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Home Waters

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  1. The only thing I can say is - you believe its transparent, when it is not at all. Its time some of the County FA's in the country summoned up the courage to put pressure on the Fa to the effect that a club can do absolutely nothing if unforseen trouble breaks out - yes they can have things in place if it does, but have no practical means what so ever to prevent it breaking out. I was involved once when a highly respected member of the club, never ever been in trouble with match officals or created any problems with anyone what so ever, suddenly went in to the referees room and created bedlam, the club were done for failing to control its officers, again, tell me how we could have stopped it. The only way you will stop anything at all it is to ban entry to everyone to the grounds.
  2. Tell me how - if you are unable to prevent something happening - you can be found guilty of allowing it to happen. Further no panel I have ever addressed have been able to say how a club can realistically prevent spur of the moment happenings. In your view it may be transparent but the only thing that is transparent, is the lack of any evidence or the failure of the FA to recognise the practicalities of these situations. I think we should have moved on from the 1890's
  3. The problem with all of these type of charges is that it is designed that with little or no evidence a club can be convicted. This type of accusation would never hold up in a criminal court so the the FA can get away with murder. Its a bit like trial by the ducking stool - suspected witches were ducked in the village pond - if they drowned they were innocent, but if they survived they were guilty. My defence to all this type of charge in the past was - tell me what the club could have done on the day to physically prevent this happening, when spectators decide to behave badly, there is nothing any club can do to prevent it. You can write all the advice in the programme that you want, you can have notices around the ground, stewards every few paces - still no club can prevent ten minutes of mayhem. If a club cannot actually stop it how can they be guilty of being responsible for their actions. Who actually is the ' club ' in rule 20 - it states that the club is responsible for a long list of persons, so if all those behaved badly at the same time who is left to be the club held responsible. I am afraid the FA runs 'kangaroo' courts, without justice, little or no evidence and no real look at the practicalities of the day in question.
  4. If they are included it was only Bradford, Wellington & Bridport with ground hops in Premier. - Bridport average over 100 anyway and Wellington have, so far, without the ground hops. But as you can see from your figures its about success that brings them in as well,
  5. If you look at the Tool Station Western league web site home page - scroll down and all the average attendances are given - for most of the premier those figures belie this Saturday's fixtures. I think its two over 200 and a further 8 over 100, so a bit of a blip this week.
  6. Could I just add to the list, that the 'Plymouth Parkway Supporters Club' player of the season was Rob Farkins.
  7. Thankyou Richard, could not remember their name (not near Swindon). With regard to the rest we will have to disagree - the FA have contravened all that was said by them at public meetings, by details circulated and past history of dealings with clubs.
  8. I have said all along since the first announcement of the revised pyramid system that it would soon run into disrepute, irrespective of whether or not to remain helps the club. They spoke at meetings that it would have mandatory promotion and relegation, clubs who refused promotion would be relegated. In fact a club Swindon way last season refused promotion and was relegated from step 5 to step 6, as it didn't want promotion to step 4. In the past clubs that have pulled out of step 4 have not been called voluntary relegated and the those at the bottom saved, they have been replaced by clubs who finished in second spot with the best points per game nationally. I said when it started that all a club had to do was mess around when it was mandatory promoted and the FA would just drop it back. They have done this with Street, not complying with the planned pyramid. So when a Cornish club has mandatory promotion to step 5, really doesn't want it, there are a number of ways to avoid it. Don't do any improved ground works till after the date. After a few months in the league ask to be 'voluntary relegated' back to step 6, put loads of gravel down where the public stand, there are numerous ways to produce the negative result. The FA should deal with the promotion and relegation as it stands at the end of the season, then deal with those who want to change steps and fill the vacancies with those who do want to be promoted on the agreed ppg syatem.
  9. Spot on Rob, because with a pyramid system that the FA are trying to run and even further develop, it should all be based on promotion and relegation. So the first thing that happens is those in relegation spots at the end of the season are demoted and those in promotion spots are promoted, whatever system of promotion that exists between various leagues. It might be two down two up, may be a three involved, but what ever it is that is what happens at the end of the season. If a club decides to seek permission to be relegated and moved from the league they are in for all sorts of reasons, that is a separate matter all together. That move, if granted by the Fa, would create a vacancy in that league. The next club in line would than be promoted, it could be ppg, it could be play offs, 'toss of a coin' almost anything, but set within the rules. If you have teams that want to 'go back' to a league, than it must be a drop of at least two leagues, or when a club has promotion forced on them they just 'kick the ball around' for a few games, say we want to go back and all meaning of a pyramid is lost.
