pastyman Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I have edited my topic, as in no way do I wish to embarrass any individual for having a "bad day at the office". But I am sure I speak for the majority who love the game of football. If foul and abusive language or obscene gestures are to be punished in football, please, lets have some consistency by officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom potts Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Very true pastyman I am sure the referee assessor will sort that out my concern was the ivybridge coach and dug out swearing at the officials holding the game up when the first player was sent off and conducting very bad language in front of very young children and a lady watching from behind the dug out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middle mans mate Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Always been the same, boasts about how many he's booked/ sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 what were the cards fo? Most of them for dissent i expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom potts Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 He was very poor for both sides the players where fairly good considering he did not cut out the very bad language mainly from the away team dug out I suppose all will say needs to be cut out at the top of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Windmill On The Shirt Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 It's about time a referee stood up to the big teams and stop being intimidated by them, well done to Shaun for being the bigger man and sorting them out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Can we please make note that it was in fact the Saltash joint manager who was sent off and no one from the Ivybridge dug out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefferson hog Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Take a bow Sean edge finally a referee who will stand up to these overpaid players the peninsula premier is a disgrace the language the players use is beyond a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticker Forever Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Sounds like the game had an "Edge" to it!!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Let's hope Mr.Edge soon gets appointed to Bodmin and sorts Gilbert out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Windmill On The Shirt Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Not again lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, number9 said: Can we please make note that it was in fact the Saltash joint manager who was sent off and no one from the Ivybridge dug out. That is a very valid point number9. In view of the language of one Nicky Marker, there lies the inconsistency of Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornishGroundHopper Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Was at the game today thought the referee had an excellent game and controled the game amazingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What's the mata Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I was at the Saltash game today and the referee definitely stole the show! I was expecting a comfortable Saltash victory however I thought ivybridges young side were fantastic and must have left the ground feeling totally hard done by. Even down to ten men ivybridge looked by far the better side and the sending off of ivybridges left back was very harsh and by all accounts was dictated by the linesman and not the referee. An ill tempered second half was unfortunately created by the referee who abused his position of authority to totally dictate the outcome of this game. With ivybridge down to 9 and two penalties awarded against them, he then turned on Saltash with a sending off of both a player and manager, and then another player!!! 9v9 for the last 10 minutes, I feel for all the players involved for a well contested game to be ruined by the ref!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Windmill On The Shirt Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, What's the mata said: I was at the Saltash game today and the referee definitely stole the show! I was expecting a comfortable Saltash victory however I thought ivybridges young side were fantastic and must have left the ground feeling totally hard done by. Even down to ten men ivybridge looked by far the better side and the sending off of ivybridges left back was very harsh and by all accounts was dictated by the linesman and not the referee. An ill tempered second half was unfortunately created by the referee who abused his position of authority to totally dictate the outcome of this game. With ivybridge down to 9 and two penalties awarded against them, he then turned on Saltash with a sending off of both a player and manager, and then another player!!! 9v9 for the last 10 minutes, I feel for all the players involved for a well contested game to be ruined by the ref!! Ruined by the ref, you are having a laugh. All red cards are justified , after getting reports from the game from very good sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What's the mata Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, The Windmill On The Shirt said: Ruined by the ref, you are having a laugh. All red cards are justified , after getting reports from the game from very good sources So you weren't there... Bold statements for someone who wasn't at the match. Both Saltash and Ivybridge supporters were baffled by the decisions made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer fan Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 I was a spector at this game and i thought boh sides disipline was shocking. As for Mr Edge I thought the 4 red cards were right. 1. Ivybrigde number 3 a 2 footed challenge just below the knees. I know he took long but he didnt see it thr lino did they were making sure they got the right guy. 2. Ivybridge number 10 had serveral warninings for dissent and then a yellow. Seccond yellow was for when a corner came over he shoved the saltash number 3 to the ground and a penalry awarded. 