All go for Silverbow!

[Dave Deacon]

It would seem no reason now to hold back as tweeted by Chairman  Peter Masters : "@MrPeterMasters: Fanstastic news for @TCFC_Official this evening the Secretary of State has decided not to call in Silver Bow planning Application #rejoice"

[grim reaper]

Also S4C given green light.Where does Treyew planning fit in,is it linked to silver bow or separate issue.At least we will see the shenanigans start now!

[Guest]

Hopefully some stability for the club at long last. Fingers crossed the off pitch efforts match those of the team on it.

[Bodmin bey]

So how soon can we expect to see Truro playing at there new ground will there be a ground share whilst development is underway

[Dave Deacon]

Also S4C given green light.Where does Treyew planning fit in,is it linked to silver bow or separate issue.At least we will see the shenanigans start now!

Start now? It's been like that for about the last 10 years!!!

[Mauler]

Can somebody please answer these questions?

1. Who owns Treyew Road football ground?

2. Who did own Treyew Road football ground?

3. Who owns the Silverbow site?

4. Who is going to buy Treyew Road?

5. Will there be a 'Stadium for Cornwall'?

6. Will the stadium for Cornwall be at Silverbow?

Many thanks Mauler

[somersetspur]

Can somebody please answer these questions?

1. Who owns Treyew Road football ground?         1.JIL.

 

2. Who did own Treyew Road football ground?     2.Belonged to the Football Club,with 3 Trustee's,who gave the Club to Heaney.

3. Who owns the Silverbow site?                           3.Masters.

4. Who is going to buy Treyew Road?                  4.Helical Bar Developements.

5. Will there be a 'Stadium for Cornwall'?              5.YES.

6. Will the stadium for Cornwall be at Silverbow?  6.NO  Two seperate stadiums.

Many thanks Mauler

[Dave Deacon]

SSS - whatever happened to JoJo Investco, or is that the same as JIL?

And isn't it that Helical Bar is a development company aiming to build the retail park on the Treyew Road site on behalf of JIL?

 

Edited November 13, 2015 by Dave Deacon

[somersetspur]

SSS - whatever happened to JoJo Investco, or is that the same as JIL?

And isn't it that Helical Bar is a development company aiming to build the retail park on the Treyew Road site on behalf of JIL?

 

Dave,JoJo and JIL are the same.Or they changed names,but same Company.

Yes Dave Helical are the developement company going to build the retail park.

[Mauler]

Can somebody please answer these questions?

1. Who owns Treyew Road football ground?         1.JIL.

 

2. Who did own Treyew Road football ground?     2.Belonged to the Football Club,with 3 Trustee's,who gave the Club to Heaney.

3. Who owns the Silverbow site?                           3.Masters.

4. Who is going to buy Treyew Road?                  4.Helical Bar Developements.

5. Will there be a 'Stadium for Cornwall'?              5.YES.

6. Will the stadium for Cornwall be at Silverbow?  6.NO  Two seperate stadiums.

Many thanks Mauler

 

Righto got that.

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1. JIL (jojo) are obliged to provide Truro City AFC with a new ground in the event they sell Treyew Road?

 

[Dave Deacon]

From previous archived postings:-

"Helical entered into a development agreement with JIL, the owners of the TCFC site, in November 2012 and have been working up their proposals since that time. Helical and TCFC have announced that the current football ground at Treyew Road will be redeveloped as a retail park to be called Truro City Shopping Park. Proceeds from the development will pay for the relocation of the Club."

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[Mauler]

From previous archived postings:-

"Helical entered into a development agreement with JIL, the owners of the TCFC site, in November 2012 and have been working up their proposals since that time. Helical and TCFC have announced that the current football ground at Treyew Road will be redeveloped as a retail park to be called Truro City Shopping Park. Proceeds from the development will pay for the relocation of the Club

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And Silverbow is the ideal and preferred site.

