cornishteddyboy Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fixtures for Saturday 30th March 2019 Carharrack P-P Hayle Lizard Argyle 0-3 Pendeen Rovers (Sean Sweeny, Josh Findlay, Silas Sullivan) Att - 30Penryn Athletic (Ryan Reeve 2) 2-2 Illogan RBL (Ashley Smeeth, Sam Emery) Att - 52 Perranwell (Phil Rees) 1-2 Perranporth (Justin Searle, Jowan Kitchener) Att - 42 St Ives Town (Sam Twyford) 1-1 Falmouth Town Reserves (Harry McMellon) Att - 40 St Just (Ashley Ellis) 1-10 Helston Athletic Reserves (Oliver Christmas 3, Joe Wright 2, Steve Jenkin, Faser Paterson, Dan Stidwell, Jowan Shainberg) Att - 25 Wendron United Reserves P-P Porthleven Reserves Supplementary Cup Quarter Final RNAS Culdrose (Dan Quirk 2) 2-4 (aet) Redruth United (Andy bishop 2, Louis Matthews 2) Att - 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Wendron v Porthleven Postponed. Porthleven unable to raise a side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Postponed or walkover Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Fancy carharrack today stronger sulquad today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: Wendron v Porthleven Postponed. Porthleven unable to raise a side. That is such a lame excuse. I bet if deducting points and moving the League Cup final to another ground they'd find players. They are a senior club for God's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Whistle Blower said: That is such a lame excuse. I bet if deducting points and moving the League Cup final to another ground they'd find players. They are a senior club for God's sake. They only had 8 players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: They only had 8 players available. Enough to play the game then! Dave Bartlam, WendronOfficial and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 No show by carharrack got to their ground told game off , by old boy locking the gates , not good no apology 😡 so we t to watch St.ives instead at least a football fix 6 hours ago, cornishlegend said: Fancy carharrack today stronger sulquad today! No squad at all so your prediction was wrong, wouldn't buy a lottery ticket lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevieb said: No show by carharrack got to their ground told game off , by old boy locking the gates , not good no apology 😡 so we t to watch St.ives instead at least a football fix No squad at all so your prediction was wrong, wouldn't buy a lottery ticket lol Would this be a failure to raise a side or refusal to play do you think? Both have different outcomes 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potch Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 When you get a phone call at 1245 asking if we could play 10 v 10 as we want to give you a competitive game. You decide which outcome? DRichards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Culdrose 2 Redruth United 4 aet. 1st 30 minutes were awful both teams bitching and moaning. Redruth to the lead from a mix up in defence Andy bishop chipped in from outside the box. Culdrose equalised in the second half from a well worked move. Culdrose scored in for st period of extra time from a clearance off a set piece with a screamer of a shot. We equalised with a great free kick from lious Matthews outside the box. Second period of extra time game changed on a penalty which Louis dispatched then after some great work in midfield he put through Andy bishop to settle the tie stevieb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, potch said: When you get a phone call at 1245 asking if we could play 10 v 10 as we want to give you a competitive game. You decide which outcome? Crikey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Redruth was 4-2 after extra time about 20 watching Andy bishop 2 Louis Matthews 2 for Redruth Dan quirk 2 for culdrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Trust Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Gutted about Carharrack's plight! Got to the ground, having not consulted this forum before I left, confronted by the shut gate and fixture board optimistically announcing next Saturday at home to Lizard! Nipped over to St Day, 2 games on, Reserves v Mousehole Reserves (1 - 1 and a point saved at the death by Saints' 'keeper making a worldy off a fairly short-range and even then deflected shot - a magnificent one-handed save). Mouse did seem to have had the better of the 2nd half chances. 3rds lost 5 - 3, cup game, don't know the details. Great crack, chatting with some Former Pupils on the balcony. Not really the right forum but I'd set out expecting a Combo game! Wonderful atmosphere at St day, a real Club spirit with officials and some 1st XI players supporting their club's other 2 mens' teams Enviable set-up. Mark Leah, Scoffy and Alan Williams 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterix Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 What does this mean for Caharrack? Game over? Fold? Ask for immediate and effective relegation to re group!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tom Trust said: Gutted about Carharrack's plight! Got to the ground, having not consulted this forum before I left, confronted by the shut gate and fixture board optimistically announcing next Saturday at home to Lizard! Nipped over to St Day, 2 games on, Reserves v Mousehole Reserves (1 - 1 and a point saved at the death by Saints' 'keeper making a worldy off a fairly short-range and even then deflected shot - a magnificent one-handed save). Mouse did seem to have had the better of the 2nd half chances. 3rds lost 5 - 3, cup game, don't know the details. Great crack, chatting with some Former Pupils on the balcony. Not really the right forum but I'd set out expecting a Combo game! Wonderful atmosphere at St day, a real Club spirit with officials and some 1st XI players supporting their club's other 2 mens' teams Enviable set-up. Nothing was posted on this forum about Carharrack unable to raise a side until an hour ago (6 pm ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Williams Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Nothing was posted on this forum about Carharrack unable to raise a side until an hour ago (6 pm ) And? 1 hour ago, Tom Trust said: Gutted about Carharrack's plight! Got to the ground, having not consulted this forum before I left, confronted by the shut gate and fixture board optimistically announcing next Saturday at home to Lizard! Nipped over to St Day, 2 games on, Reserves v Mousehole Reserves (1 - 1 and a point saved at the death by Saints' 'keeper making a worldy off a fairly short-range and even then deflected shot - a magnificent one-handed save). Mouse did seem to have had the better of the 2nd half chances. 