SteveG Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I realise that sport and politics should not normally be mixed together, but there are times when it is difficult to ignore what is happening in the wider world. Russia is threatening to annex territory from one of its weaker neighbours, the second time in under six years that it has done so. Putin has engineered this crisis in exactly the same way that Hitler engineered the Sudeten crisis of 1938, and the aims and objectives of the Kremlin are precisely the same as those of the late and unlamented Fuhrer. The question is, should we just ignore all this and hold a World Cup under the Russian Prime Minister's nose in four years time? Surely there must be somebody else who feels uneasy at the idea of giving this vile individual greater legitimacy. I cannot see how tolerating his presence at all of the host team's matches, and at the final itself, can be in any way welcomed. Of course, the ideal solution would be for FIFA to find an alternative venue for the tournament, but we all know perfectly well that FIFA are never going to do the right thing this side of Hell freezing over. What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Talking England or eveyone? We would all know the answer to England given the balls our FA have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 will england make it to this world cup? four years is a long time in football and a lot can happen between now and then putin could be gone , but also what about the 2022 world cup and the way workers are being treated in that country ? is this right? fifa has its own agenda has for years to many with their fingers in the pie on free junkets taking money out of the game which if reinvested at say grass roots here and abroad would really benefit the game , great job if you can get it bit like our euro mps but thats another story , should keep politics out of football but its hard to when so much s... happens around our so called beautiful game , to much money sloshing around these over over blown commities and who votes them in ? rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nothing will shake the Russian bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 2022 world cup is being investigated by the FBI alledged allegation of payment to some fifa members after awarded to Qater , about time this happened , watch the papers still could be awarded to another country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes, I noticed that, too. It's about time this insane and obviously corrupt awarding of the tournament to Qatar was investigated by somebody. As for Russia, there are apparently some political voices in the USA calling on FIFA to look for an alternative venue in 2018. With any luck, the voices might grow much louder and more insistent. This could all turn out to be quite interesting. I certainly hope so, at any rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangle Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Don't believe all the propaganda about the Russia/Ukraine crisis you are fed by TV, and especially the newspapers. There are things happening in Ukraine that you do not know about, and "the West" has taken their side. It is an absolutely awful, sickening situation over there, and rather than fall out with Russia, the West should be working with them to resolve the situation. Football has no bearing on this, and a boycott is futile, and would do nothing for the suffering in Ukraine, that continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripper Stebson Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ah good old Politics and Religion the Opium of the People. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Nobody suggested boycotting the USA-based World Cup because they are a nation of imperialist running dogs who havecorrupted the earth with the most lowbrow culture since Sparta, so why attack Putin ? Compared to some of theadministrators of Cornish football, he's a democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted April 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Ah, yes, the loathsome and hateful USA. What have they ever done for us? Apart from ensure our security since 1945, that is. Perhaps that might be one of the reasons nobody suggested boycotting USA'94. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how events unfold over the next few years, because I doubt that Georgia and Ukraine are the only countries that Putin sees as ripe for invasion. What about the three Baltic States? Hell, why don't the Russians go the whole hog and re-invade eastern Europe in its entirety again? Seriously, why not? With a socialist in the White House these days, who in the West is going to have the stomach to prevent them doing precisely what they please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangle Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Talking of invasions then, what about the illegal invasion of Iraq? Or does that not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 The Commonwealth Games in Edinburgh this year, are a celebration of how Britain invaded and controlled dozens of Nations across the Globe back in the day... do those countries boycott the games or come and enjoy a sporting event ? The boycott of the Moscow 1980 Olympics was due to the Commie invasion of Afghanistan, that of course should have given the west a clue about the peoples of that area, leave well alone, they are undefeated against allcomers. I have no problem with the Russian FA, I doubt they sanctioned the invasion of Crimea, didn't the Yanks try to take a small Caribbean Island, Grenada, for no other reason that they had no war on that year ? Qatar is something different, there is no way that World Cup was awarded on any sporting merit, that is the one to boycott if we actually qualify of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Ah, yes, the loathsome and hateful USA. What have they ever done for us? Apart from ensure our security since 1945, that is. Perhaps that might be one of the reasons nobody suggested boycotting USA'94. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how events unfold over the next few years, because I doubt that Georgia and Ukraine are the only countries that Putin sees as ripe for invasion. What about the three Baltic States? Hell, why don't the Russians go the whole hog and re-invade eastern Europe in its entirety again? Seriously, why not? With a socialist in the White House these days, who in the West is going to have the stomach to prevent them doing precisely what they please?because of the USAFAh yes, the apologists for this island becoming Airstrip One and Target One because of the USAF. Bellyaching because the90% Russian population of the Crimea want to be Russian. Sounds fair enough to me. Unlike this country, where the Cornish have been reduced to a subject people in an English colony.If only the socialist in the White House was enough to change his state. Unfortunately not. As Trotsky correctly stated, armed struggle is essential. That is why the People's Republic of St Just will always offer unconditional support torevolutionary anti-capitalist actions. Proud to say my daughter is in Ecuador making contacts as I write.Bandillero Rosso Triomfera ! Viva socxialismo et la Libertad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 The Commonwealth Games in Edinburgh this year, are a celebration of how Britain invaded and controlled