Edited November 13, 2015 by Mauler

[Dave Deacon]

It's the one that the club's owners have been able to acquire, which ultimately the chairman suggested earlier in the week will be put into the name of trustees on behalf of the club

[Mauler]

So its looks like it may have gone a full circle, with Truro City FC owning the freehold of a new ground, with trustees being in charge of its business operations?

[Dave Deacon]

I don't think I said "in charge of its business operations" - can't see that while the present ownership of the club is in place. Why should it be either? The ground might eventually be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, but the football club is run by the company and whoever are the board/directors etc

[Nemesis]

What happened to the INOX involvement ?

Does Heaney still have a hand or finger in the situation ?

Will Masters pull out once he has got some money back from the sale of his land, to whoever is supposedly buying it 'for the club' ?

Has anyone from TISA got a Plan B if it does go tits up, City Of Truro FC dropping down, Hereford Utd style ?

[Mauler]

I don't think I said "in charge of its business operations" - can't see that while the present ownership of the club is in place. Why should it be either? The ground might eventually be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, but the football club is run by the company and whoever are the board/directors etc

Apologies.

For Truro City FC eventually, the ground (at Silverbow) could be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, which i think is a good thing. Then if the company running the club gets into difficulty it would not impact on the actual playing surface and infrastructure which ,in turn, would ensure Truro City would always have a football ground.

 

[ex-chairman]

I think the same people write the script for Hall for Cornwall pantomimes.

[somersetspur]

What happened to the INOX involvement ?

Does Heaney still have a hand or finger in the situation ?

Will Masters pull out once he has got some money back from the sale of his land, to whoever is supposedly buying it 'for the club' ?

Has anyone from TISA got a Plan B if it does go tits up, City Of Truro FC dropping down, Hereford Utd style ?

TISA have a get together today at 12:30,to discuss their plans for the future.

Personally,people now think ,because Silverbow has been given the go-ahead,everything is now OK.

I think I will just take a step backward's and see what unfold's.

Buisnessmen in football,with an opportunity to make money is very dangerous.

Just to repeat a Mr Masters quote this week.

"nothing last forever,it could be the end of the season,or maybe 4-5 years time". 

[Dave Deacon]

I don't think I said "in charge of its business operations" - can't see that while the present ownership of the club is in place. Why should it be either? The ground might eventually be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, but the football club is run by the company and whoever are the board/directors etc

Apologies.

For Truro City FC eventually, the ground (at Silverbow) could be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, which i think is a good thing. Then if the company running the club gets into difficulty it would not impact on the actual playing surface and infrastructure which ,in turn, would ensure Truro City would always have a football ground.

 

Unless the trustees repeat the Treyew disaster!

[somersetspur]

I don't think I said "in charge of its business operations" - can't see that while the present ownership of the club is in place. Why should it be either? The ground might eventually be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, but the football club is run by the company and whoever are the board/directors etc

Apologies.

For Truro City FC eventually, the ground (at Silverbow) could be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, which i think is a good thing. Then if the company running the club gets into difficulty it would not impact on the actual playing surface and infrastructure which ,in turn, would ensure Truro City would always have a football ground.

 

Unless the trustees repeat the Treyew disaster!

Just a thought.

Life President of the OSC,is in fact a old Trustee of the old Football Club.

Lets pray the OSC are not made trustee's for the New Club.

[stevieb]

 Looking in from the outside the whole thing is so complicated how do the fans keep up ?  It must be upsetting for Truro stalwarts who have followed through good and bad times , such a shame for the top team in the county making the media for non footballing matters and not what happens on the pitch ,  the trouble with football even at the lower levels to push on and be successful it takes money lots of it , it is a sad fact of modern sport .

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

Its complicated for a reason. To hide away who really has the control, and who will ultimately make the money.

Its always been about the money to made from day one. Those there now are only puppets, being used, and making a bit on it as well.

The real winners are the developers, and the one who masterminded, and  set this scenario up in the first place.

Its not hard to work out.who is pulling the strings, just have to sift through the smokescreen of companies, and subterfuge being employed.