  10. If you are suspended from football for on field offences playing in step 5,6,7 a player can play in step 4 and above. If you are suspended whilst playing in step 4 and above the player can play in step 5 and below. If you remember there was a bit of a 'who ha' when argyle took advantage of this and played a suspended player in the SWPL. But like it or not that is the rule - or as close as i am going to get. So if a suspended player is out, say for four matches, he can still maintain his fitness and help others.😂
  11. There were extra spaces created as a result of a restructuring of the Southern League, when a central division was formed, that was why.
  12. I think you will find WOTP that its only the top club that gets promoted, at this level its automatic, no choice . With the new FA system coming in 20/21 the automatic promotion goes down to step 6, maybe 7 not so sure about that one though.
  13. I think the only reply for you Teflon, is that you should know football is one of those sports where the unexpected happens, its part of the game that makes it exciting and impossible to forecast. Ask some other clubs who were expected to win at the weekend, against so called weaker opposition. Sheffield Utd, Leicester City, Westbury, Liverpool, Fulham plus many more up and down the country. Its football.
  14. May be its down to mileage, Newquay - Sidmouth return 195 miles. Plymouth - Evesham (where Gloucester play) return 345 miles.
  15. IF it is because they cant field a team, then presumably Devon FA have awarded the match to Parkway..................?? Its strange that Buckland Ath asked Devon FA to cancel their match with Ivybridge on Wednesday, it was a no no from Devon FA, who even said that if ivybridge agree to a cancellation then both clubs would be expelled from the competition. So Mr Devon FA whats the difference? Torquay used a number of issues to avoid playing, 'we have a new manager' - we have an important FA Cup tie at the weekend - we cannot use the youth team as they are playing tonight and couldn't play on Wednesday - get me the tissues. Get into the real world of local football Gary Johnson, its wrong to seek favours on past performances. For Torquay - we have the most important FA Cup match at the weekend in the clubs history. We have to play at Bitton on tuesday following that match on the Sunday. To use these excuses is totally wrong, especially by a former league club, now a local club. Devon FA should not bend over backwards and deny one club but let the other do what it wants. If a man like Gary Johnson is unable to produce eleven players for Wednesday its a sad indictment. People saying about unfair on the youth team - don't they have any adult players then . dear o dear
  16. The last time we conceded four goals was on 17th March 2017 at St.Austell, we lost 5-0 and finished 7th that season in the SWPL. Most clubs suffer heavy defeats at some point during the season, get it out the way and get going again.
  17. rarely disagree with you bald one - but I thought some of the 30yrd passes from Ben Joyce and Shane Krac really opened up the opposition. True all were not on top of it all the time, but looks good for the forthcoming season.
  18. I believe that they may not be out until at least the 18th of the month - the problem may be that a club in the Western League shares its ground with a club in the Southern league and as they are not publishing till the 18th, then the Western league cannot complete their fixture list - probably
  19. F.A.Cup Hengrove v Parkway 11th Aug - Hengrove are Western League Premier step 5 Winners home to Larkhall Ath Southern league step 4 25th Aug F.A.Vase Parkway v Brislington 1st Sept - Brislington are Weston League step 5 Winners away to either Wincanton/Radstock Western league One - step 6 15th Sept
  20. Spot on 'tractor boy' - think I will give up reporting after one try - or don't believe everything you read on web sites
  21. Not a very good reporter - Callington 1 - 3 Parkway. Goals for parkway were from Aaron Bently, Mike Smith and Stewart Yetton. Parkway had at least four missing from the squad, but still managed to bring on three subs. No doubt Callington had players missing, as all clubs will during this 'friendly' season. We were missing Hobbs, Trott, Farkins and Hillson through family,holidays and work. Callington started off at a great pace and went ahead through a deflected shot which left the keeper stranded. The second half was dominated by Parkway who played some really attractive football, quick movement and could have scored another four goals except for some clearances off the line. That's all I can manage.
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