Dave Deacon Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 From the SWPL : "The officers of the Carlsberg South West Peninsula League were saddened to receive notification from Foxhole Stars AFC that they have withdrawn from the West Division following a loss of manager and players. The Foxhole club were foubder members of the league and although on-pitch success has proved elusive, off the pitch they have made many friends. The matter has to be dealt with under league rules and the club will receive written notification in the next few days of the penalty for late withdrawal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Man Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Best of luck to all at Foxhole for the future. You will bounce back stronger for this Chappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretscout Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 and then there were 16. Sad day for Foxhole. Will there be any addittion to the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 and then there were 16. Sad day for Foxhole. Will there be any addittion to the league? Probably too late now, as it was when Truro pulled out recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitedrhino Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sign of the times - Just poor decisions from the CCFA to allow too many leagues and too much travelling - Foxhole back in the ecpl Div One - All teams have a bye. fit them in ECPL Sad day for Foxhole, sad day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 How on earth can you blame the CCFA all the clubs and leagues are long established, I think you need to look elsewhere for pointing fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseneWanger Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sad day for Foxhole stars, played with the team start of the season great bunch of lad and committee are fantastic. Such a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Foxhole will have to start from the bottom I'm afraid!! Sad times indeed especially for the people behind the scenes who put so much into these clubs. Unfortunately as already mentioned a combination of too many teams / leagues and the fact that journeymen go from club to club following their mates / a certain manager will always result in this happening!!! The sooner committees see this the better their clubs will be for not chasing the quick success they all strive for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 With the non helpful rules within the ccfa, it is no surprise there are withdrawals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Its a real shame for the club but 16 teams should be enough in a league anyway. Clubs cannot continue to find linesmen, physios, committee members, money collectors, tea servers, shed painters, kit washers, treasurers, secretaries, sponsors and the occasional few bodies to wear the kit on a Saturday and entertain the supporters who have to then find the money to come and watch!!!! Sad times. MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gossip man Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's a sign of the times. I can see it happening to a few more teams , Not enough quality players around, plus many teams have player budgets, More teams than Players. Hard times for many teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitedrhino Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 B Manning, if i am wrong i will apologise, but don't the CCFA have to sanction extra leagues ? i.e SWPL Premier, East and West - ECPL Premier and ECPL Div One - 5 Leagues when a few years ago it was Cornwall South Western League and East Cornwall Premier League. These leagues can't just start a League up without the Approval of the County they Affiliate to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 B Manning, if i am wrong i will apologise, but don't the CCFA have to sanction extra leagues ? i.e SWPL Premier, East and West - ECPL Premier and ECPL Div One - 5 Leagues when a few years ago it was Cornwall South Western League and East Cornwall Premier League. These leagues can't just start a League up without the Approval of the County they Affiliate to. Best not forget the Jollys Cornwall Combination League ! 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I agree about the CCFA, for them it's all about the money, they couldn't care less who fulfils their fixtures etc so long as the cheques keep coming in!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 That is the most sensible statement yet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 unitedrhino, Please may I ask what extra leagues ? I may be wrong but I think CSWPL is an FA League, all the other league`s as I stated are long well established not just suddenly been sanctioned. Pointers the CCFA do not run any Leagues all they run is an FA cup competition in line with the rest of the County FA`s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Why is there always so much confusion about what the CCFA actually do. Perhaps they should run Open Days to meet the footballing public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitedrhino Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Cornwall South Western League - East Cornwall Premier League and Cornwall Combination League - That was all the Senior Leagues Cornwall had. Now there are 3 SWPL and 2 ECPL + The Cornwall Combination, so their are 3 extra Senior Leagues to start with. Extra Players, more travelling and of course MONEY needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Open days - that will never happen because they would be forced to listen to the supporters point of view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 unitedrhino, How can i put it so you can understand, the CSWPL is an FA league and part of the pyramid system as set out by the FA not the CCFA which is a County FA. It has a requirement for two feeder leagues which are the East & West Divisions. Now the ECPL due to teams wishing to enter split into two divisions (still basically the same league) also recently the Mining and Falmouth & Helston league`s amalgamated to form a single League so now down West we have instead of two Leagues with four divisions each we have one League with five divisions. I hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 More fixtures to arrange for Mr Hiscox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Dear oh dear! How can people be so out of touch with what is really happening in local football and then rest the blame for everything on the CCFA. To start with, not all Clubs playing in SWPL West are Cornish Clubs (Vospers & Holsworthy) and all 18 Clubs in SWPL East are Devon Clubs - as are about half of Premier Clubs. I'm not saying that the current demise of Clubs/Teams should not be investigated (which it is by the FA both nationally and locally). Society has changed over the years and local football has remained much the same; Clubs with money prosper, those without struggle. Too few players committed to playing at the highest level they can achieve - preferring to "play with their mates"; The whole ethos of Clubs needs to change to accommodate the desires of those who wish to play the game. I could go on but suffice it to say, none of this is the fault of the CCFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff's Telling Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 A real shame about Foxhole. I wonder - does this mean for the 2014-15 season just one Foxhole club team- in the Duchy League, and no senior team at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Clubs are part of the community and should remain so. Ambition is one thing but it can also kill a club. Take Penzance for example, the majority of away trips would equate to a minimum of 60 mile round trip, how far can the club feasibily go in the pyramid? For a club to progress it needs to be sustainable, there aren't many at SWPL level that can sustain things as they currently are. Soon as the money dries up at clubs then players will leave Nb. There are the odd exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetspur Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Wonder if Foxhole will get as much s&&t,as Truro Reserves got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Why should they? Totally different circumstances surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandlilywhite Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Really sad news about such a friendly club. Hopefully all their problems can be resolved and they can return to the fold soon. Good luck to all at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Quite right St Darren - sustainability is what it's all about. The Club (community) provides the facilities to allow players to play and this alone is an expensive proposition in the majority of Clubs: County affiliations, County Cup entry fees, League subscriptions, insurances, Business Rates, ground rent, training facility hire, playing kit, laundry, gas, electricity, water, pitch maintenance, referees, away travel all have to be paid for. Revenue at the gates is falling and sponsors/advertisers are becoming more and more difficult to find - as are committee members to run the Clubs. The result of all this will most certainly see the demise of further Clubs in the future - everybody just hopes it won't be theirs'! Good luck to all a Foxhole - I'm sure they fully considered all the options and consequences before coming to their decision: as a Club they've given themselves every chance of re-grouping and growing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 In that case, perhaps the ccfa could reconsider the fees to clubs, after all they are supposed to be the wealthiest fa in the country!Also are the affiliation and fees freely available for the supporters to see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Chown Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 In CCFA defence, I ask them straight if they were the wealthiest County FA after hearing that on the forum numerous times and the answer I got back was far from it. All accounts are publicly available to clubs to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 With the demise of Foxhole and Truro City Reserves will there be no relegation from the Division at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthbetold Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I agree to many sheep in cornish football all following each other around club to club. Also a lot of players playing a lower standard due to wanting to play with there mates / travel less and no desire to player higher standard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 More clubs/teams to go yet, the interest is not there anymore. When the older generation of volunteers retire a lot of teams will crash. You'll be left with a few mates teams, and that will be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Been saying this for a long time and its not just football, fewer people can be bothered to help others, most just want to look after number one. how many players finish playing and then just walk away? all that experience leaving the game. lots of people cannot even be bothered to stay for a pint after a game and as for collecting subs!!! Anyhow looking forward to the new season let the games begin hopefully we will have some teams to play against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 There's no relegation from the west division this year. That was confirmed by Phil hiscox after Truro withdrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripper Stebson Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I agree too that more clubs will readjust to where they are financially comfortable playing, including premiere PL sides. Too many journeymen in this league,and too many below average journeymen who think they are better than they are. Let's face it..Football at this level is a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turd Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Someone's got to say it SWP went completely overboard when Truro withdraw from the League Blatter of Cornish football knocking the club was a complete disgrace and did not help Cornish football nationally Greg Dyke had the right idea two fingers to FIFA until they play the game with an even hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Everyone's entitled to their own opinion turd - just don't think many will agree with yours! (except BIG AL of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I most certainly agree. I assume you are a ccfa official and naturally assume they are perfect and never make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec300 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 If Foxhole drop down to the duchy league will their senior players be eligible to play . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Any player can play in the Duchy or Trelawney Leagues at the start of the season. Restrictions cannot be carried forward from the previous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turd Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think a,Truro City is to blame for all that's gone wrong in Cornish football despite beating Argyle 5-1 . They just got lucky :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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