We Two Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 This weekend was our first trip of summer to stay a couple of days with our friends in Penzance. Enroute we wouldn't miss the chance to see a game of football at a club that we always enjoy our visit to, and watch the Sticker v Falmouth Town 2nd team game. Imagine our amazement when the game was cancelled because Falmouth Town couldn't raise a team !. We know that this was a friendly game that because it was a friendly will be labeled as nonessential, but if a club the size and stature of Falmouth are finding it difficult to raise a team at this stage of next seasons preperations, the commitment needed to continue last seasons success will be needed throughout the club which of course will be supported by the inclusion of a successful and reliable 2nd team. As a side note we learnt last season to always check the status of a match before traveling, which saved us a few miles detour on the journey to Penxzance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Happens regularly for psf's, plus this year the friendlies are a touch on the early side to say the least. Time with the family to score some points at this time of the year, holidays, part time work and so on impacts on player availability. mattelot, Town Fan, Ronaldo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwdi Krugg Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Happens regularly for psf's, plus this year the friendlies are a touch on the early side to say the least. Time with the family to score some points at this time of the year, holidays, part time work and so on impacts on player availability. Ridiculous excuses 🤦♂️ Falmouth (Big Club) propaganda was splashed on this forum on a regular basis last season, now they can't even get a side together for an arranged pre season fixture? The vast majority of other clubs managed to get sides together yesterday without weak claims of family-time & holidays 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Time with the family to score some points at this time of the year, holidays, part time work and so on impacts on player availability. We're talking about a Western League club who couldn't raise a 2nd team side to play a prearranged game of pre season football. If this attitude is replecated and accepted as normal throughout Cornwall, then football as a whole will suffer in the county. The Sticker v Falmoth 2nds match is no different to any other match that is cancelled because of the lack of commitment of players, what surprised us was that the premier club in last seasons SWPL was unable to raise a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It is only beginning of July these players are not premiership players getting paid. It’s a boiling hot day. Most probably gone beach or out with the family rather then run around roasting hot weather in a pointless Friendly . right or wrong that is the way it is unfortunately it’s only hobby for the lads. Falmouth first team is a slightly different story as they are stepping up so probably need more commitment TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, Town Fan and mattelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Don't arrange friendlies too early then..... Simples !!!I MQx TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, Tommy Matthews, Footy follower and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Presuming that no one was forced to agree to play football and assuming that the possibility of it being a boiling hot day was always a known possibility, why agree to playing in the first place. Arranging a friendly on 9th July for a season that begins at Liskeard on 2nd August doesn't seem too early to us. the simple thing is not to arrange matches that you can't put out a team for and for whatever reason. Can't agree that freindlies are a pointless function for a club, whoever they are the manager needs to get his team in to playing condition. As stated already we are not taking issue with any particular club, rather the seemingly lackadaisical attitude taken by clubs where frendlies are concerned. We agree that we are not talking about Premiership players, but commitment to the cause is paramount in any sport that can breed success at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Uwdi Krugg said: Ridiculous excuses 🤦♂️ Falmouth (Big Club) propaganda was splashed on this forum on a regular basis last season, now they can't even get a side together for an arranged pre season fixture? The vast majority of other clubs managed to get sides together yesterday without weak claims of family-time & holidays 🤪 Tell your missus that...lol and come home from holiday to play a PSF...another lol for that. Town Fan and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, sportsman10 said: It is only beginning of July these players are not premiership players getting paid. It’s a boiling hot day. Most probably gone beach or out with the family rather then run around roasting hot weather in a pointless Friendly . right or wrong that is the way it is unfortunately it’s only hobby for the lads. Falmouth first team is a slightly different story as they are stepping up so probably need more commitment Seems the Falmouth first team were 5 or 6 short too against Truro according to their fans. Seems strange that the biggest club in the county would suffer in such a way. Devils@Dusk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It does seem to be getting earlier and earlier pre season. No wonder players are losing interest. Hardly any break at all. as I mentioned you have players with kids or families or young lads that see thier mates off out for day these cancellations will happen. and not to mention the cost of fuel etc to get to these games Town Fan and Ian Pethick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 From our final game of last season to the first friendly was 5/6 weeks. Go figure that one...bonkers! Training started 2 weeks before that...you couldn't