Dave Deacon Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 EAST Callington Town Res P-P St Dominick Millbrook Reserves 2-1 Morwenstow Saltash United Res 1-2 Polperro Sticker Reserves 0-1 Saltash Borough Torpoint Athletic Res 8-0 St Dennis Reserves WEST Illogan RBL H/W St Ives Town St Day 2-4 Mullion Truro City Reserves 1-1 Redruth United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Game of the day at St Day. Must win for Mullion in their quest for promotion to the Peninsula League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Trust Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 So what happened to the game at Illogan? Game off at Carharrack (Trelawney 3 - visitors did not choose to field a side) so I schlepp over to Oxland Parc when, had I known, I could have dropped in St Day. No time to get back there for the start - I hate missing the start of a game - so now I'm cutting the ruddy grass at home instead! What's up with so-called players these days, or am I being unfair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 With St Day losing Illogan win the West Division despite their game called off this morning as St Ives pulled out as couldn’t raise a team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Truro City res. 1 (0) v Redruth United 1 (1) think the draw was a fair result with both teams competing well. Missed the start but when I got there Redruth were 1 up through Bish towards the end of the half Dan turned to shoot and hit the post. Second half after getting a telling off in the changing room the Truro team came out with more purpose, but Redruth nearly scored when the ball bounced between two defenders and the keeper came running out and Dan toed it past him but from about 20 yards the ball trickled agonisingly just past the post. Truro we’re putting the defence under a lot of pressure and deservedly got their goal. Obviously this put their tales up but the defence held out well to keep it level till the end. Was a little disappointed with some of the comments towards the ref Kev Knowles. One of their players fell over in the box and not for the first time so was rightly booked. Such a shame because they do play some lovely football. must have been at least 50 watching and thanks to the ladies for the refreshments. Devils@Dusk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 The ref at torpoint was the best we've had all season, hopefully the lad who hurt his knee from torpoint has a speedy recovery n it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, davegrose said: The ref at torpoint was the best we've had all season, hopefully the lad who hurt his knee from torpoint has a speedy recovery n it's not too bad. Lee Swabey. He’s a Football League referee usually but is returning from injury. davegrose and MattP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, FootballChat said: Lee Swabey. He’s a Football League referee usually but is returning from injury. That's brilliant. Isn't their a premier League linesman that sometimes refs down here too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bray Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, BrummyBarry said: That's brilliant. Isn't their a premier League linesman that sometimes refs down here too? Simon Long is the gentleman's name, and for the record he's referring the Senior Cup Final at Poltair on Monday. Kick off at 2.00pm. MattP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, BrummyBarry said: That's brilliant. Isn't their a premier League linesman that sometimes refs down here too? Yes, Simon Long is a Premier League assistant and steps into the middle down here when he is available. Lee Swabey is Plymouth based but is the head of referees for the Cornwall FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB34 Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Congratulations to Illogan,yet again despite all the egos and bluster St Day fall woefully short when it comes to actually winning anything Cornish Dave and UTFR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Throw 3 Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Despite there being ample abuse/criticism of referees on this forum, there are still plenty worthy of praise. Lee, Simon, and many more! davegrose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Had the pleasure of assisting Kevin many times over the years and would say hand on heart he is up there with the better ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 I took in the St Day game today and, despite two very questionable, borderline farcical decisions from the referee; both teams and benches conducted themselves very well. There are several teams and players that would have made that afternoon extremely unpleasant for a referee after those decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Majority are okay though surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Dave Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, CB34 said: Congratulations to Illogan,yet again despite all the egos and bluster St Day fall woefully short when it comes to actually winning anything Too much money and no passion. It’s a st day trend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Hocking Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, FootballChat said: I took in the St Day game today and, despite two very questionable, borderline farcical decisions from the referee; both teams and benches conducted themselves very well. There are several teams and players that would have made that afternoon extremely unpleasant for a referee after those decisions. Which two decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, GaryHocking said: Which two decisions? The decision to judge whether a ball is over the line from 25 yards away. Twice. Two moments of madness from what looked to be an otherwise competent official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Hocking Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, FootballChat said: The decision to judge whether a ball is over the line from 25 yards away. Twice. Two moments of madness from what looked to be an otherwise competent official. I was at the end Mullion were defending in the 2nd half so I didn’t get a good view of their “did it / didn’t it cross the line” goal so will withhold comment, but for the St Day goal the linesman (the linesman provided by Mullion) was perfectly in line and signalled “goal” instantaneously as the ball (in his opinion) crossed the line. Not sure where you were standing so you may have had an even better view than me, but if you have an issue with the St Day goal then your issue is with the linesman rather than the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 I can imagine that without trained linesman that you get in the higher league's like peninsular, you seldom get them at club level who are able to keep up with play and be positioned at the right place at the right time. Surlely a ref wouldn't allow a goal if he wasn't certain a ball had crossed the line so maybe on these occasions he was correct? The Saint Piran games I've seen so far often give me the feeling that the refs are of a good standard I'm yet to see one yet where I thought he's terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeyes Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, FootballChat said: The decision to judge whether a ball is over the line from 25 yards away. Twice. Two moments of madness from what looked to be an otherwise competent official. Perhaps you didn’t agree with the decisions, that’s your prerogative. However, what would you suggest the referee does? I can’t see how you can describe “the decision to judge whether the ball is over the line from 25 yards away” as “borderline farcical”. If you’d like to criticize the performance and/or decision of a referee, please provide some constructive feedback or suggest what you’d do differently if you were in that situation. 