BAGMAN Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Should be an interesting clash at Kernick Road tonight, 1930 ko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAFC Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Draw 2-2. Goldy with a brace, Ash Stids to hurt his leg and Kev Lawrence to moan all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Blue and white barmy army on tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 How much is it for tonights game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Someone able to keep updated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Worth every penny of my £3 tonight. Referee was superb and I loved the long sleeves! I totally forgot I come to watch two teams play football once he started blowing his whistle...love a ref ruining an entertaining game ? Shout of the match from the Penryn bar person...I wish the ref would hurry up and blow his watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAFC Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Who got sent for Helston? Straights or 2 yellows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Referee was shocking, wanted to be centre of attention. No consistency, but a cracker of a game! Couple of great goals. Play carried on as the 1st helston player to get sent of trundled off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Referee was shocking, wanted to be centre of attention. No consistency, but a cracker of a game! Couple of great goals. Play carried on as the 1st helston player to get sent of trundled off the pitch. Shocking? He wasn't that good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Straight red for Ben Stidwell...handball. Two yellows for Ash Stidwell...seemed he got a second yellow for going down injured? Interesting decisions all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Ruined a very good game, and even at times made me question the score(I forgot due to his laughable decisions) why was the 2nd red card issued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 1st red was for hand ball, denying a goal scoring opportunity-straight forward enough. Dont know why the 2nd yellow was given, but i dont know if it may have been the same player that got booked for a dive earlier on, so silly 1st yellow. But for you two helston fans to blame the ref I think takes away what was a very good performance from the young Penryn lads. Well done to a very good Penryn side from me. Ref I thought was mostly right. And another helston player could of quite easily been sent off at the end for an attempted rugby tackle! Luke Brabyn the man of the match for me. Decent crowd and very entertaining game for a neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I attended the game as a neutral supporter, wanting to watch a game between two top sides. The game was a cracker, that the ref poured petrol on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbie Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ron Manager...no one above was blaming the ref for Helston defeat. They were passing comment on his performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ron Manager...no one above was blaming the ref for Helston defeat. They were passing comment on his performance Forgetting the referee's performance how do you think the game was won or lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ron Manager...no one above was blaming the ref for Helston defeat. They were passing comment on his performance Forgetting the referee's performance how do you think the game was won or lost? The game was won for Penryn by scoring more goals than Helston. The game was lost for Helston by not scoring more goals than Penryn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAGMAN Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The game was lost mainly due to a poor defensive performance by Helston. To score 4 goals away from home should ensure you get something from the game. Take nothing away from Penryn, good young side who stuck to a game plan and played on the counter with pace and purpose. Some of the Ref's decisions were slightly strange but overall an entertaining game for the crowd - someone said 225 which is awesome for a midweek game. Well done all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I thought Penryn just about deserved it Dave, little bit sharper than us to the loose balls and a bit more fluent than us in attack, which is rarely the case when Helston play. So fair play to Pemryn and it's going to be far from a one or two horse race this season, with at least 5 teams capable of putting a decent run together similar to that we have enjoyed in recent weeks. As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. I haven't seen or heard of any real effort from the powers that be within the CCFA, to recruit and train ex players to take up the whistl., Last night was a prime example, great ground, under lights, why weren't three proper officials appointed? Excellent opportunity for a couple of aspiring referees to take the flag for a great experience in a relatively big game for this neck of the woods. I suspect clubs at our level would be resistant to this given the huge expense that one official is, let alone three but food for thought for the future. I'm sure any up and coming ambitious referee would 'run the line' for nothing in a game of that nature. Over and out :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I haven't seen or heard of any real effort from the powers that be within the CCFA, to recruit and train ex players to take up the whistle Are there many players out there that would want to referee after giving up playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 No there aren't Dave! Players talk the talk but can't walk the walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I thought Penryn just about deserved it Dave, little bit sharper than us to the loose balls and a bit more fluent than us in attack, which is rarely the case when Helston play. So fair play to Pemryn and it's going to be far from a one or two horse race this season, with at least 5 teams capable of putting a decent run together similar to that we have enjoyed in recent weeks. As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. I haven't seen or heard of any real effort from the powers that be within the CCFA, to recruit and train ex players to take up the whistl., Last night was a prime example, great ground, under lights, why weren't three proper officials appointed? Excellent opportunity for a couple of aspiring referees to take the flag for a great experience in a relatively big game for this neck of the woods. I suspect clubs at our level would be resistant to this given the huge expense that one official is, let alone three but food for thought for the future. I'm sure any up and coming ambitious referee would 'run the line' for nothing in a game of that nature. Over and out :-) So the free courses aren't an attempt by the County to attract ex-players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAFC Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Referees can never be right, a good decision for one side is a bad decision for the other. So no matter what decision is made, someone on the pitch or around the ground isn't happy. He only gets one view, so does everyone else. There are no replays so what some people "see" can be completely different from the referees angle. If people carry on complaining about refs then there will be no games on a Saturday or midweek as, like I say every week, "why would you want to be a ref. I certainly won't be after I stop playing. Fowey travelled to Tavistock last weekend to find that no ref turned up. If people carry on slagging refs off this will be a more common occourance so how about we just give them a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druth1966 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. An average player moaning about an average ref, brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. An average player moaning about an average ref, brilliant! If you're suggesting James is an average player - think again. He was one of the best around at his peak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. An average player moaning about an average ref, brilliant! Come on druth1966, speak nicely and I might let you come around and get some of my trophies out of the loft and give them a clean and while your at it my Aston could do with a good polish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The