Paul Collings Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, hedgerow said: If you read my previous post I mentioned the League AGM. All will be confirmed then. Could be a lively meeting. Will it be though ? There seems to be precious little concern/opinion being shown on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Postman Pat said: We at Redruth United play on a council pitch and people will tell you it had a bad reputation but we as a club rolled our sleeves up and are continuing each season to make things better Good for you, well done 👍 2 hours ago, Postman Pat said: We at Redruth United play on a council pitch and people will tell you it had a bad reputation but we as a club rolled our sleeves up and are continuing each season to make things better Good for you, well done 👍 2 hours ago, Paul Collings said: Will it be though ? There seems to be precious little concern/opinion being shown on here. I am sure it will be. A lot of changes gas happened over the last few days with the new league. Thrown a spanner in the works as well. ECPL, as well as other leagues in Cornwall, want to get things sorted sooner rather then later. People have put their options on what MAY happen. All will be revealed at the AGM, and then I am sure on this forum next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Being picky, the Plymouth and District League ceased being a few years ago. It's now the Plymouth and West Devon League and also runs the Sunday League alongside it's Saturday counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmer06 Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 21 hours ago, Paul Collings said: I for one still think that the higher up the ladder you go the better the facilities should be. With ECPL and Duchy being a "Recreational League" and not involved on the "Step" system, Surely ECPL isn't exactly going up the ladder? Just another league set up. Also, it can't be a football ladder if teams from Duchy Division 2 can leap frog a couple divisions and around 20 teams, especially when not in a promotion place? So surely it's just like applying for any other recreational league if they accept anyone? If it was a "ladder", the whole of Duchy Prem should move up to make up the numbers, do away with Duchy 4 and promote everybody a league? No more Plymouth teams than what are already here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Whistle Blower said: Being picky, the Plymouth and District League ceased being a few years ago. It's now the Plymouth and West Devon League and also runs the Sunday League alongside it's Saturday counterpart. That’s is being picky, it has changed its name so many times over the years though to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouter Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 23 hours ago, ChiefBadgers said: What’s your query regarding facilities at North Petherwin or concerns!?? It's not a personal query - and certainly not intended to cause offence. I was merely querying - IF the ECPL had ground criteria (which in hindsight it doesn't appear to) - whether the facilities, or more specifically the pitch, would be acceptable. My one and only visit to NP may have seen the surface at its worst perhaps! 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmer06 said: If it was a "ladder", the whole of Duchy Prem should move up to make up the numbers, do away with Duchy 4 and promote everybody a league? No more Plymouth teams than what are already here either. That's exactly what would have happened if the two Leagues were merged but that hasn't happened and not enough teams from Duchy Prem applied to move up to ECPL; hence teams below the Prem Division are likely to be accepted if they've applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Shouter said: It's not a personal query - and certainly not intended to cause offence. I was merely querying - IF the ECPL had ground criteria (which in hindsight it doesn't appear to) - whether the facilities, or more specifically the pitch, would be acceptable. My one and only visit to NP may have seen the surface at its worst perhaps! 😜 Perranwell, St Austell and Looe have pitches which have been listed as being bad, presumably because of the slope. I don't think North Petherwin is that bad in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefBadgers Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Shouter said: It's not a personal query - and certainly not intended to cause offence. I was merely querying - IF the ECPL had ground criteria (which in hindsight it doesn't appear to) - whether the facilities, or more specifically the pitch, would be acceptable. My one and only visit to NP may have seen the surface at its worst perhaps! 😜 No offence taken just interested into why you said that the post you made earlier of sides already in the league and ones your suggesting that may make up the league have far worse swede fields they call pitches 😬🤪 lots of work happening at Petherwin ambitious committee and squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECPL Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 It seems odd that the Combo league is lavished with praise for surviving yet the ECPL gets lambasted. Got me on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 hours ago, ECPL said: It seems odd that the Combo league is lavished with praise for surviving yet the ECPL gets lambasted. Got me on that one. Might it be because as yet we haven’t seen confirmation of what the make-up is going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Even if the ECPL confirmed the setup, that could still change at the AGM. Edited June 2, 2019 by hedgerow Word missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Throw 3 Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 17:26, Shouter said: It's not a personal query - and certainly not intended to cause offence. I was merely querying - IF the ECPL had ground criteria (which in hindsight it doesn't appear to) - whether the facilities, or more specifically the pitch, would be acceptable. My one and only visit to NP may have seen the surface at its worst perhaps! 😜 Whatever you do don’t slag off St Stephens’ “pitch” they get touchy about that. Luke Gibbons and coady-9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 8 hours ago, ECPL said: It seems odd that the Combo league is lavished with praise for surviving yet the ECPL gets lambasted. Got me on that one. Maybe it might be your attitude, being mocking towards, and aggressive about the St Piran League. Perhaps If you had semi rolled over and just accepted you couldn't change anything you would have garnered some sympathy. A little bit more decorum and a little less shouting off might have helped your cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: Maybe it might be your attitude, being mocking towards, and aggressive about the St Piran League. Perhaps If you had semi rolled over and just accepted you couldn't change anything you would have garnered some sympathy. A little bit more decorum and a little less shouting off might have helped your cause. OUCH !