3rds lost 5 - 3, cup game, don't know the details. Great crack, chatting with some Former Pupils on the balcony. Not really the right forum but I'd set out expecting a Combo game! Wonderful atmosphere at St day, a real Club spirit with officials and some 1st XI players supporting their club's other 2 mens' teams Enviable set-up. Great family club from top to bottom, here is some of the family from this afternoon.😉 MattP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 I guessed as tms never had a game they would have a decent side out. This isnt good for the bank balance heavy fines. Could this be the end of carharrack now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marks Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, willy7 said: And? Great family club from top to bottom, here is some of the family from this afternoon.😉 Very well run club unlike the one down the road . 😏. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Trust Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 What an impressive display! But why comment on the club down the road when it is beset with problems that just happened with no fault to the club. Clubs of all kinds need 1) sufficient people with time and ability to run the thing, including raisin funds and 2) a committed manager and enough players to stage their matches. These two elements ebb and flow during the lifetime of many clubs. Factors such as whether or not a particular neighbourhood contains the right people to run the club in question vary with time. As I put in my original post, St Day's current situation is enviable and likely to attract even more helpers and players. A club down on its luck needs understanding and the passing of time to maybe see a reversal of its fortunes. Brianmooreshead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Tom any club worth it’s salt has to have a group of people off the field to run the club. I think that the demise of carharrack is that for a long time they have had that group but as they have grown older they have not been replaced by younger blood and that I am afraid is happening in a lot of places not just football. Until you build that club ethos amongst a group of people clubs will struggle. And as you alluded to it’s easy for a club doing well to get these volunteers but the secret is keeping them when the success drys up and it will for all clubs. TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 How pathetic this league has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Williams Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 I agree with you Pat, Most club's have got people on there committee how has been with the club for decades but you need young blood to keep it going for the future. St.Day do have a lot of people that help but that's because it's a big club with lot's of kids so you get lots of parents wanting to help, success doesn't have to come with winning anything it's just the way the club is run is the secret to it's success and that well keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 I said a few years ago that Carharrack would be a junior club by 2018/19! So I’m a little out. But you could see it coming a mile off i hope they get themselves sorted out to be a junior club so they continue to provide football for the local community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Williams Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Tom Trust said: What an impressive display! But why comment on the club down the road when it is beset with problems that just happened with no fault to the club. Clubs of all kinds need 1) sufficient people with time and ability to run the thing, including raisin funds and 2) a committed manager and enough players to stage their matches. These two elements ebb and flow during the lifetime of many clubs. Factors such as whether or not a particular neighbourhood contains the right people to run the club in question vary with time. As I put in my original post, St Day's current situation is enviable and likely to attract even more helpers and players. A club down on its luck needs understanding and the passing of time to maybe see a reversal of its fortunes. Nobody like seeing a club struggle to put a team out Tom but Carharrack as a committee have to shoulder some of the blame, they choose their management and wanted instant success at any cost, they got a manager who would bring that to the club but everyone knew one day he would move on with the whole team so as a committee they needed to have a plan B. St.day have had the same thing happen and so has lot's of club's but if it structure is good then plan B will come into affect. Stop any new club's entering the league this season in and around the area so player's who are on the move all the time haven't got so many options. Carharrack/Stithians/Storm and any other club local can rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Four bits of info needed please. Head counts for Lizard and St Just, scorers for Pendeen and St Just. Cheers. Sorry but a couple of the overnight scores were wrong but full-time had them wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 I agree with Keith and others regarding the disappearance of the volunteer culture. I blame a lot on the overarching political structure which has ceded such control to a group of ruthless capitalist vulgarians like Murdoch, whose oligarchic power has taken sport away from the people. The other Bulgarians running top sport gave gleefully cashed in . they do not care about how their actions affect Carharrack or you and me. In Cornwall there is a second potent influence: the intrinsic refusal of old farts to concede power invtge interests of the young. This is why so many selfish old contemporaries of mine backed Brexit. It is why no club