dozens of Nations across the Globe back in the day... do those countries boycott the games or come and enjoy a sporting event ? The boycott of the Moscow 1980 Olympics was due to the Commie invasion of Afghanistan, that of course should have given the west a clue about the peoples of that area, leave well alone, they are undefeated against allcomers. I have no problem with the Russian FA, I doubt they sanctioned the invasion of Crimea, didn't the Yanks try to take a small Caribbean Island, Grenada, for no other reason that they had no war on that year ? Qatar is something different, there is no way that World Cup was awarded on any sporting merit, that is the one to boycott if we actually qualify of course. Nemesis, I looked on the Grenada incident as a bullying exercise by the USA, that was until I went to Grenada and spoke to the locals about it, to my surprise the Granada people look upon the Americans as their saviours in restoring their freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes, strange that, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Where will the boycott be asked for in the future? A number of Caribbean Islands I have visited and those nearby are being influenced commercially by the Chinese, I have contacts in a few African countries Zambia being one where the Chinese took over the construction of a 4000 mile rail line from the copper belt to the sea which building was being controlled by my son in laws dad until he died. The Chinese will soon control most of Africa's untapped wealth, there is corruption everywhere. I remember my teacher at Truro Secondary Modern saying in the 1040's "Beware of the yellow peril when they decide to expand around the world" it's taken them a while but now they are on the move. I came back from Portugal 2 weeks ago, they are proposing to do the same as the Spanish, Italians and others are doing now and that is if the Chinese want to settle there they will be given citizenship provided they have 500,000€, my concern for my grandchildren etc is will that open the door for then to use that citizenship to settle in Britain, I have not heard any of our politicians query what's going on but there is strong feeling abroad that with 27% unemployment levels the Mediterranean countries could soon experience a mass exodus of people coming to Britain, maybe we should boycott everyone have our own world cup and win it every year without playing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangle Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Go ask the people of Crimea what they think of Russia. You may find a "Grenadian" kind of reply.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Qatar is a human rights issue workers dying to get the World Cup on , workers living in terrible conditions and what are FIFA doing about it sweet fa does not matter who qualifies for this tournament should never have been given to them , more to come yet on the situation FIFA bunch of bloody fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Ah good old Politics and Religion the Opium of the People.. Love the name gripper Must have been a grange hill fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well splatter has come out and let slip that they should not have awarded the 2022 cup to qater Talk about bolting the stable door , this so called committee runs world football , are they fit for purpose? Don't think so ? Couldn't arrange a pee up in a brewery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 2022 world cup is being investigated by the FBI alledged allegation of payment to some fifa members after awarded to Qater , about time this happened , watch the papers still could be awarded to another country Yes, I noticed that, too. It's about time this insane and obviously corrupt awarding of the tournament to Qatar was investigated by somebody. As for Russia, there are apparently some political voices in the USA calling on FIFA to look for an alternative venue in 2018. With any luck, the voices might grow much louder and more insistent. This could all turn out to be quite interesting. I certainly hope so, at any rate! FIFA in the news again more allegations of corruption payments to officials won't go away looks like no smoke without fire , how far to the top does it go? How can this so called football body carry on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 They're the same as the old boys network, bankers, politicians, and so on, they will be where they are long after we're gone. Money talks, always has done always will....we don't have it ....they do, and with it comes all the say. They may throw an occasional lamb to the slaughter...but it won't change a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 They're the same as the old boys network, bankers, politicians, and so on, they will be where they are long after we're gone. Money talks, always has done always will....we don't have it ....they do, and with it comes all the say. They may throw an occasional lamb to the slaughter...but it won't change a thing. Yes, that's all very true, but I'm still hoping that some good can come out of the current exposure of the corruption around Qatar 2022. Without any question at all, an alternative venue needs to be found, and sooner rather than later. Otherwise we face the prospect of God knows how many domestic and European seasons being disrupted for the sake of a tournament that will still turn out to be an absolute farce. It's bad enough that the next one will be in Russia. Qatar cannot be contemplated as a venue, even for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 FIFA is just a job for the boys. They will never change. Just like the EU, jobs for the boys. We used to run the game very well thank you until money got in the way. FIFA is corrupt, the EU is corrupt. So whats new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I agree with all of that ecpl. Shoot he lot, give it back to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 And to top it off blatter. Wants another term , the neck of the guy , he has the hide of a rhino , just shows it's not about football any more it's a huge cash cow , perhaps the countries should get together and boycott the next World Cup qualifiers and see how that affects their pockets of this chinless wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Its an historical fact, these people die in post, the truth comes out later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Most of European football turning against blatter , and then he turns around and says the media is racist , priceless they don't even impose big sanctions on teams who's fans have been really racist with chants at games , what an ego he has , more twists and turns over the coming months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 He's in the old boys club, now't will move him. He has to die in post to avoid the corruption being exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 I've got a better idea ! Let's qualify then lose our first two games in protest That'll show em' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BALD ONE Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Just because we are not too good does not mean we should not support our team surely.I was too young to see 1966 but to be honest I have not seen many good England teams. I am still proud to be English and will support them never the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now