3. Saltash number 3 best decribed as a kung foo kick on the ivybrige player trying to head the ball from a goal kick. 4. Saltash number 10 shouted over to the assistant as he was flagged offside and was warned by the referee to stop he carried on. Seccond yellow saltash scored there fourth and he stuck his fingers up to the keeper and crowd. Now please tell me if those are not red cards. The 4 yellows i believe were all for back chat and dissent afelter captains were warned. So i thaugh as a nutuaral spectator mr edge had it spot on Oh i forgot that dane bunmy got told to leave the dug out for telling the lino to **** off. Please can you.on her tell me how mr edge got thesee wrong. Its the players and staff need to look at theirselfs as the officials done the right things. There needs to be more officials like these guys who do not take the abuse and dish out the correct punishements. Well done to the officials!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticker Forever Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Sounds like the ref tipped a few people over the "Edge" ? Was that a joke Digger? Throw your whistle over the "Edge" Decent game 4-3 tho, sounds like Saltash just "Edged' it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Interesting how this thread has turned around and the referee is now the hero of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 It appears the "neutral's" view has swung the argument. After the many comments on here re managers' bad behaviour, perhaps the SWPL could be the start of the long overdue revolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted September 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 The game is all about opinions and that is what makes it interesting. Is it not time for football to move ahead and record what the referee says and what is said to him? What frustrates managers, players and supporters is inconsistency. If players and managers were warned that foul and abusive language would be dealt with by a straight red card, every time, surely it could be stamped out in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Pastyman, I am pretty sure you know that Foul and Abuse language is a red card, so if players and managers use it then the red card is the risk they take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, B Manning said: Pastyman, I am pretty sure you know that Foul and Abuse language is a red card, so if players and managers use it then the red card is the risk they take. I think it's known, but not always applied! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkknight Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Pastyman we all know your a saltash supporter and by your knowledge of refereeing and football did both at a high level but I suggest if your not happy with the referee then then may be you go out s ref a game so we can all see how it is supposed to be done . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted September 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Darkknight said: Pastyman we all know your a saltash supporter and by your knowledge of refereeing and football did both at a high level but I suggest if your not happy with the referee then then may be you go out s ref a game so we can all see how it is supposed to be done . Cheeky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsense Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Pastyman I think Darkknight wasn't being cheeky , I think in a nice way he was saying , don't criticise referees if you ain't up to doing it yourself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilver Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Think the criticism arises due to inconsistency between officials and even the same official from game to game. I'm sure as football spectators we all want to see dissent/bad language out of the game from managers/players/supporters. Frustration arises when on another thread on this forum allegedly the Bodmin bench constantly used foul and abusive language towards the ref, and nothing happens. Then at today's game there is cards and sendings from the dugout! why just today's game? Will all referees now follow suit or is this just a one man/referee crusade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 hours ago, quiksilver said: Think the criticism arises due to inconsistency between officials and even the same official from game to game. I'm sure as football spectators we all want to see dissent/bad language out of the game from managers/players/supporters. Frustration arises when on another thread on this forum allegedly the Bodmin bench constantly used foul and abusive language towards the ref, and nothing happens. Then at today's game there is cards and sendings from the dugout! why just today's game? Will all referees now follow suit or is this just a one man/referee crusade? I really do hope other referees will follow where Shaun has led. Now someone has had the balls to take a stand against foul and abusive language maybe the floodgates will open. It would be nice to see families with young children coming through the gates again. Could Mr. Edge be cloned and sent round to all the grounds? And yes, starting with Bodmin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockey jackson Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Who was sent off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretscout Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 it would be interesting to see a card count for all refs so far this season and what the cards were for...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Waters Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 40 minutes ago, secretscout said: it would be interesting to see a card count for all refs so far this season and what the cards were for...... I have been saying that for a number of years but the leagues, for some reason, do not want to do it. Even though it is done at higher football levels and listed in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Good on Edge for sending players off for foul and abusive language. At the end of the day if he or his officiating team didn't show there wouldn't have been a game. I believe he was the same ref who sent off the Stoke Gabriel keeper against Parkway for call him a C--- Also, delighted to see Dane got sent off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 9/10/2017 at 13:39, B Manning said: Pastyman, I am pretty sure you know that Foul and Abuse language is a red card, so if players and managers use it then the red card is the risk they take. Should the example not be led from the EPL refs, week in week out you see it and whats done about