31 minutes ago, BrummyBarry said: I can imagine that without trained linesman that you get in the higher league's like peninsular, you seldom get them at club level who are able to keep up with play and be positioned at the right place at the right time. Surlely a ref wouldn't allow a goal if he wasn't certain a ball had crossed the line so maybe on these occasions he was correct? The Saint Piran games I've seen so far often give me the feeling that the refs are of a good standard I'm yet to see one yet where I thought he's terrible Absolutely, I couldn’t agree more. The majority of St Piran league referees have served a couple of seasons minimum. They all undergo a laws exam and a fitness test. Yes, they make mistakes! So does every referee/player. Even top referees do, it’s good to see people like you recognize that. Unfortunately some people feel that referees are robots and not human! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, eagleeyes said: Perhaps you didn’t agree with the decisions, that’s your prerogative. However, what would you suggest the referee does? I can’t see how you can describe “the decision to judge whether the ball is over the line from 25 yards away” as “borderline farcical”. If you’d like to criticize the performance and/or decision of a referee, please provide some constructive feedback or suggest what you’d do differently if you were in that situation. Absolutely, I couldn’t agree more. The majority of St Piran league referees have served a couple of seasons minimum. They all undergo a laws exam and a fitness test. Yes, they make mistakes! So does every referee/player. Even top referees do, it’s good to see people like you recognize that. Unfortunately some people feel that referees are robots and not human! I remember talking to a young chap a few months ago after he'd had a difficult game. I thought he did a great job and it made me realise that just like players they have emotions. Players at this level make 20+ mistakes a game and nothing is said but if a referee makes one, they are often criticized to the hills on forums and social media platforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeyes Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, BrummyBarry said: I remember talking to a young chap a few months ago after he'd had a difficult game. I thought he did a great job and it made me realise that just like players they have emotions. Players at this level make 20+ mistakes a game and nothing is said but if a referee makes one, they are often criticized to the hills on forums and social media platforms Absolutely! Referees beat themselves up for days after making an error, particularly if it’s had a big impact on the game. Lots of people don’t see that side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Had the pleasure of running the line with Adrian the St. Day assistant and he is one of the most popular in the league Mark Leah and MattP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballChat Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 hours ago, eagleeyes said: If you’d like to criticize the performance and/or decision of a referee, please provide some constructive feedback or suggest what you’d do differently if you were in that situation. My suggestion would be to get a better position to make that important call. It would have been nearly impossible to accurately judge such a tight call from so far away. To be clear; I’ve stated that, besides these 2 decisions, I thought the referee had a relatively good game in tough circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pascoe Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 What a league and season to be part of, it’s a shame that st Ives couldn’t raise a side today but it is what it is, not the way we wanted to win the league but that said is there a bad way to win it? Credit to mullion today as got the win and gave us the league title, massive scenes at the final whistle and a great day for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown20 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Any reports on the East league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 6 hours ago, FootballChat said: My suggestion would be to get a better position to make that important call. It would have been nearly impossible to accurately judge such a tight call from so far away. To be clear; I’ve stated that, besides these 2 decisions, I thought the referee had a relatively good game in tough circumstances. How far away was he? You can see a goal line from the edge of the box and sometimes the grounds have lumps in the goal mouths to allow water to run (if I'm right penzance's goal areas are quite prominent as an example) so it would be relatively easy to see a ball cross the line from 15-20 yards away and even more if the ref is at an angle? He must have been sure they were goals so well done him for making those important calls which he probably knew would be met with resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philheybrookbay Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Saltash United 1 Polperro 2 Relatively good game at Waterway, once Polperro got 2 in front they defended like demons and whilst Ashes got one back, Polperro deserved the win. Well ref’d by Neil Hunninsett who didn’t get a foot wrong nor his decisions. Have to say, some would have sin binned an Ashes player for back chat but he used his experience to keep it 11 v 11 throughout. MattP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 The only reason a referee is needed is to invke the rules when players, (most of whom can do no wrong ) forget them. A professional referee and linesman have been mentioned in this thread, but it's a good bet that they have both had their fair share of criticism from those involved in the professional game whose opinion is based on a perfect interpretation of the rules however near or far they may be from an incident. I have had my fair share of disagreements with refs in the pro game, but often on reflection they were closer to the correctness of their decision than me. I never did meet the perfect ref, or for that matter certainly not the perfect player either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 13 hours ago, FootballChat said: Lee Swabey. He’s a Football League referee usually but is returning from injury. He was well worth his fee yesterday,like I sed the best we've had all season,others could learn a lot from this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, davegrose said: He was well worth his fee yesterday,like I sed the best we've had all season,others could learn a lot from this guy. What was so good about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggy78 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, davegrose said: He was well worth his fee yesterday,like I sed the best we've had all season,others could learn a lot from this guy. As I'm sure any Football League player could teach a St Piran player a thing or two. Herein lies the issue. You have players at Step 7 expecting the officials to be Step 1 ability. 