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Just now, Goldeneye said:

What rubbish Darren!!! Players cheat at every opportunity and will always do so, even if the referee is the best in the world!

Have the players cheated in those incidents yesterday? 

The Newcastle penalty incident is probably the worst of the lot. 

Players now feel the need to go to ground in order to get a penalty as if they stabbed up the referee doesn't give anything. Such are our new 'laws' something would only be turned over if "clear and obvious". 

It's time that they were called out and have to answer to someone. At the moment they answer themselves. 

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This same old rubbish keeps being spouted. The refs job is not easy - he relies on the assistance of his linesmen/women. He's always going to be wrong in the opinion of someone. I still say the referees do what is a very difficult job, very well. Do away with VAR, keep goal line tech and let the officials do their job. 

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1 minute ago, Keith B said:

This same old rubbish keeps being spouted. The refs job is not easy - he relies on the assistance of his linesmen/women. He's always going to be wrong in the opinion of someone. I still say the referees do what is a very difficult job, very well. Do away with VAR, keep goal line tech and let the officials do their job. 

But whilst VAR is here, it should be acting on incidents like yesterday shouldn't it? 

Or is it because Kane is England captain and the media darling. Gerrard, Rooney, Terry all used to get away with a lot more because of their status. 

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8 minutes ago, St Darren said:

But whilst VAR is here, it should be acting on incidents like yesterday shouldn't it? 

Or is it because Kane is England captain and the media darling. Gerrard, Rooney, Terry all used to get away with a lot more because of their status. 

I can't really comment on your point about media darlings Darren - I don't know, although that may carry some weight - but I hope not.

Can't comment on the incidents yesterday, I was watching one of my grandsons playing rugby.

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11 minutes ago, Keith B said:

I can't really comment on your point about media darlings Darren - I don't know, although that may carry some weight - but I hope not.

Can't comment on the incidents yesterday, I was watching one of my grandsons playing rugby.

Have a look at the incidents then come back to me. 

14 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

I'm a Spurs fan of 60 years...Kane was off for that even local football! 

This is my point, we can see that from exactly what VAR is looking at, so why hasn't he got involved in that. 

I also agree that Robertson's was a sending off. 

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I will always be a supporter of referees , without them there would be no game BUT!!!!!!   being a Wolves supporter , after the debacle  in their game with Manchester City last week  I have to say that some are poor . The ball striking Mountinou's chest under the armpit ??????  how did VAR miss that ? Jiminez's first tackle being given as a foul then a yellow . He was wrong to prevent the free kick and deserved the yellow card for that admittedly  but most pundits and referees didn't think the tackle was a foul . Sadly with the amount of money involved in league positions in qualifying for Europe , and the relegation issue points lost to poor refereeing decisions  mean a lot .

All the best everyone for Christmas and New Year , I've got tickets for the 2 Argyle games over the holiday so I'm hoping that there's no lockdown , travel restrictions  or game postponement .

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Harry Kane thought his tackle was a good hard tackle and was surprised to even get a booking, in his 1st interview with Sky he even said he touched the ball. 

Can't wait to see him stay on his feet when someone does that to him next week!! He'd be the first person crying to the ref.

I've got to agree with Shearer, Jenas and most of the others that the standard of refereeing is shocking.

Even with the Robertson tackle the ref thought it was only a yellow at first, when it was quite clearly a red from the word go! 🙄 

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23 hours ago, St Darren said:

All of them awful. The ones on the pitch, the ones on VAR. 

Until they are held accountable for their performances then the standard will continue to be awful.

Totally agree Darren,it's ruining the game

Once upon a time there was an idea to continue the 18 yard line across the pitch to the touchline and any player the wrong side of this would be offside,simple as.Beginning to look more sensible by the day thanks to the current VAR mess.

' Up The Town '

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Do you seriously think an experiment with the 18 yard idea would ever be tried ? It's too simple an idea . During my long life I've discovered that it's easy to be critical of rules and organisations . Usually when you hear the reasoning behind the rules you can see the reason for them . However in the case of F.I.F.A.  I believe that they are a ri incarnation of the Marx Brothers  without the humour . Going back a few years , they banned  the back pass to the goalies hands , no real logic to it except  a feeble reason that it stopped time wasting .That really worked they now play the ball across the field and back .to waste time .  The recent handball  fiasco which was so complicated that nobody really understood it . This season it's been changed but still nobody understands it . The flagging for offside scenario ie. leaving the flag raising late , whoever thought of that and what's the logic behind it . It might work in professional football  with neutral , trained lines people , but what about the poor substitute who's handed the lino's flag on a wet afternoon in Meveggisey ?. Imagine the abuse they'll get with a late flag .These people don't seem to grasp that professional football is only the tip of the iceberg  in terms of football played  and what work at the top level doesn't necessarily work lower down .

Football is or should be a relatively simple game but the rule makers remind me of Lord Hives the great engineer from Rolls Royce . When Rolls took over the jet engine production from Frank Whittle , Hives was told " it's a basically simple engine " He replied " don't worry we'll soon take the simplicity out of it ".

ps I only used Meva as an example , I wasn't implying that the players at Meva are abusive .

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I should have added that one quite obvious rule to be implemented would be to prohibit substitutions after 75 minutes   also more severe punishment  for the practice of deliberate systematic fouling  of a danger player . By this I mean the practice of a player fouling another player persistently until he's boked an then another player takes over . By danger player I mean someone like St. Maxim at Newcastle or Grealish  ( when he plays ) .

End of sermon .

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