it......... NOTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmanaldo Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Unfortunately it's the junior sides that suffer when senior sides abuse referees, they always get a referee so it doesn't matter if they drive officials away from the game. I wasn't there but it seems to me that the referee just applied the laws of the game. Well done to him for standing up to the players. A referee can't win sometimes, for example Mane's sending off on Saturday, people can't agree now if the referee was correct (I personally think Mane was unlucky but it was a red card). I don't think abusing a referee on a public forum is the correct way to deal with people's frustrations either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Repeated action replays and "cross examination" by so-called experts on TV plays a big part in players/managers/supporters believing they also have the right to question any decisions they don't agree with. Somehow, we've got to revert to the situation where everybody accepts the old saying "the referee is always right" - which is re-inforced by the Laws of the Game - and get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Lloyd Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 hours ago, gingerninja said: Good on Edge for sending players off for foul and abusive language. At the end of the day if he or his officiating team didn't show there wouldn't have been a game. I believe he was the same ref who sent off the Stoke Gabriel keeper against Parkway for call him a C--- Also, delighted to see Dane got sent off It was a different referee who sent the Stoke Gabriel keeper off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, Tractor Boy said: It was a different referee who sent the Stoke Gabriel keeper off. 5 hours ago, gingerninja said: Good on Edge for sending players off for foul and abusive language. At the end of the day if he or his officiating team didn't show there wouldn't have been a game. I believe he was the same ref who sent off the Stoke Gabriel keeper against Parkway for call him a C--- Also, delighted to see Dane got sent off Believe it was Jack Borlase, the Man Giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Poor guy, give him a break. Without guys like him willing to ref we would have no games at all. He will be always be welcome at the Priory Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, leedsunited said: Poor guy, give him a break. Without guys like him willing to ref we would have no games at all. He will be always be welcome at the Priory Park Best make sure he brings a spare pencil and an extra notebook then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olimar Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 09/09/2017 at 21:40, number9 said: Can we please make note that it was in fact the Saltash joint manager who was sent off and no one from the Ivybridge dug out. At least he didn't embarrass himself further by going on social media and complaining about the officials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motherwontletmegoargyle Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Saltash do not have joint managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 hours ago, bighairydave said: Believe it was Jack Borlase, the Man Giant. Ah fair enough. I remember he Edge refereed Parkway this season and he had a fairly decent game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetty Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 I was at the game on Saturday and after reading this felt the need to sign up and comment. To many people who were not at the game are forming opinions as if it was fact. The referee made a rod for his own back by not dealing with the away team dugout early in the game. This then led to his very inconsistent performance, just when the ivybridge manager had calmed down after a 10 minute rant which consisted of some serious abuse towards the linesman on that side and the man in the middle, the referee booked ryan richards for dissent, In normal circumstances I think the referee should be praised for this course of action, richards probably deserved it but what about the non stop abuse the officials had just endured for the previous 10 minutes. This is the kind of inconsistency that led the referee down a very dark and Lonely road on Saturday afternoon. The first red card of the afternoon he forgot which number shirt he should show the red card too. It took another 5 minutes to figure that one out, the first half was 55 minutes long!!! No one has mentioned the two very soft penalties he awarded saltash which led to one of the red cards. By this point he had totally lost his head. People on here praising him for sticking up to bad language and dissent should note that he took a tirade of abuse from the ivybridge dug out in the first half which went unpunished. The saltash ast manager then was complaining about the inconsistency and ironically got sent off himself. The referee allowed all of the ivybridge dug out to stand and encroach the pitch when they didn't like something Just a very bad performance from the referee which led to players and an ast manager being needlessly suspended from what is essentially a hobby the assessor himself looked in shock and im told was in with the referee for 45 minutes after the game. While I understand that both clubs will be submitting reports I think they both need to hold their hands up and say that both sets of players could have boxed smarter knowing the kind of afternoon the referee was having. I hope the young man can learn from this because of course it's his hobby but he really needs to stamp out misterminers early. As for the match itself I think ivybridge performed brilliantly considering they played most of the game with a player and two players less. Saltash reds came late in the game, saltash need to sort out their issues at the back if they expect to win anything this year as quite frankly it was embarrassing defending at times. I watched them a lot last season and They don't seem to have the same 'fiz' about them yet this time around, having said that they are 3rd so if they get it together it could turn out ok for them. Ivybridge on the other hand are much improved on last season and will take points from the top sides. Good luck everyone. Remember it's a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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