[Bodmin bey]

Looking in from the outside surely all that matters now is that Truro end up with a new ground and if that ground is put into a trust and protected from any future sale, so many people want to knock Truro and everything that has happened to them off the field, but surely with everything that's happened it will all turn out for the good if they get there new ground, what a lot of people have a gripe about is who is making money from who every business involved will want to make money from any aspect as nobody runs a business at a loss as it wouldn't be worth doing else. 

[Mauler]

Looking in from the outside surely all that matters now is that Truro end up with a new ground and if that ground is put into a trust and protected from any future sale, so many people want to knock Truro and everything that has happened to them off the field, but surely with everything that's happened it will all turn out for the good if they get there new ground, what a lot of people have a gripe about is who is making money from who every business involved will want to make money from any aspect as nobody runs a business at a loss as it wouldn't be worth doing else. 

And would it not be fitting if, when starting at the new ground, they return to the black and red striped shirts that everybody remembers them in, launch a reserve team and make a provision for all the youth teams.

[Tom Trust]

I don't think I said "in charge of its business operations" - can't see that while the present ownership of the club is in place. Why should it be either? The ground might eventually be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, but the football club is run by the company and whoever are the board/directors etc

Apologies.

For Truro City FC eventually, the ground (at Silverbow) could be in the name of trustees on behalf of the club, which i think is a good thing. Then if the company running the club gets into difficulty it would not impact on the actual playing surface and infrastructure which ,in turn, would ensure Truro City would always have a football ground.

 

Unless the trustees repeat the Treyew disaster!

I would venture to suggest that the lesson from the recent past will have been learned. Heaney spun a plausible line to the trustees and gained control of the ground. As only the then trustees and Heaney know what was "promised", no-one, not even I nor Somersetspur, can say with 100% certainty that we wouldn't have bought his patter. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Meaning that as long as any previous trustees are involved, the same mistake is not going to be made again. As long as some very graphic instructions are left behind as the old trustees shuffle off, that should protect the ground from any future Heaneys in the decades to come.

And as for suspicions about businessmen and the club, as a socialist even I recognize the need for capitalism and the successful capitalist builds an empire, be it small or large, that is self-sustaining and makes him a living. Nothing wrong with that.

As long as the new main stand with press box is in the right place and not behind a goal.......

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

I should have added at the end of my post.....best of luck to Truro from me.

I might have a look over Tuesday, just to see how good this level of football actually is.

[cornishteddyboy]

Listening to the radio and reading papers, not all the money is in place for Silver Bow. Did I hear correctly that they would need at least £700,000 in grants. 

Will they be available?

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

That'll be the next sob/drama story.

[cornishteddyboy]

On BBC website this morning

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34831309

[Soccer Follower]

If the "Silverbow Stadium" is intended to be up and running by the middle of 2016,could not the Cornish Pirates ground share here with Truro City to ease the horrendous traffic issues which are very likely in this area if both stadia are constructed? 

[somersetspur]

If the "Silverbow Stadium" is intended to be up and running by the middle of 2016,could not the Cornish Pirates ground share here with Truro City to ease the horrendous traffic issues which are very likely in this area if both stadia are constructed? 

Traffic issues.?????????????????????

Cant get any worse ,than it already ,is.

[Dave Deacon]

"...if we get into the Football League" - Nice to be positive but are Truro really going to have the finances to go higher after the move and no Helical funds?

[somersetspur]

Also we must remember the plastic pitch that will be laid at Silver Bow.

How higher can TCFC go with a plastic pitch.?

I believe at this moment,with a plastic pitch,TCFC could not go any higher.

So if promotion is achieved,as the Chairman tells us ,that is the target.

Where do we go.

I see next season,ground-sharing.

Favourite destination at the moment. Kassam Stadium,Oxford.

[Dave Deacon]

I'm obviously missing something with the reference here and on tiger talk about Oxford❓

[Guest]

Regards the 3G pitch. Maidstone United also have a 3G pitch. From its article on Wikipedia it appears to be OK for Conference National and North/South levels. Getting into the Football League would mean league approval for 3G pitches or replacing it with grass.