make it up? Ian Pethick, Town Fan, sportsman10 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Martin McHugh said: Don't arrange friendlies too early then..... Simples !!!I MQx Now that's the comment!! Totally agree... Far too early..... Especially for the lower league clubs Summer is for a break from footy.. Time with the family etc etc Clubs at fault for starting too early Town Fan, Charlie Farley, MattP and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, le boss said: Seems the Falmouth first team were 5 or 6 short too against Truro according to their fans. Seems strange that the biggest club in the county would suffer in such a way. Correct Bash ! Luckily we don't have a player swap arrangement with another club . Hence some of the 2nd team stepped up to play for the 1rst team as it should be and therefore left the 2nd team short and unable to fulfill the sticker fixture .Players are entitled to holidays just like you and me with only a small window to take them in .i also understand there was a sickness element as well .Better they miss a pre season friendly than a league / cup game. I can imagine the up roar on here if we had cancelled the 1rst team fixture against Truro due to player unavailability .People would have been spouting off " But they have a reserve team why didn't use some of them " We did do that but alas that's not right either ,you can't have it both ways my friend . Town Fan, Jeff Chambers and CRD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Will need seriously looking at by the leagues and clubs. Only thing that early starts and minimum break between seasons is player burnout and injuries added with loss of interest by the time the season arrives. why is the season starting on august 2nd ? Surly the toward end of august was always the start?? Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, sportsman10 said: Will need seriously looking at by the leagues and clubs. Only thing that early starts and minimum break between seasons is player burnout and injuries added with loss of interest by the time the season arrives. why is the season starting on august 2nd ? Surly the toward end of august was always the start?? All to do with the world Cup in November apparently. 🤔 Town Fan and sportsman10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, mattelot said: All to do with the world Cup in November apparently. 🤔 😂 ahh yes all them players from Cornwall called up to Qatar. Absolutely ridiculous Devils@Dusk, mattelot, Town Fan and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanopinion Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It would be interesting to see a few names from the Falmouth Reserves that played against Truro yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, justanopinion said: It would be interesting to see a few names from the Falmouth Reserves that played against Truro yesterday. Charlie Edney ,Ollie pickup ,Zac Telling. telithowitis, justanopinion and Town Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It’s not about players being called up, it’s players going to the pub on the lash to watch games instead of playing. Gives the leagues and clubs leeway for cancellations. Sensible planning by the administration for this season in my opinion. when FIFA allowed money to dictate a winter World Cup it’s bound to effect all football mattelot and Town Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yourhavingalaugh Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 I know many people have been caught out this year with summer events being cancelled from last year ie weddings, holidays, music/theatre trips, big birthdays, visiting family members and being re-scheduled this year, and people forgetting all about it, and if they cancel they lose their money. Everything seems to be jammed 2 months before the football season starts. I think it’s a communication issue, as a manager/club just can’t assume these days that players will be automatically available for a friendly organised in early July. What’s embarrassing is when a professional club like Plymouth Argyle couldn’t fulfil a couple of reserve team fixtures a few years ago. Plus, it’s interesting that some big local teams haven’t got a reserve team, but it’s nice to see Bodmin Town set up a reserve team this year. Best of luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 10/07/2022 at 13:30, sportsman10 said: Will need seriously looking at by the leagues and clubs. Only thing that early starts and minimum break between seasons is player burnout and injuries added with loss of interest by the time the season arrives. why is the season starting on august 2nd ? Surly the toward end of august was always the start?? Used to be September! Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Used to be September! With the amount of pre season games now being played, it feels like a 1st July start. Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 In the light of the comments on this thread that condem what is perceived as an early start, with no regard given to the wellbeing of players who need family time, beach time and run a risk of preseason burnout, the following question comes to mind. Who are the people who arrange these games, is it club managers who need to see their squad play, or club committes who hope for some financial benefit from the attendance of supporters. Whoever arranges the games it must be with the full knowledge of the clubs concerned who must field the blame for not considering the players availability for all the reasons listed above ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 hours ago, mattelot said: Correct Bash ! Luckily we don't have a player swap arrangement with another club . Hence some of the 2nd team stepped up to play for the 1rst team as it should be and therefore left the 2nd team short and unable to fulfill the sticker fixture .Players are entitled to holidays just like you and me with only a small window to take them in .i also understand