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TOOLSTATION WESTERN LEAGUE

Ashton & Backwell United     4-2       Bridgwater United

Welton Rovers                         2-0        Street

 

LES PHILLIPS CUP

Buckland Athletic                   2-0       Mousehole

Saltash United                        5-2        Torpoint Athletic

Shepton Mallet                        1-0       Wells City

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  • Dave Deacon changed the title to RESULTS - Tuesday 31 January 2023

Our Cornish clubs involved in the cup tonight with one eye on the league fixture at Ashton no doubt! Bridgwater losing certainly a good result for Saltash and Mousehole.

Almost a double success for the Ashes on the night and although the Seagulls are out of the cup now, they are certainly well positioned in the league title race.

    P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Saltash United 24 16 5 3 59 28 31 53
2 Bridgwater United 22 15 4 3 61 23 38 49
3 Mousehole 21 14 6 1 53 21 32 48
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Mousehole had a good go tonight but nothing could stop the Buckland attitude and spirit especially in the second half.. whatever they tried in front of goal was snuffed out by Buckland defenders or the Goalkeeper.

Disappointed to see a lot of play acting from mousehole players throughout and surrounding the referee on every contentious decision.

lots of talent on offer there tonight for both teams and although both teams had players missing they managed to produce an entertaining end to end game

2-0 and a missed penalty tells the story really and Buckland will be happy with that after the Vase disappointment at the weekend.

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13 hours ago, Dave Deacon said:

Our Cornish clubs involved in the cup tonight with one eye on the league fixture at Ashton no doubt! Bridgwater losing certainly a good result for Saltash and Mousehole.

Almost a double success for the Ashes on the night and although the Seagulls are out of the cup now, they are certainly well positioned in the league title race.

    P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Saltash United 24 16 5 3 59 28 31 53
2 Bridgwater United 22 15 4 3 61 23 38 49
3 Mousehole 21 14 6 1 53 21 32 48

Bubbling up very nicely at the top of the table.

Regarding Mousehole. Is the Joshua Bissett who appeared for them last night, the same player who was at Hartpury College and has turned out for Exmouth Town this season?

31 minutes ago, middle mans mate said:

Hearing that both Saltash and Torpoint played ineligible players last night.....

For players to be eligible, do they have to be signed on before the date of the original postponed tie? 

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1 hour ago, middle mans mate said:

Hearing that both Saltash and Torpoint played ineligible players last night.....

If that is correct, will there be a replay or will they both get kicked out? Could be a bye into the next round for whoever is due to play them!

1 hour ago, Way Of The Park said:

Bubbling up very nicely at the top of the table.

Regarding Mousehole. Is the Joshua Bissett who appeared for them last night, the same player who was at Hartpury College and has turned out for Exmouth Town this season?

For players to be eligible, do they have to be signed on before the date of the original postponed tie? 

Let's hope for Mouseholes sake that Josh Bisset was signed in time also!

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If more local (Devon/Cornwall) sides are promoted to the Southern League and beyond at the end of the season, where will the clubs find players of a suitable standard to be able to compete?

Will they have to play at slightly lower skill levels than teams from more populated areas.

Also they will have to throw more money into the pot to attract these lower skilled players having a knock on effect at SWPL level with the SWPL clubs then having to spend more on lower standard players, and so on down the pyramid. 

How many of us hear the phrase "The Combo or ECPL is nothing like it used to be because of the FA meddling to form the St Piran" over a season? 

They will be saying about the SWPL over the next few years due to the FA tinkering with the Southern and Western. 

Only being able to sign for one club up and down the ranks will also be the death knell for some sides from lower level leagues who rely on these players from the Western/SWPL/St Piran to keep their sides afloat when they have no game. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said:

How many of us hear the phrase "The Combo or ECPL is nothing like it used to be because of the FA meddling to form the St Piran" over a season? 

I don't completely agree with this old chestnut as didn't both the ECPL and Combo have the chance to take on the Step 7 concept themselves?

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26 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said:

If more local (Devon/Cornwall) sides are promoted to the Southern League and beyond at the end of the season, where will the clubs find players of a suitable standard to be able to compete?

Will they have to play at slightly lower skill levels than teams from more populated areas.

Also they will have to throw more money into the pot to attract these lower skilled players having a knock on effect at SWPL level with the SWPL clubs then having to spend more on lower standard players, and so on down the pyramid. 

How many of us hear the phrase "The Combo or ECPL is nothing like it used to be because of the FA meddling to form the St Piran" over a season? 

They will be saying about the SWPL over the next few years due to the FA tinkering with the Southern and Western. 

Only being able to sign for one club up and down the ranks will also be the death knell for some sides from lower level leagues who rely on these players from the Western/SWPL/St Piran to keep their sides afloat when they have no game. 

 

 

So you’re worried about declining standards at step 6 and 7 because so many clubs in the region now have a chance to play at a higher level? One that also brings fa cup entry and the prize money that comes with it!! Please tell me that this a parody account 😂

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13 hours ago, rocky170267 said:.

Disappointed to see a lot of play acting from mousehole players throughout and surrounding the referee on every contentious decision.

 

Let’s be honest Buckland have Rob farkins playing for them. So I’m sure Buckland are used to seeing that every Saturday afternoon 

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4 hours ago, Dave Deacon said:

I don't completely agree with this old chestnut as didn't both the ECPL and Combo have the chance to take on the Step 7 concept themselves?

