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  1. How do you know none of the boys in question help out now or at their previous clubs? Perhaps some have coached younger players, marked club pitches or refereed youth games? As I said at the outset, we’ve discussed our differing opinions regarding young players/people before, so no point going over old ground. You’ve obviously had a bad time with the young people you’ve met at your club.
  2. Do you know the 16, 17 & 18 yo’s at Truro City? Or are you just generalising about young players as per usual? Would they have earned it more if they all went to SWPL or St P’s clubs and sat on benches for seasons, like it used to be? From what I know the players in question are hard-working, dedicated and ambitious, as they should be. IMO young people should be encouraged to maximise their potential and certainly not be held back or disparaged, as seems to be the want in Cornish football and perpetually by some old giffers on this forum!
  3. Same old broken record, you just aren’t a fan of young people. We’ve been over this before 🙄
  4. The thing is Josh, it IS a personal issue for the young players involved. Easy for the clubs to hide behind procedures, integrity of the league etc, when a large amount of this is probably about the players and which club/s they are at. Please remember that some of us have children that have been put in an awkward situation by this, you must appreciate that? Some believe that the player’s best interest should always come first and others the club, the rules or the committee. For me if we do what’s right by the players, everything else falls into place. I imagine we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that. Hope you have a good weekend too.
  5. Josh, for someone who’s not bothered about the outcome you have been quite vocal on the matter. Wendron have benefitted multiple times from applications for promotion BTW and wouldn’t think twice of going down the route Truro City have, if they felt it would benefit them. As for being a stickler for rules and regs, it’s probably good to remember there’s young players involved at the heart of this, who are keen to progress and fulfil their potential. What’s more important, rules & regulations, the “integrity” of Cornish football and the club’s own parochial interests or the development of the County’s most able young players? Whilst I appreciate the players have been with other clubs previously, the adult clubs don’t own them and in reality the vast majority of these player’s development has been aided by their youth coaches around the County, including John and Paul. The fact that the players are willing to play a division lower than possible elsewhere surely shows that their loyalty has been earned? I’m confident that these players are more than capable of identifying the right environment for them to receive a level of coaching that justifies the drop to the St Piran’s league, when all would have had options a division higher. Personally, I find the idea of any club going out of their way to take away opportunities for young players repugnant and that it is probably an fair insight into said club’s priorities, values and decision making. These boys need to find THEIR level, which there is arguably greater opportunity to do with Truro City than at other step 6 or 7 teams. Some might disagree with that, probably based on history or personal bias, but in reality it’s not their decision to make - that’s up to the players. It does trouble me that a club with a youth section would be anti young players getting game time with excellent coaching and opportunities to progress. I genuinely feel both Wendron and you are on the wrong side of this argument, morally and strategically.
  6. Unfortunately we’ve got to learn to live with the risks associated with COVID now, so it’s up to the individual to make their judgement now that football is possible within the guidance. Football without crowds, a pint in the clubhouse, changing-rooms, dare I say it a brown envelope not worthwhile to some. But to young players who’ve had 2 seasons curtailed, just the chance to play is an amazing thing! Let’s get behind those individuals and clubs that choose to play this cup, whilst respecting the decision of those that opted against it 👍🏻
  7. Like most things in life, a matter of perspective. For an older player, with plenty of football behind them and vulnerable family members, then most probably no. For a 16yo, who’s had U15 and U16 seasons cancelled, is physically healthy and desperate to enjoy their sport again in an environment that limits risk by adhering to guidelines, then most probably yes. When there’s less young players progressing into adult football in the next few seasons, let’s try to not just blame them and x-boxes for once...
  8. No worries Josh, hope you’re well mate. I only came in here to stick up for young players, it shouldn’t be controversial to suggest we adapt for their benefit, should it?
  9. Told they are better than they are? Another generalisation. Praise EFFORT over outcome, modern youth coaches go out of their way to create growth mindsets. In my experience it’s adult teams that promise young players the world then sit them on the bench for months at a time stunting their development. Equal game time and trophies for all I agree are an absolute nonsense, BUT the kids haven’t enforced these ideas themselves! If young players have been affected by these daft concepts then we need to be patient with them. Jumpers for goalposts, let the game be the teacher, those days are gone I’m afraid so we need to move fwd not back. We already have non-competitive football up to u11 Ok, I’ll point it out AGAIN, I said I have players who should aspire to playing above St Piran. Why shouldn’t players want to play as high as level as possible at some point in their “career” Wendron official?
  10. So if we follow that logic, should all clubs have youth sections?
  11. I’m not sure how I’ve promoted myself here, certainly wasn’t my intention anyway. I’m just not a fan of sweeping generalisations about our young players, who in my opinion should be encouraged NOT disparaged. Why shouldn’t talented players aspire to play at a higher level than the St Piran’s league? I didn’t say begin adult football higher. Who mentioned ludgvan, look at the title of the thread/post
  12. I think there’s only a few youth teams left and I’m not sure there’s a link between youth and men’s clubs.
  13. Some of my players I’ve been childcare for without doubt along the years, but that’s been the distinct minority tbh. Funny that despite young players being such a waste of time, my lads played a friendly earlier this season where both the Porthleven and Helston 1st team managers were in attendance, obviously nothing better to do with their time on a Sunday afternoon!
  14. I just don’t see how Ludgvan and all their problems are somehow specifically down to youth footballers, just another chance to complain about young people these days and other such nostalgic nonsense. And in relation to “real football” I hope some of the youth players I’ve coached will have the ability and desire to play at a higher level than the quality of the St Piran games I’ve watched this season. Time will tell I guess, but I imagine you‘ll be happy to make another prediction regarding that... There are plenty of coaches that are well meaning parents with a couple of courses, fair play to them as long a they don’t think they know it all......they deserve praise IMO. There are a multitude of ex-players who know football but don’t know how to coach, that’s ok too as long as they don’t assume they know it all.....plus the more of these guys that get involved in kid’s football the better IMO, as long as they are there to help young people learn and not to just show everyone how much they know. I would imagine you’ve already made your mind up which category you think I fit into!
  15. Well with 5 of our players being Penryn college students I think there was a chance of them at least considering Penryn Athletic, probably for the best if they don’t. Just another club with no ability to reflect and adapt their ways to the changing landscape. You might as well go outside and yell at the clouds tbh, change is inevitable. IMO if we don’t consider youth and adult football as 2 parts of the same development process we’ll always encounter these issues. We’ll see how many of the players I’ve coached make it through to adult football, but your assumption that you’ll be proved right if they don’t shows the lack of introspection rife in “senior’ men’s football. Always someone else’s fault....
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