cornwall fa do nothing for Cornish football let alone encouraging new referees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druth1966 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 That was then and this is now. I played against him when he was at Penzance and he was average back then to. I'll pass on the cleaning thanks, got my hands full with my Hymer, but thanks for the offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The cornwall fa do nothing for Cornish football let alone encouraging new referees. What do you suggest the CCFA do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 If you're suggesting James is an average player - think again. He was one of the best around at his peak! Now he's down in the valley perhaps it's time for him to take up the whistle and show us all how it's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 That was then and this is now. I played against him when he was at Penzance and he was average back then to. I'll pass on the cleaning thanks, got my hands full with my Hymer, but thanks for the offer You should consider it, I will even throw in a Cornwall cap for your endeavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 If you're suggesting James is an average player - think again. He was one of the best around at his peak! Now he's down in the valley perhaps it's time for him to take up the whistle and show us all how it's done! Down in the valley?!? However given that I was always the 10th pick at 5 a side I dont think I have the profile to be a referee in our parts. Who knows what the future may bring, being a ref beats B&Q on a saturday afternoon. Dave, on a side note I wonder how many responses these threads would get if everyone had to put their names to their opinions/thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ex-players taking up the whistle?.....sounds like a good reality TV show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The cornwall fa do nothing for Cornish football let alone encouraging new referees.What do you suggest the CCFA do then?[/ quote]TRY A LOT HARDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperChels Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 As for the referee he missed some fouls and was a bit inconsistent with the cards and made some strange comments. Whilst the game was an advert for great attacking play at a level most agree has deteriorated over the last year 15 years. It also was a game that highlighted the dwindling ability of the man in charge, with the exception of a couple of decent refs (George Pattison, Kevin Knowles to name a few) over the last few years I genuinely leave games perplexed at some of the decisions I witness. However with such a shortage of the men in black, they are what David Atenborough might describe a protected species. A little bit like 9 players showing up for 5 a side, guaranteed a game no matter what your ability. Whilst continuing with the 5 a side analogy it is such a shame that 70% of the refs I see were very probably the 11th pick at 5 a side at school and ref a game like as if it is their 'moment' in the spotlight. On a football pitch in charge of the guys that in their minds eye represent the very tormentors from yesterdyear that would have condemned them to the sideline with just a bib for company. So until more ex-players give something back to the game that has given us all so much, we will continually witness the abject displays of the 'man in the middle'. An average player moaning about an average ref, brilliant! Come on druth1966, speak nicely and I might let you come around and get some of my trophies out of the loft and give them a clean and while your at it my Aston could do with a good polish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty01 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 If James was/ is an average player then you must of been one hell of a player Druth 1966, although I very much doubt it. James has achieved more than most in local football so to describe him as average is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Dave, on a side note I wonder how many responses these threads would get if everyone had to put their names to their opinions/thoughts? Probably not too many. It's always been a talking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Goldeneye, on 25 Sept 2014 - 12:05 PM, said: Dave, on a side note I wonder how many responses these threads would get if everyone had to put their names to their opinions/thoughts? I don't think I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Dave, on a side note I wonder how many responses these threads would get if everyone had to put their names to their opinions/thoughts? Probably not too many. It's always been a talking point. And that is why this forum is so popular!!! I have said it before on another thread about ex players being the best referees out there at this standard, sadly not many pick the whistle up until they're getting on a bit as they normally try and play until they can play no more!so never really make it to a decent level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I do agree with James about the fact x2 linesmen could of easily be allocated to the game, when fixtures are low in the week why not I'm sure Paul Murphy could of got a couple easily?? The referee was out of his depth and made up for that by being loud, arrogant and lost control of the game on many occasions, he didn't control the tempo of the game as most experienced referees would of done, and to that end ended up showing countless yellows and a couple of reds. A learning curve perhaps, or maybe just how things are! I know what would increase people to pick up the whistle more.....increase the money clubs pay officials, make it worth while,£18 a game plus mileage...not a chance you'd see people do it,£30+ at junior / early senior plus mileage then your talking...! I mean a crowd of 200+, plus the 50/50, food, tea etc and bar takings....easily affordable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 The referee was out of his depth He normally refs SWPL Premier Division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 And when you've both finished washing each others cars.....clean my bike will ya. The ref did NOT ruin a good game, rather added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druth1966 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 That was then and this is now. I played against him when he was at Penzance and he was average back then to. I'll pass on the cleaning thanks, got my hands full with my Hymer, but thanks for the offer You should consider it, I will even throw in a Cornwall cap for your endeavour. Keep the cap, Im not very good with musty smells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ref got nearly every decision right.could of gave a penalty to penryn before they scored played a good advantage, picked up westy for a dive again correct, Helston players lacked discipline and after being booked mouthing off to any ref is not good as a sending off is inevitable. On a good note two very good sides playing great football some cracking goals,best penryn side I have seen in quite a while,and Helston scoring four goals away from home you would expect a win,central defenders struggled with Laurence and no one could deal with the pace of Brayben who for me was mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davey Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've worked out that Penryn won and Helston scored 4 goals, but what was the final score?! Well done to Penryn for beating the league favourites. James Miller hasn't been average when I've played against him...maybe that says more about me than him though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Penryn 5-4 Helston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 This is all abit boring now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 That comment always makes me laugh.....don't read it.....simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Difficult when you click to see the content, then it makes you yawn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 As an x player and now a referee one problem we come up against is the fitness test is in June with the sweep up in August, if you have two holidays or have an injury at his time it means in general you can't referee the higher standard games leaving a bit of a shortage of referees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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