representatives gave the guts to "take back control" of the Combination League from Roberts and Vidal, though all know perfectly well the mentslity and interests they represent. As a result, the league us nowvdying, beginning with the gangrenous creep in its extremities symbolised by the demise of Carharrack, West Cornwall and Vidal James Reserves. For those of you who remember mycquestionibg of them on past decades, who say on your hands when you should have supported me, given your encouragement and agreement invyhe bar, don't say youcwere notcwarned of what would eventually come to pass ! We need note than one revolution in this country. Come on, people, you need to drive the change ! Apologies tovsny Bulgarian colleagues ! Typo ! I meant Vulgarians ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterix Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Afraid to say, but all Local football maybe even sport is on the demise! Such a saddened conclusion, but not many clubs have stalwarts like the old days, and unfortunately not many, upcoming younger generation willing or having the time, to put in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 My simple solution is to close your clubs, mothball it until suitable incumbents step up to the plate. Just go home and put your feet up sounds nice to me. This suggestion raised a few eyebrows when I muttered it recently...but has solicited a few young un's putting a bit of effort in off the field! Asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre 66 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Pendeen goal scorers S Sullivan, S Sweeney and J Finley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Nice to see Sean knocking them in. Must be down to astrological configuration. The only player I ever signed at St Just who shares my birthday ! What an honour !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Isaac, I love reading your rants but I feel you were so eager to get your point across that your first post is hard to read. Like mentslity I presume was supposed to read mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andys Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Perranwell 1 Perranporth 2 - The Well picked up where they left off last week, very poor for the first half and deservedly went in 2-0 down at the break. Bit more heart in the second half, looked like we might have forced one over the line but it wasn't given even though it was hooked clear off the back of the post according to those closest to it. Towering header from Phil Rees from a corner to make it 2-1, the Well had further chances to equalise but couldn't take them, our finishing needs to improve. Well played Perranporth, good luck for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, willy7 said: Nobody like seeing a club struggle to put a team out Tom but Carharrack as a committee have to shoulder some of the blame, they choose their management and wanted instant success at any cost, they got a manager who would bring that to the club but everyone knew one day he would move on with the whole team so as a committee they needed to have a plan B. St.day have had the same thing happen and so has lot's of club's but if it structure is good then plan B will come into affect. Stop any new club's entering the league this season in and around the area so player's who are on the move all the time haven't got so many options. Carharrack/Stithians/Storm and any other club local can rebuild. A lot of the problem is that Carharrack is so close to St Day and the local people cannot sustain two clubs in close proximity, especially with them surrounded by established set-ups. Pulling in "strangers to the village" to manage is always a huge risk because they have no real affinity and ultimately it is the club who suffers when they walk away having been noticed by a so-called bigger club who are promised nearly a complete team to follow this heralded manager and a moderate amount of success which again will be short term. People who run clubs should look deeper into the pedigree of these managers - you look around and think - what have they really done in the past to warrant the managers job? Perhaps just promising the earth isn't sufficient qualification for becoming the manager. Asterix, Reesy, Brianmooreshead and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Carharrack and St Day managed to sustain successful teams for years before this season. Even when Carharrack used to sweep all before them in the Mining League days with Johnny Webster and the like. Look at Foxhole, Nanpean and St Dennis. At one time three Senior clubs in close proximity before all went in different directions. I appreciate times are changing and maybe the Combination League was a step too far and too quick. St Day had a few difficult seasons at first if I remember right. Success needs to be built towards rather than instant. Consolidate and build a base for the future. Reform the reserves with young players and a sprinkling of older heads (if both can be found) and bring them back to Ting Tang rather than Clijah. Have the teams working together as one rather than 'them and us'. Easier said than done maybe and success might elude the club for a few years but build a base and the club can grow. Dave Bartlam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Williams Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, le boss said: A lot of the problem is that Carharrack is so close to St Day and the local people cannot sustain two clubs in close proximity, especially with them surrounded by established set-ups. Pulling in "strangers to the village" to manage is always a huge risk because they have no real affinity and ultimately it is the club who suffers when they walk away having been noticed by a so-called bigger club who are promised nearly a complete team to follow this heralded manager and a moderate amount of success which again will be short term. People who run clubs should look deeper into the pedigree of these managers - you look around and think - what have they really done in the past to warrant the managers job? Perhaps just promising the earth isn't sufficient qualification for becoming the manager. Nothing to do with how close they, but agree with the