Correct Dave. Seems to be forgotten when clubs moan about the current setup, which admittedly was forced by the FA. Doesn’t bode well for the Step 7 and below reorganisation. I’ve heard that 1 of the 5 leagues has no one willing to be considered. 

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24 minutes ago, bighairydave said:

Is that so in this league? I can’t find this in the rules?

Taken from Les Phillips Challenge Cup Competition Rules .. available on Toolstation league website

12. PROVISIONS CONCERNING PLAYERS

(e) All players must have been eligible to play in the original tie in order to play in a replayed or postponed match;

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7 minutes ago, Toroloco13 said:

Taken from Les Phillips Challenge Cup Competition Rules .. available on Toolstation league website

12. PROVISIONS CONCERNING PLAYERS

(e) All players must have been eligible to play in the original tie in order to play in a replayed or postponed match;

Thank you.

 

The league rules on the website I find are dated, with no 21/22 league rules and the Les Phillips Cup rules being from 2018.

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1 minute ago, bighairydave said:

Not helpful for those without a handbook though is it? And the 21/22 rules on the website only state league rules and have no mention of the cup.

I can be blamed personally for lots of things but (thankfully) I’m not responsible for the Western League’s website content. 

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Les Philips Cup Rules readily available to view on Toolstation Western League web-site. 

http://toolstationleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Les-Phillips-Cup-Rules.pdf

Rule 12 (e) is the one that is being talked about here I believe. 

My understand is 'eligible' in such a case would be registered for the respective team. 

Same rule also mentions circumstances surrounding suspensions

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1 hour ago, Blues Chairman said:

Les Philips Cup Rules readily available to view on Toolstation Western League web-site. 

http://toolstationleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Les-Phillips-Cup-Rules.pdf

Rule 12 (e) is the one that is being talked about here I believe. 

My understand is 'eligible' in such a case would be registered for the respective team. 

Same rule also mentions circumstances surrounding suspensions

Dated 2018 though.

 

Thank you @Toroloco13 for highlighting this year’s handbook online with fully updated rules.

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15 hours ago, Blues Chairman said:

Les Philips Cup Rules readily available to view on Toolstation Western League web-site. 

http://toolstationleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Les-Phillips-Cup-Rules.pdf

Rule 12 (e) is the one that is being talked about here I believe. 

My understand is 'eligible' in such a case would be registered for the respective team. 

Same rule also mentions circumstances surrounding suspensions

Who'd be a football club secretary.

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On 31/01/2023 at 22:44, rocky170267 said:

Mousehole had a good go tonight but nothing could stop the Buckland attitude and spirit especially in the second half.. whatever they tried in front of goal was snuffed out by Buckland defenders or the Goalkeeper.

Disappointed to see a lot of play acting from mousehole players throughout and surrounding the referee on every contentious decision.

lots of talent on offer there tonight for both teams and although both teams had players missing they managed to produce an entertaining end to end game

2-0 and a missed penalty tells the story really and Buckland will be happy with that after the Vase disappointment at the weekend.

Perhaps Mousehole forgot to plug in their fancy ABS vests lol. Considering as a club they haven't ever won anything its surprising. They got a lot of catching up to do in regards to titles and cups. UTT ;) 

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1 hour ago, Jeff Chambers said:

Perhaps Mousehole forgot to plug in their fancy ABS vests lol. Considering as a club they haven't ever won anything its surprising. They got a lot of catching up to do in regards to titles and cups. UTT ;) 

Mousehole is a tiny village, Falmouth is a big town, took you ages to get in their league and they are still ahead of you in the table 🙂

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On 30/01/2023 at 22:49, Dave Deacon said:

TOOLSTATION WESTERN LEAGUE

Ashton & Backwell United     4-2       Bridgwater United

Welton Rovers                         2-0        Street

 

LES PHILLIPS CUP

Buckland Athletic                   2-0       Mousehole

Saltash United                        5-2        Torpoint Athletic

Shepton Mallet                        1-0       Wells City

Saltash won't be taking any further part in the cup this season 🤦

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5 hours ago, sportsman10 said:

What going on with all these teams being chucked out of cups ?  Are clubs this stupid they don’t understand the rules of players being signed 
Honestly I’ve seen better run Sunday league clubs. 
it embarrassing and no excuse for it 

Most people don’t realise how important a football secretary is. 
Worth their weight in gold. 
 

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3 hours ago, shots said:

Most people don’t realise how important a football secretary is. 
Worth their weight in gold. 
 

And it’s all voluntary, we do it, cos we love it, well most of the time! Us secretaries give a lot of free time and energy to help run a club and don’t deserve a bad time when bad things happen!

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1 hour ago, GaryHocking said:

And it would be a tough enough job if the rules around the likes of eligibility, suspensions, etc., were clear, unambiguous and consistent. Anyone not familiar with the role of Club Secretary like to hazard a guess as to just how clear, unambiguous and consistent those rules actually are? 

Honestly?

It’s like completing a 3d sudoku. Blindfolded. 
 

 

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On 03/02/2023 at 18:49, Tavi Fan said:

Who has the bigger budget?

 

On 03/02/2023 at 18:49, Tavi Fan said:

Who has the bigger budget?

Got to be Mousehole Tavi Fan. Their players budget plus their expensive GPS vests that measure heart rate etc are a massive pull for some players ;) . At Falmouth we attract young players that want to play at the iconic Bickland park in front of the biggest and best fan base in the West, the chance to pull on that black & amber shirt and play for Cornwalls most famous and successful football club. Mousehole will probably go up this season and if they go up as champions they can at least say they have actually won something and considering their financial outlay its about time.

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