12 hours ago, BrummyBarry said: made me realise that just like players they have emotions. Who'd would have thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BrummyBarry said: What was so good about him? Everything he done tbh,I'm far from perfect as a player n take any criticism as it comes but yesterday Lee was faultless whereas my team wasn't so faultless hence the scoreline 🤣🤣🤣 BrummyBarry and MattP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Philheybrookbay said: Saltash United 1 Polperro 2 Relatively good game at Waterway, once Polperro got 2 in front they defended like demons and whilst Ashes got one back, Polperro deserved the win. Well ref’d by Neil Hunninsett who didn’t get a foot wrong nor his decisions. Have to say, some would have sin binned an Ashes player for back chat but he used his experience to keep it 11 v 11 throughout. Fair report and agree on Neil’s performance; always good to have a referee of his quality and experience in a competitive game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 7 hours ago, BrummyBarry said: How far away was he? You can see a goal line from the edge of the box and sometimes the grounds have lumps in the goal mouths to allow water to run (if I'm right penzance's goal areas are quite prominent as an example) so it would be relatively easy to see a ball cross the line from 15-20 yards away and even more if the ref is at an angle? He must have been sure they were goals so well done him for making those important calls which he probably knew would be met with resistance As a qualified assistant if I am not in line defenders or attackers give me grief but you young man are saying he should be able to see it from the edge of the box. In St. Pirans league clubs are supposed to have a qualified assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummyBarry Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, Postman Pat said: As a qualified assistant if I am not in line defenders or attackers give me grief but you young man are saying he should be able to see it from the edge of the box. In St. Pirans league clubs are supposed to have a qualified assistant No I'm not saying he should be able to see it from the edge of the box as that is silly. I'm saying it is possible to see it from the edge of the box if the club has raised goalmouth areas, which you see quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECPL Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Have St Dominick been awarded the points against Callington Town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 hours ago, ECPL said: Have St Dominick been awarded the points against Callington Town No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Hunn Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think you will find that this game was conceeded by Callington due to a lack of players so as far as we are concerned at St Dominick the points will be awarded to us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Ian Hunn said: I think you will find that this game was conceeded by Callington due to a lack of players so as far as we are concerned at St Dominick the points will be awarded to us!! That hasn’t been confirmed yet though has it!? Until an appeal is heard regarding other issues I wouldn’t be so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Hunn Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 I have just been told by Steve Carpenter that there are complications with awarding the points to St Dominick at this stage so we will let the league make their decision in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Ian Hunn said: I have just been told by Steve Carpenter that there are complications with awarding the points to St Dominick at this stage so we will let the league make their decision in the coming days. Exactly my point. And the answer to awarding points at this time is no then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFC Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 16/04/2022 at 21:46, GaryHocking said: I was at the end Mullion were defending in the 2nd half so I didn’t get a good view of their “did it / didn’t it cross the line” goal so will withhold comment, but for the St Day goal the linesman (the linesman provided by Mullion) was perfectly in line and signalled “goal” instantaneously as the ball (in his opinion) crossed the line. Not sure where you were standing so you may have had an even better view than me, but if you have an issue with the St Day goal then your issue is with the linesman rather than the referee. I also took this game in and was stood near to the linesman in question. He certainly didnt flag for the goal, he was bemused as the rest of us when the goal was given. He was flagging to the ref that he had made a mistake. A brave call from the ref making a decision like that from the edge of the box. Even the St Day bench couldnt believe their luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Hocking Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Fair enough - that’s not how I saw it but if you actually spoke to the linesman and that’s what he said to you then clearly I misunderstood his reaction - happy to withdraw my earlier description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, GaryHocking said: Fair enough - that’s not how I saw it but if you actually spoke to the linesman and that’s what he said to you then clearly I misunderstood his reaction - happy to withdraw my earlier description. Have to admit Gary, I got the feeling that the Mullion lino (Graeme Allen I think - brilliant midfielder in his time) was standing there rather surprised by the goal being given! However, by what the Mullion keeper said later, the ball might have gone over his line in the first half which wasn't seen and so things evened out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Hocking Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Happy to hold my hands up when I get something wrong - and clearly I got that one wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFC Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, GaryHocking said: Happy to hold my hands up when I get something wrong - and clearly I got that one wrong. Not a problem Gary - you're in the minority on this forum in particular when it comes to honesty, i'm a bit old school when it comes to what is said - more than happy to admit im wrong.... part of living 40+ years with my wife lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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