there was a sickness element as well .Better they miss a pre season friendly than a league / cup game. I can imagine the up roar on here if we had cancelled the 1rst team fixture against Truro due to player unavailability .People would have been spouting off " But they have a reserve team why didn't use some of them " We did do that but alas that's not right either ,you can't have it both ways my friend . Perhaps it’s something you should look at then?? Who organised the fixtures then? Surely you make sure you have the players available before you accept the fixture. Come on, you’re in the big boy league now Nigel so let’s start acting like big boys!! Hope that pedestal isn’t too high for you F Troop 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Pointless post. But least you got to see the lovely country in your way down to Penzance! mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, cornish leg end said: Pointless post. But least you got to see the lovely country in your way down to Penzance! How is it a pointless post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanopinion Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Not really a pointless post. Imagine the guys at Sticker who had agreed a home game a few weeks ago to help both teams preparations for the 2022/23 season. They would have prepared the pitch, arranged officials and after match hospitality !! Poor show on Falmouth. Uwdi Krugg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 45 minutes ago, le boss said: Perhaps it’s something you should look at then?? Who organised the fixtures then? Surely you make sure you have the players available before you accept the fixture. Come on, you’re in the big boy league now Nigel so let’s start acting like big boys!! Hope that pedestal isn’t too high for you F Troop 🤣🤣🤣 The Big Boys league ! Ah Yes I remember a certain manager crowing this time last year. "You know your in the big boys league when you get given one of these !" ( An electronic subs board ) 😁🤣😂 Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Footy follower said: How is it a pointless post? It’s preseason. It’s early. Maybe it would be better to make contact with someone to check it’s on. It’s good weather players have a life too. It’s a pointless post moaning about a friend not being on who actually cares? 2 minutes ago, justanopinion said: Not really a pointless post. Imagine the guys at Sticker who had agreed a home game a few weeks ago to help both teams preparations for the 2022/23 season. They would have prepared the pitch, arranged officials and after match hospitality !! Poor show on Falmouth. Imagine the guys at sticker enjoying the weather yesterday with family and friends as they had a free Saturday. 😂😂😂 mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, justanopinion said: Not really a pointless post. Imagine the guys at Sticker who had agreed a home game a few weeks ago to help both teams preparations for the 2022/23 season. They would have prepared the pitch, arranged officials and after match hospitality !! Poor show on Falmouth. That's just an opinion .😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 It appears that no one is likely to take responsibility for arranging a match that doesn't take place because of player unavailability, we just hope that the same players who were unavailable in any cancelled friendly matches, realise that the club they represent could face financial penalties or loss of points if they cry off and a league game has to be cancelled. Football matters aside we have enjoyed our weekend jaunt to Penzance, the cancelled game cost us nothing, but it's worth clubs noting what the value of commitment can be to their success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, We Two said: It appears that no one is likely to take responsibility for arranging a match that doesn't take place because of player unavailability, we just hope that the same players who were unavailable in any cancelled friendly matches, realise that the club they represent could face financial penalties or loss of points if they cry off and a league game has to be cancelled. Football matters aside we have enjoyed our weekend jaunt to Penzance, the cancelled game cost us nothing, but it's worth clubs noting what the value of commitment can be to their success. But this is a friendly so who actually cares. You had a lovely detour down to lovely Penzance. Perfect weather for it. I’m sure you’ll enjoy your games down there this year half penzance half helston pulling the shirt on this year. mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwdi Krugg Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Reading all these sob-story, hardship & early season trauma tales from the Falmouth Appreciation Society perhaps they should consider winding-in their weekly broadcasts of what a BIG club they are 🤦♂️ It's rather embarrassing when a self labelled Galactico Club can't shuffle a side together for a pre planned kick about at Sticker 🥴 Devils@Dusk and le boss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Town Fan Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Uwdi Krugg said: Reading all these sob-story, hardship & early season trauma tales from the Falmouth Appreciation Society perhaps they should consider winding-in their weekly broadcasts of what a BIG club they are 🤦♂️ It's rather embarrassing when a self labelled Galactico Club can't shuffle a side together for a pre planned kick about at Sticker 🥴 It's not a sob story, it's the facts. As was stated above, the first team was short and the reserves stepped up, that's what reserve teams are for. It's early in the football year and players will be unavailable for a number of reasons. We know that other clubs have had to cancel PSFs, it's not ideal, but that's life. It's not a decision that would have been taken lightly and before you ask, yes I do feel sorry for Sticker. As for the "Galactico Club" comment, I think that's way out of line. telithowitis, CRD and mattelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, Town Fan said: It's not a sob story, it's the facts. As was stated above, the first team was short and the reserves stepped up, that's what reserve teams are for. It's early in the football year and players will be unavailable for a number of reasons. We know that other clubs have had to cancel PSFs, it's not ideal, but that's life. It's not a decision that would have been taken lightly and before you ask, yes I do feel sorry for Sticker. As for the "Galactico Club" comment, I think that's way out of line. You don't need 16 players for a friendly if it means leaving the 2nds short surely Uwdi Krugg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwdi Krugg Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Footy follower said: You don't need 16 players for a friendly if it means leaving the 2nds short surely Makes one wonder why they agreed to a Reserve fixture the same day? Especially if half the first team prefer sitting on a beach or shopping with their partners 🥴 Way too many scheduled games being called off in the area this season. Doesn't help clubs who are genuinely serious about turning up, nor football supporters, some of whom may have wasted petrol for nothing. Devils@Dusk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Uwdi Krugg said: Reading all these sob-story, hardship & early season trauma tales from the Falmouth Appreciation Society perhaps they should consider winding-in their weekly broadcasts of what a BIG club they are 🤦♂️ It's rather embarrassing when a self labelled Galactico Club can't shuffle a side together for a pre planned kick about at Sticker 🥴 Has Big Al taken over your account on here Uwdi? Town Fan and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Falmouth are only one of several PSF's that have been cancelled, all for pretty much the same reasons. It's just too early, too hot, and too close to last season. RAPPO, Charlie Farley, mattelot and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Footy follower said: You don't need 16 players for a friendly if it means leaving the 2nds short surely 11 outfield players plus 5 subs as per the new rule . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchy Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Way, way too early for Pre-season games, no wonder people are losing interest! Do a little training regularly through July and then have 2 or 3 pre season matches early August and you should be fine. Even more reason to take it easy as people are just working more and more and a lot harder, especially the younger generation trying to get on the housing ladder. I watched a few minutes of a Trelawney league club first and reserves train a few nights ago, and I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and especially hearing, it was like some sort of boot camp. Realism is key if you want to attract and keep players, especially at levels below SWPL!!!! le boss and Ian Pethick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Uwdi Krugg said: Reading all these sob-story, hardship & early season trauma tales from the Falmouth Appreciation Society perhaps they should consider winding-in their weekly broadcasts of what a BIG club they are 🤦♂️ It's rather embarrassing when a self labelled Galactico Club can't shuffle a side together for a pre planned kick about at Sticker 🥴 Can you confirm that you are a self labelled INCOMPETENT REPORTER AND ARMCHAIR MOANER on another site Uwdi ? 😁😂🤣😛🤪😜 Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mattelot said: 11 outfield players plus 5 subs as per the new rule . You don't have to have 5 subs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: You don't have to have 5 subs! That's fine Dave ,but if you can use 5 subs especially in extreme temperatures as it was on saturday ,your going to use them .Truro brought 7 on all at once . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Better get a few more lined up for this Saturday with the temperature soaring! 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Town Fan Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 hours ago, The Town Man said: Has Big Al taken over your account on here Uwdi? 44 minutes ago, mattelot said: Can you confirm that you are a self labelled INCOMPETENT REPORTER AND ARMCHAIR MOANER on another site Uwdi ? 😁😂🤣😛🤪😜 Have Big Al and Uwdi Krugg ever been seen together? mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Better get a few more lined up for this Saturday with the temperature soaring! 🤭 It’s gonna be a hot one ☀️ Wadebridge away on Wednesday evening first though 😰 mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanopinion Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 I don't fully understand the comments about friendlies being too early, a little training in July and 2 or 3 warm up matches in August has been suggested. To the best of my knowledge, first league SWPL fixtures are the first week in August when teams need to be up and running to surely get points on the board !! Mitchy, Devils@Dusk, The Town Man and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, mattelot said: 11 outfield players plus 5 subs as per the new rule . NO such rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Lets hope that none of the lads have any aspirations to join any of the professional clubs, current opinion suggests that the shock would be too much!😅 Devils@Dusk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFC Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, We Two said: Lets hope that none of the lads have any aspirations to join any of the professional clubs, current opinion suggests that the shock would be too much!😅 lets be frank, if they were aspiring to be at a professional club, they wouldnt be mixing it in the SWPL. If they are good enough, would have been snapped up at an early age by an academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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