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: Maybe it might be your attitude, being mocking towards, and aggressive about the St Piran League. Perhaps If you had semi rolled over and just accepted you couldn't change anything you would have garnered some sympathy. A little bit more decorum and a little less shouting off might have helped your cause. 😎 Doesn't that normally get a "thug life" comment if it was a Youtube clip?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referee Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 28/05/2019 at 16:05, Jason Prynne said: Can"t really get my head around some of this,teams from lower down the duchy league & from Plymouth likely to be in yet St Mawgan who had there best seaon for a long time & doing major ground improvements have had to go into the St Pirans even though one of there players have said to myself they ideally want to be in the ECPL.On a side note a few have asked why St.Stephen haven"t gone St.Pirans & the reasons are other than during the 90mins no one takes it very seriously ,hopefully we will train this season but haven"t bothered with that for 3/4 seasons,looking at the likely line up"s of the 2 leagues the travel for us looks a lot less in the ECPL but we will make the very most of our away days as we always do,when asking the players to vote on which league only 3 wanted St .Pirans so also made the choice a fairly easy one & last up even though we are trying to bring the age of the group down again this season we have a lot who are around the 30 mark & are either self employed & work saturday mornings or a friday & saturday night shift or run youth teams & thas with out the youngsters who are in newquay til 4/5 am on a saturday then trying to get them to the game in good time so hence we"re happy where we are for this season the take a look at the situation again. I downed a couple of pints with the St Stephen players after a midweek game last season. It's true, they are not too worried about the state of the League they are in as long as they can play and enjoy their footie. Best of luck with whichever League you play in next year. coady-9 and Jimmer06 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 19:08, Whistle Blower said: Perranwell, St Austell and Looe have pitches which have been listed as being bad, presumably because of the slope. I don't think North Petherwin is that bad in comparison North Petherwin is by far the worst pitch I’ve played on in my 15 years in men’s football. On 02/06/2019 at 03:28, ECPL said: It seems odd that the Combo league is lavished with praise for surviving yet the ECPL gets lambasted. Got me on that one. Have you read the latest combo threads...? They're hardly getting lavished with praise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECPL Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 cornishteddyboy. You say: 'Maybe it might be your attitude, being mocking towards, and aggressive about the St Piran League.' My whole argument has always been that both the Combo and the ECPL were happy to continue as they are. Unfortunately this has been forced upon the CCFFA as they have had no option but to carry out their bosses mandate. You can't blame either league for adopting the status quo. It was obvious from the start that including the whole of Cornwall was always going to be a non starter. So it was back to the drawing board - what did they come up with East and West leagues. If they had thought of that in the first place the clubs would have been able to decide themselves. As it happens and despite their reservations the clubs decided to accept the offer. Who can blame them. They were put over a barrel and had nowhere to go. So what has changed - basically nothing except a name change. There is still un ease about the decision but what can the clubs do. As in the past half of them can't be promoted anyway. And I have said on many an occasion a club can only go as far as its circumstances allow. So what was it all about. It has caused controversy and a huge debate with many people saying , 'why the change'. Only the FA can answer that. For footballs sake I hope it works, but wait until next season when the FA come up with another change. The old adage of what isn't broke don't fix fits perfectly. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendronOfficial Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ECPL said: cornishteddyboy. You say: 'Maybe it might be your attitude, being mocking towards, and aggressive about the St Piran League.' My whole argument has always been that both the Combo and the ECPL were happy to continue as they are. Unfortunately this has been forced upon the CCFFA as they have had no option but to carry out their bosses mandate. You can't blame either league for adopting the status quo. It was obvious from the start that including the whole of Cornwall was always going to be a non starter. So it was back to the drawing board - what did they come up with East and West leagues. If they had thought of that in the first place the clubs would have been able to decide themselves. As it happens and despite their reservations the clubs decided to accept the offer. Who can blame them. They were put over a barrel and had nowhere to go. So what has changed - basically nothing except a name change. There is still un ease about the decision but what can the clubs do. As in the past half of them can't be promoted anyway. And I have said on many an occasion a club can only go as far as its circumstances allow. So what was it all about. It has caused controversy and a huge debate with many people saying , 'why the change'. Only the FA can answer that. For footballs sake I hope it works, but wait until next season when the FA come up with another change. The old adage of what isn't broke don't fix fits perfectly. . It wasn’t a non-starter though as it was the clubs who expressed interest and paid fees - more than enough to fill the league. It was only as dates approached that they pulled - the final ones that did so did at the last minute. If the clubs had done their research and made a decision to commit or not, then the ECPL and Combination and subsequent leagues would not find themselves in the position they are in. That being said, I admire the respective committees for their passion and commitment to heir leagues in ensuring they are run for the foreseeable future; although I hope avenues are explored to secure them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Titus Bramble said: North Petherwin is by far the worst pitch I’ve played on in my 15 years in men’s football. Have you read the latest combo threads...? They're hardly getting lavished with praise! Obviously never played at Halsetown before they moved into St Ives cornishteddyboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Whistle Blower said: Obviously never played at Halsetown before they moved into St Ives Correct! Only ever played them up at St Ives rugby club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Titus Bramble said: Correct! Only ever played them up at St Ives rugby club. Halsetown Inn would change your mind! Nice pub though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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