getting the right manager when they aren't local or have no connection to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, willy7 said: Nothing to do with how close they, but agree with the getting the right manager when they aren't local or have no connection to the club. My point is that there are only a certain amount of youngsters living in these villages to bring thru their youth teams. Perhaps Carharrack should look at their youth policy because that is where funding comes from and helps with sustaining the club. There are many clubs who's blueprint could be used as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, le boss said: A lot of the problem is that Carharrack is so close to St Day and the local people cannot sustain two clubs in close proximity, especially with them surrounded by established set-ups. Pulling in "strangers to the village" to manage is always a huge risk because they have no real affinity and ultimately it is the club who suffers when they walk away having been noticed by a so-called bigger club who are promised nearly a complete team to follow this heralded manager and a moderate amount of success which again will be short term. People who run clubs should look deeper into the pedigree of these managers - you look around and think - what have they really done in the past to warrant the managers job? Perhaps just promising the earth isn't sufficient qualification for becoming the manager. Or just bringing money to a so called big club club is not good either...who knows? But. It is the way of the football world today...and so it will continue. Football is all about now...the future is a long way away maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Agree with you Willy 7 but it is a lot easier if you are nearer the top and competitive than being on the bare bones and struggling to get people on board and stay there. It has taken us nearly 3 seasons but are slowly turning the corner both on field and especially ofit Alan Williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Or just bringing money to a so called big club club is not good either...who knows? But. It is the way of the football world today...and so it will continue. Football is all about now...the future is a long way away maybe? Totally disagree that football is all about now - that short-sighted view is why so many clubs/teams struggle. Its all about sustainability surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, le boss said: Totally disagree that football is all about now - that short-sighted view is why so many clubs/teams struggle. Its all about sustainability surely. I'm afraid to say that football today is all about now, just look at the turnover of managers and players seeking instant success. The diehards pick up the pieces if they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: I'm afraid to say that football today is all about now, just look at the turnover of managers and players seeking instant success. The diehards pick up the pieces if they can. Then its down to the people who run the clubs, not the teams, to break the cycle. Too many clubhouses or pubs are empty after the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, le boss said: Then its down to the people who run the clubs, not the teams, to break the cycle. Too many clubhouses or pubs are empty after the game Because club life has changed dynamics. Now it is I have other places to go and things to do. Cant see it changing in the near future either, just have to ride the wave of apathy. Use it or lose it, and a few have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectator92 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Could Carharrack blame previous management ? Leaving because they couldn’t get what they needed at the club to progress ? Then majority of the players leaving to go to a new club where they have the facilities which they required ? CornishFan95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Trust Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just wasted 5 minutes trying to PM Isaac Rosenburg only to find that he "doesn't accept messages". Alan Williams and Asterix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, le boss said: Then its down to the people who run the clubs, not the teams, to break the cycle. Too many clubhouses or pubs are empty after the game What you need is to transform your clubhouse/bar into a football nightclub; with loud D.J.’s and lots of shots, that would get the youngsters in, although whether you can transform them into footballers is another matter. Just don’t expect them to play Sunday League! 🎼🎸💿🥃⚽️🤕❗️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Bruegel the Elder said: What you need is to transform your clubhouse/bar into a football nightclub; with loud D.J.’s and lots of shots, that would get the youngsters in, although whether you can transform them into footballers is another matter. Just don’t expect them to play Sunday League! 🎼🎸💿🥃⚽️🤕❗️ And I bet the local police would really agree with that...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Sorry it says I don't accept messages. Tom. I am glad to. I don't always work the new technology too well. You can always get me by e mail acaset john.beer@newcollege.ac.uk Asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David187 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Combination league is of abismal standard, I have followed numerous games this season so am well equipped to state this, lots of games I’ve witnessed have had hardly any spectators and the football has been really poor standard, seems lots of clubs in trouble on and off the field which is a shame, my advice to the young man I was chatting too on Saturday down west would be too force the changes before you have no Club left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 31/03/2019 at 17:20, Spectator92 said: Could Carharrack blame previous management ? Leaving because they couldn’t get what they needed at the club to progress ? Then majority of the players leaving to go to a new club where they have the facilities which they required ? What was it they needed to progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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