Mike Odgers Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Plans for Stadium for Cornwall and shops and homes could collapse without taxpayer money bailout By West Briton | Posted: March 31, 2017 By Richard Whitehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxman Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 So sad, but as always it's all about money, not sure it is in best place for Cornwall, the county is such a long county maybe it should be nearer the centre of the county. Just a stadium for sport may not pay for developers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JENGLE Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 If the deal for the Stadium collapses then there will be no future for sport in Cornwall. It's as simple as that really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, JENGLE said: If the deal for the Stadium collapses then there will be no future for sport in Cornwall. It's as simple as that really! Can't just give in to developers every time though Jengle. All along everyone has been told no tax payers money for the stadium, now the developers rewrite the script a little and now the council will consider it. Bloody joke if you ask me. I would love a stadium on my doorstep, but another 1500 houses aint going to help the people of threemilestone get to work any earlier. The county council already have plenty of their own land around Tms if they are that worried about the housing crisis. At the end of the day, i expect the developers will walk away with several million pounds profit in the back of their range rover and f off out of the county! Edited March 31, 2017 by Ron Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, JENGLE said: If the deal for the Stadium collapses then there will be no future for sport in Cornwall. It's as simple as that really! Bit dramatic to say there would be no future for sport. Bit presumptive to say Cornwall can't exist without a Stadium anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitty Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I agree Keith apart from the late 80's early 90's when Cornwall Rugby supporters used to pack out Redruth Recreation Ground the sports grounds in Cornwall do not even get near capacity including show piece events like the Senior / Junior Cup.....I am sure sport will continue no problem with or without any kind of new stadium with the grounds already available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetspur Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Sorry I disagree. Cornish Pirates could not go into Premiership rugby,because of ground grading. Truro City could not go higher unless ground improvements were made. They are the two major sporting teams in Cornwall,who are being held back because of facilities. In an ideal world,it would be great to see some proper upgrading and developement at Treyew Rd and make it a top quality Stadium. The same for the Pirates. But for reason's we are all aware of,its not happening. If the S4C is built and shared and run correctly,like Sandy Park at Exeter,it could become a great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetspur Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Keith B said: Exeter's Sandy Park has a lot of backing, from both the Council and local businesses. Add to this its location right on the M5 and these factors make the difference. So why cant S4C get the backing.??????? As for location.S4C could be much closer to the A30,the main road in and out of Cornwall. So Im not quite sure of your arguement. Get the Councils involved,get buisness'es involved,with the right PR,just like Exeter,it could be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JENGLE Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Ron Manager, I totally agree when you say we can't give in to the developers. Too many times they get what they want. I just think it's a complete farce all this stadium talk. Realistically we should be building it now. ex-chairman, I personally think we are in need of a Stadium for Cornwall. Without that, Truro City and the Cornish Pirates don't have a bright future ahead of them. Not saying they won't have a future, but it won't be a good one, I'm sure of that. This is all in the current circumstances anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Two relevant posts from the Blog of Councillor Fiona Ferguson : FRIDAY, 24 MARCH 2017 Truro City loses out to Council Incompetence The news that the new ground for Truro City Football Club is not viable, sadly, comes as no surprise at all. There has been a catalogue of incompetence on the part of the Council and greed tinted optimism by the developers promising two stadia funded by many houses and much retail development. In 2015 I attended a meeting in Whitehall with all the stadia protagonists (including INOX, Truro City Football Club, Helical Bar, the Pirates, Truro College), the Minister for Culture Media and Sport, John Whittingdale and four of the Cornish MPs. My aim was to get the Government to stump up money for the Stadium for Cornwall and to persuade the two clubs to share a ground to make the scheme more viable and the impact on Truro less severe. But no. The developers assured the Minister that they just needed their respective planning permissions to be granted and then all would be fine. Their schemes were both viable - no problem. So, the Minister stood back and let them get on. Except that they couldn't and didn't. Asda has walked away from the Willow Green Development opposite Threemilestone too. It is not clear whether the Council is now going to try and bale out one or more of these developments on A390 with taxpayers' money. The Council's target for new housing looks unachievable and there will be knock on effects for all of Cornwall. If the Council tries to 'help' then the Independent/Lib Dem administration must allow its proposals to be subject to proper scrutiny. The Council is currently itself undertaking a couple of residential developments at Tolvaddon and Bodmin. But being Bob the Builder involves more than just posing for photos with a spade or a digger. Posted by Cllr Fiona Ferguson and a more recent one.......... WEDNESDAY, 5 APRIL 2017 Council throws your money at property speculators The Council granted several massive planning permissions to developers in respect of the Threemilesone area between 2013 and 2015. It now looks (as I said at the time) as if those applications are not viable. So the Council proposes to spend your money paying off the speculators and building out the developments itself. Nowhere near enough information was presented to councillors (mainly in closed session) at the meeting today of the Housing Portfolio Advisory Committee to make the case for spending anything on this project. There are too many obvious but unanswered questions. If the Council believes that Cornwall is at risk of unwanted development because it is under delivering on its Local Plan then what we can say is that this is the most unlikely solution to it. There is a real risk that the development at West Langarth will go ahead with your money and with nothing for the Stadium for Cornwall. The only crumb of comfort today was that the Head of Planning said that the Council would not let the developers of Treyew Road off the hook. Their retail permission depends on the provision of an alternative ground for TCFC. This is another developer who talked a good game and has produced nothing. That ground better be in Truro. Posted by Cllr Fiona Ferguson at 20:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECPL Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 YAWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyweeso Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 the people of Cornwall, particularly Truro, should be writing to their Councillors (and prospective; nb there is an election on 4th May!) and asking for their position on this matter as a matter of urgency for the sake of the future of sport in this county. Pressure of the national homebuilding targets from central government is not helping and swaying this in favour of developers rather than good cornish folk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sport will go on in this county whether the stadium is built or not. And ratepayers will be subsidising it year on year as well as building it, I would love to have one for Cornwall ...it just does not stack up....so for me - let the private sector build it....they want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Heard on Radio today-Henry Boot the retail developers for Langarth,Threemilestone are now involved with a new plot at Heartlands, Pool. Perhaps there is more promise of attracting the retail world there as it is a brown field site at the heart of Cornwall's most populated area Camborne/Redruth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetspur Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike Odgers said: Heard on Radio today-Henry Boot the retail developers for Langarth,Threemilestone are now involved with a new plot at Heartlands, Pool. Perhaps there is more promise of attracting the retail world there as it is a brown field site at the heart of Cornwall's most populated area Camborne/Redruth. Big rugby area ,as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetspur Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Now looks like Helical Bar are prepared to invest into the S4C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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