Dave Deacon Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 With the forthcoming English Schools' Football Association international being staged at Truro at the end of February, I'm wondering if (m)any Cornish players have represented England at this level before? England v Wales info and online route for tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Dale band ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Not Cornish-but Norman Ashe (Falmouth-Porthleven-Illogan) I do believeIs Norman still living in the Falmouth area?Looking at an old team sheet25th.April 1959 Schools International England v Germany @ Wembley StadiumNo 7.(OR) Norman Ashe (Brierley Hill) No.5(CH) Capt.Chris Lawler (Liverpool and No.6(LH) World Cup winner Martin Peters (Dagenham)Only recall one of the German team No.10 (IL) Wolfgang Overath 1966 World Cup Finalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Dale band ? I know he represented England - but was that for England Universities or even England Youth? This game coming up is England Schools U-18 - different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Rower (Mark Rowe) played for England schoolboys at u15 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Matthews Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Matthew Etherington played U-16 alongside Joe Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Dale band played for England U18s in a tournament in Switzerland, or against them I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I played for England Schools U18s in 1989-90. Played against Wales, Holland and Switzerland twice. However, this was whilst I was representing Devon Schools FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I played for England Schools U18s in 1989-90. Played against Wales, Holland and Switzerland twice. Nice one! Any big names in the squad with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Matthew Jackson, played Premier League for Everton and Norwich. Darren Barnard, Chelsea, Barnsley and Wales. Phil Whelan, Ipswich Town. Michael Reiziger played for Holland. We played their full FA youth side and drew 0-0 at Roker Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Spoke to Bandy last night actually and mentioned it. He had about 6 games against similar opposition to Wrighty. He said the dutch team had Kluivert, Seedorf and Overmars in it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Nice bit of investigative journalism there rapter :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Michael Cowan, a regular in Falmouth Town's Combination team in the 1960s played international with the national association of boys clubs in 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 My old neighbour back in the 1960s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hang on. I thought Cornwall was not part of England. Can't have it both ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Spoke to Bandy last night actually and mentioned it. He had about 6 games against similar opposition to Wrighty. He said the dutch team had Kluivert, Seedorf and Overmars in it!! What was the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Lost 6-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Not surprising considering Kluivert was scoring European Cup winning goals as a teenager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky 13 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Am pretty sure a lad who went to StAustell Grammar School in the mid 60s played for England Schools at some level.His name was John Rich,a long time ago now,but he was in the upper 6th when I started school there in 1965. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Len Ellery became the first Cornish born player to represent England Youth team. He made his debut on 31/01/70 against Scotland at the Baseball Ground, Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 What about at English Schools' u-18 Football Association international level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I think that was the level he played as he turned 18 in February 1970. It was listed as England Youth and Percy Bartlett, the CCFA secretary was one of the selectors who put his name forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 This is where confusion might come in - england youth / england schools u-18 : are they the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 The West Briton - not always the most respectable source said it was England Youth. Len was playing for Truro City Reserves, and occasionally the first team. On the back of the appearances he made, he had a successful trial at Aston Villa which evidently didn't work out as he came back and signed for Falmouth before his employment took him to Somerset and he now resides in north Devon. I would assume it to be different to the schools as that seems to be a modern term. England Youth appears to be a higher status although that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Keith Manley from Plymouth I believe to be an England Youth International (Late 60's) although not Cornish he played most of his football at Falmouth.13 seasons 1970-83It used to be the Under 23's that was the stepping stone to a full England representation but now has been dropped to Under 21's.Wayne Quinn is an England u 21 International. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Quinny played for England b in 98 at loftus road when le tissier scored a hat trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPH Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pretty sure Chris Morris played England Schools under 19, as it was titled in those days.He obviously went on to play full International football for the Republic of Ireland . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Friday sees Truro City FC stage the Schoolboys Under-18 international between England and Wales. A good attendance is expected by all accounts, but unfortunately there won’t be a player from Cornwall in the match. Mind you, that isn’t too much of a surprise because as far as I have learnt, there have only ever been three Cornish based players to appear at Under 18 or younger level s! Geoff Lee, the Cornwall County FA Chairman and FA representative has read up a bit on this particular subject and reliably informs me that in fact Mark Rowe is the only English schoolboy that Cornwall has ever had at under-15 level. It may have been just the one cap, but nevertheless, it’s still an amazing achievement. It came about when the English Schoolboys were holding a 75th anniversary tournament with eight European countries involved and England played off for 7th and 8th place against the Republic of Ireland. At that age level, the selection was from boys throughout the whole country, whereas the under-18 match coming up on Friday is for boys who have stayed on in full time education. The FA has an under -18 squad, but this is something different as they are players from professional clubs. Geoff recounts that around 15 years ago, the FA took over the England Schools under-15 team and they ran it as an under-16 competition, but as they don't run that team anymore, Rower is the only ever lad at 15 to play for England. He can also recall taking Mark up to Carlisle after the player was selected for the squad for another match. The trip included getting the Sleeper train from Plymouth to London and from there up to the North of the country, a round trip getting on for a 1,000 miles, only for Mark not to get in the team! After 1972, the England Grammar Schools FA and the England Schools FA amalgamated and as far as Geoff has been able to establish, the only two Cornish based boys to have played at the Under-18 level are Dale Band and Chris Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Trust Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Nice poster. What time's kick-off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Nice poster. What time's kick-off? Click on the ticket application link and it states 7pm - and also says 7pm on this following link article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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