Dave Deacon Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 St Day, Mousehole Dev and Falmouth Town Reserves have applied for Step 6 football next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwayman in Exile Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Dave Deacon said: St Day, Mousehole Dev and Falmouth Town Reserves have applied for Step 6 football next season. So from that to confirm, no-one from the East, appreciate from the podcast, some can't? All three make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 58 minutes ago, Railwayman in Exile said: So from that to confirm, no-one from the East, appreciate from the podcast, some can't? All three make sense. Yep no one from the SPL East. Sorry but I'm not sure I understand your comment "appreciate from the podcast, some can't?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwayman in Exile Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: Yep no one from the SPL East. Sorry but I'm not sure I understand your comment "appreciate from the podcast, some can't?" From your interviews. St Dominic can't due to floodlight issues, they can't be installed due to the positioning. I think they stated too close to residential properties. Saltash Borough had issues when you spoke to Kevin, was a while ago so can't recall exactly what they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falmouthman Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Will Falmouth first team have to be promoted for the second team to be promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry H Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Yes Falmouth 1sts need to be promoted for Falmouth 2nds to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Falmouthman said: Will Falmouth first team have to be promoted for the second team to be promoted? Unless the criteria has recently changed, my understanding is that there must be a two Step "gap" between 1st & Reserve teams, so that "gap" would be Steps 5 + 4, meaning 1st teams would need to be at Step 3 to allow Reserve teams to enter Step 6. Falmouthman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, John Mead said: Unless the criteria has recently changed, my understanding is that there must be a two Step "gap" between 1st & Reserve teams, so that "gap" would be Steps 5 + 4, meaning 1st teams would need to be at Step 3 to allow Reserve teams to enter Step 6. The NLS Regs haven't changed John and still say 'two steps between' but the FA's current interpretation of that is that the first team has to be at Step 4 which means that Mousehole are eligible and Falmouth will be if the first team gain promotion. Why they're reluctant to change the regs to say that and make it absolutely clear is a bit of a mystery. Dave Deacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Railwayman in Exile said: From your interviews. St Dominic can't due to floodlight issues, they can't be installed due to the positioning. I think they stated too close to residential properties. Saltash Borough had issues when you spoke to Kevin, was a while ago so can't recall exactly what they were. Got ya! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Steve Carpenter said: The NLS Regs haven't changed John and still say 'two steps between' but the FA's current interpretation of that is that the first team has to be at Step 4 which means that Mousehole are eligible and Falmouth will be if the first team gain promotion. Why they're reluctant to change the regs to say that and make it absolutely clear is a bit of a mystery. Why am I not surprised about that? Dave Deacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 No disrespect to Falmouth or Mousehole, but it would be nice to see a new club promoted instead of a reserve team. Alan Partridge and Brianmooreshead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive88 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 06/01/2024 at 06:02, Railwayman in Exile said: From your interviews. St Dominic can't due to floodlight issues, they can't be installed due to the positioning. I think they stated too close to residential properties. Saltash Borough had issues when you spoke to Kevin, was a while ago so can't recall exactly what they were. Correct, we rent our ground from the national trust. And with there being neighbouring houses, we wouldn’t get floodlights. So unfortunately to many hurdles for us to jump. Although we would relish the chance to make the step up as we feel the rest of our current set up is good enough, and our playing squad good enough. Martin Hunn St Dominic FC Secretary Luke Gibbons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dave Grose Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 07/01/2024 at 08:38, Massive88 said: Correct, we rent our ground from the national trust. And with there being neighbouring houses, we wouldn’t get floodlights. So unfortunately to many hurdles for us to jump. Although we would relish the chance to make the step up as we feel the rest of our current set up is good enough, and our playing squad good enough. Martin Hunn St Dominic FC Secretary Give the planning permission people a back hander n get the lights up,or get on the parish council n get the backing that way lol in all seriousness tho have u guys actually sent out a letter to the houses which would be affected and seen if they would object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Abbo Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 On 07/01/2024 at 08:38, Massive88 said: Correct, we rent our ground from the national trust. And with there being neighbouring houses, we wouldn’t get floodlights. So unfortunately to many hurdles for us to jump. Although we would relish the chance to make the step up as we feel the rest of our current set up is good enough, and our playing squad good enough. Martin Hunn St Dominic FC Secretary Can I get in for free to your games with my National trust card ?. 😜 BAGMAN, Dave Deacon and Falmouthman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantona Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 St Day guaranteed promotion and Mousehole Dev favourites now by the looks of it? With Falmouth needing their first team to get promotion and themselves needing to catch Mousehole Dev up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitty Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Bantona said: St Day guaranteed promotion and Mousehole Dev favourites now by the looks of it? With Falmouth needing their first team to get promotion and themselves needing to catch Mousehole Dev up? Have st day met the ground grading requirements for promotion? From my understanding (which as always is very little 😉) the area around the ground still needs work to achieve the standard required (hard standing) Good well run club and as champions elect would be the right club to be promoted so fingers crossed for them 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Bantona said: St Day guaranteed promotion and Mousehole Dev favourites now by the looks of it? With Falmouth needing their first team to get promotion and themselves needing to catch Mousehole Dev up? To be clear, only one team can be promoted from each of the Premier Divisions. Each is an NLS Regional Feeder League in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantona Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 8 hours ago, Steve Carpenter said: To be clear, only one team can be promoted from each of the Premier Divisions. Each is an NLS Regional Feeder League in its own right. Only St Day then? I thought I read that there weren’t any teams going up from SPL East? Meaning there are two spaces available from SPL West? My mistake. Thanks, Steve. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Bantona said: Only St Day then? I thought I read that there weren’t any teams going up from SPL East? Meaning there are two spaces available from SPL West? My mistake. Thanks, Steve. 😃 You're correct that there are no promotion candidates from the East but the East and West Premier Divisions are, for FA purposes, individual Feeder Leagues and are listed as such in the NLS Regs. Under the rules only 1 team can be promoted from each division. If the FA were to over-ride the rules and promote 2 then it's entirely possible that the West Division next season would not meet the criteria to be classed as a Feeder as it's a requirement to have 14 teams at the commencement of the fixtures. That would be a long way from ideal and bring its own complications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Steve Carpenter said: it's entirely possible that the West Division next season would not meet the criteria to be classed as a Feeder as it's a requirement to have 14 teams at the commencement of the fixtures. That would be a long way from ideal and bring its own complications. Are there any considerations the teams in the Division One West title race have to think about to ensure they will be eligible to take promotion Steve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Dave Deacon said: Are there any considerations the teams in the Division One West title race have to think about to ensure they will be eligible to take promotion Steve? Grade 8 ground grading compliance is the driver Dave. All grounds in both Division One's apart from Looe and TMS and those we already have records for have been visited and feedback provided to the clubs. This season a club also has to apply but that will change next season as the grading exercise will be completed very soon. From the top Mawnan need to move their pitch to the top of the field and are negotiating that but it may not be possible for next season, Hayle aren't eligible, Praze cannot meet the grading at Nancegollan but may have a solution, St Ives would need another check of the pitch against the Grade 8 requirements, Troon passed ground grading, RNAS Culdrose have some works to do and will be compliant in time for promotion at the end of next season, West Cornwall are Grade 8 compliant. Of those clubs Mawnan, Troon and Praze have applied. BAGMAN, Railwayman in Exile, Thecupfootballblogger and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 A question on relegation Steve, Wendron look like being relegated from Div.3 west. Where does that leave the Wendron team in Div.4 west. Will they have to leave the league. If so it seems harsh on the club, but I also understand about 2 teams from the same club being in the same league Dave Deacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 10 hours ago, Martin Eddy said: A question on relegation Steve, Wendron look like being relegated from Div.3 west. Where does that leave the Wendron team in Div.4 west. Will they have to leave the league. If so it seems harsh on the club, but I also understand about 2 teams from the same club being in the same league Yes and no is the answer Martin. SCOR states that they should 'automatically retire from the competition' at Rule 22b although this is in italics which means it's an optional rule though it is one that has been taken. On the other hand Rule 2m states 'Only one Team from a Club shall be permitted to participate in a single division unless there is no viable alternative because of logistical issues and/or reasons linked to participation and geographical boundaries........' So, with no other league as an option to join with Cornwall FA permission, 2 teams from the same club could compete in the same division BUT they must operate as two separate entities meaning, for example, players could only be registered for one or the other and could only move between the teams by being transferred. As it happens Wendron 5ths have given provisional notice to withdraw anyway. Dave Deacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 I thought that was the answer, just wanted clarification. Thanks.Congratulations by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thomas Allcock Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Do we know if St. Day will take promotion ? Plenty of work to meet ground grading requirements. And local residents resistant to floodlights and parking issues ? Shame as they absolutely walked that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Leah Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 St Day have submitted all promotional paperwork as this has to be done prior to the end of December. We have had a stadium accreditation visit (formally known as ground grading) and we have a few items outstanding. We have been gradually working on items such as changing rooms, public toilets, hospitality, widening the pitch, digging out so that the pitch can be lengthen by 4m this May all over the last two years. We have to put hardstanding on 3 sides, seater stand, ticket booth and floodlights. All of which have gained planning permission (some in 2021). Work is commencing on Sat 4th May with some volunteers, then it's over to pitch contractors and ground contractors to complete the rest. We will shortly be instructing a floodlight company to get them install in the near future too. Hopefully that brings the world up to date with little of St Day AFC!😁🖤💛 Fish, RAPPO, BAGMAN and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Still mathematically possible for St. DAY not to win the league, but it would take a miracle for it not to happen. Congratulations and good luck with both the work in the summer and your adventures next season Mark Leah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sijames Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 On 21/04/2024 at 09:23, Mark Leah said: St Day have submitted all promotional paperwork as this has to be done prior to the end of December. We have had a stadium accreditation visit (formally known as ground grading) and we have a few items outstanding. We have been gradually working on items such as changing rooms, public toilets, hospitality, widening the pitch, digging out so that the pitch can be lengthen by 4m this May all over the last two years. We have to put hardstanding on 3 sides, seater stand, ticket booth and floodlights. All of which have gained planning permission (some in 2021). Work is commencing on Sat 4th May with some volunteers, then it's over to pitch contractors and ground contractors to complete the rest. We will shortly be instructing a floodlight company to get them install in the near future too. Hopefully that brings the world up to date with little of St Day AFC!😁🖤💛 shame no mention of the car park? can hardly get 20 cars in there let alone enough for a big game! the overflow field i used a while back is an accident waiting to happen its so uneven, going out either end onto a very dangerous road! ST Ives pitch needs to be looked at at the end of this season, steve carpenter there must be a basic requirement for any level for a pitch to be relatively even, its horrendous down there and getting worse as the seasons pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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