Bowks and Hewey say goodbye to Bickland!

[Bazzer]

What can anyone say regarding the Falmouth situation?,talk about birds coming home to roost.

Falmouth have always been at the forefront for paying players and I well rember them taking the entire Newquay team ,and in most cases they were getting double what Newquay paid.

Paying players at this level should stop now ,only genuine travel expenses should be paid ,it should only take the top paying clubs to get together and say enough is enough and players could then play for the loyalty of the club.

If stupid amounts were not being paid to players, the monies saved could be used to improve facilities,youth structures from where club loyalty should come.

[Guest st george9]

never going happen bazzer.clubs will always pay to attract the top players and win the trophys, the days of turning out with pride for your home town club are gone...

[jollyman]

Spot on Bazzer !

I only ever played for Newquay and for the decade or so I have been involved in Cornish Footy, I have seen a million players and managers come and go both at my club and at the various oppositions I have faced at both SWL and Combo level. I have no doubt that money is the route of most problems with Cornish football and damages the foundations and structure of what is an otherwsie excellent set up.

Loyalty is damaged...and even those who arent chasing a pay packet end up leaving clubs for reasons connected with money...i.e. the manage has left or their friends have moved on.

Having spent several years playing in the Lancashire amateur Leagues, It was always a dissapointment at this level to not have the same spirit and loyalty of players running through the very heart and lungs of every team.

Cut the money...and let people chose their teams because they live locally or love the club and not because they are paying more than your current club.

Did someone not workout once that over £500,000 was spent on players wages in one season in Cornwall ? That would have been a lot of rebuilding, floodlights, training facilities etc...

[Grant]

Why not play post code football? Every team must have at least 7/8/ players in their squad from a local postcode (say within 10 miles)!!! The structure of cornish football is poor. Thety split the south western league when it was at its strongest, now look.

I remember a few seasons ago Bodmin going from bottom of the south western league by miles to winning it the season after. Success is often short lived with no player loyalty. The best two teams around for me are launceston and wadebridge, now being hunted down by newquay and other local teams. A good local(ish) team that has stayed together and got results over the past few years with a smaller budget than others. Do players really care about winning or just how much money they can earn. I don't blame the players, its cracking money, but why do clubs want to spend out so much money to win a league and then not take promotion? Its all about ego's - but we play football in cornwall step whatever!!!!

I think that teams should rename themselves, as Bodmin Town ,as an example is not BODMIN TOWN!!!

Anyway I'm still waiting on falmouth line up please. :thumbsup:

[Whistleblower]

The C.C.F.A. should step in,those players that refused to play last night should be banned for the rest of

the season.

[Pete Tully]

The C.C.F.A. should step in,those players that refused to play last night should be banned for the rest of

the season.

Guessing it'll be an internal issue. I know at our club if a player refuses to play for one team then they can be banned from playing for any team within the club that week.

[Guest Postie Pidge]

Come on pidge, those boys gave everything this season, it's not they're fault and I think they feel a bit let down at the minute!

How do you think I felt on the morning of the game with no manager and no players! I felt let down when I heard that the players "boycotted" the game. I admire and respect those who did play and here is the lineup:

Chris Symons

Casey Adams

Sam Hunter

Richard Kellow

Adam Trudgian

Felipe Rodriguez

Neil Slateford

Chris Peck

Bobby Bryant

Matt Drummond

Alex Miller

Subs:

Stuart Peters (for Rodriguez)

James Parkinson (for Adams)

Darren Friend (for Miller)

[r_and_l]

what no dave Rawlings pidge is he injured or one of the people that refused to play??? cause the latter doesnt sound like the dave I know!!

[Grant]

Sam but no tom hunter or squires?

[Guest Moorzy]

As far as i know, every player that didn't play last night had left the club along with, and in support with the managers. As to the ones that played and i have spoken to, they were threatened by the club that they wouldn't be released if they didn't play but there 7days would be waved if they did play last night, i believe most of them now won't be playing saturday.

I have spoken to nearly every player and all of them are not happy that they have been slated(on hear), threatened(over the phone with being released, guilt tripped or heard their mates accused that they don't believe are true by certain people within the club(who are showing their true colours now).

Every player as their own right to decide whether they want to play, leave or retire.

[whitehot]

As a concerned Town supporter, I'm really worried at the latest turn of events. The club has seemed to be slowly disintegrating for years with the dilapedation of the ground and the apparent ineptitude of the Social Club to support the main reason for being....ie FOOTBALL. I don't know the all the ins and outs of the budget and commitee politics, but one of the biggest points is the focus of the Social Club, which is callled FALMOUTH TOWN Social Club.

You need to get the local clubs back in there after Saturday footer and make the whole club a hub of the local football scene and the Town (it's no good having a happy hour 9-10 when all the players have left!). Get it buzzing again...appoint a manager to run it!!!

Sorry to bang on too much about the club but these places are the lifeblood of the Cornish football clubs (or should be).

Up the Town!

[slugger]

as a falmouth town club player i am disapointed with the way things have turned out ,but at the end of the day thats between comitee and managment . my reasons 4 my absence on wed were told to the manager at present brian wheely .most important thing to me at the mo is 2 win sat x

[Vicki]

Well said Whitehot. Where were you at the AGM on Wed (when the 1st team had a match in Plymouth)? Were you one of the travelling band of supporters disenfranchised by the decision to hold the AGM on the same night as an away fixture or were you one of the many who didn't know the AGM was on through lack of advertising?

[The Villains]

How much were they being paid (weekly or per game)? If, as its been stated / quoted they have mortgages to pay and kids to raise and they were relying on the football wages to pay for it, then its no wonder that the club are in so much trouble.

As for, as posted, refusing to play........ If they pay your wages, the club has every right to expect you to play, if you dont, they have every right not to pay you and to be honest to fine you as well!

Maybe there should be a limit on how much you can pay the "super stars"!

Hopefully it will be sorted out and the right solution found.......... good luck..........

Well said Whitehot. Where were you at the AGM on Wed (when the 1st team had a match in Plymouth)? Were you one of the travelling band of supporters disenfranchised by the decision to hold the AGM on the same night as an away fixture or were you one of the many who didn't know the AGM was on through lack of advertising?

Great planning by the club...........

People cant be in 2 places at the same time........

[snake]

AGM on the same night as a game just sums up the Falmouth Town. Its a complete joke the way the club is run.

One recent example. Popped in to the club at half time during the Clyst game to see half time scores only to find RUGBY on the T.V. No scores anywhere to be seen !!

A few years ago Town played Launceston on a Sunday. Launceston clinched the league title on that day. Whilst celebrating in the club after they were told to be quiet because the Bingo was on !

When they left the Falmouth fans got the blame for being noisy and there was a bit of trouble.

I could go on and on.

The club is an absolute shambles and always has been its a wonder we have had any success.

Will never forget the way Trevor Mewton was treated after a season when they only lost 4 games.

Somebody please sort it out before it becomes an extension to Tregonnigie industrial Estate !!

[Guest Damian Stevens]

All this sounds oh so familiar ! in my 10 or so years at Truro City the budget was cut at least twice to my memory and then you get the usual exodus of players ( usaully non locals ) , the sad thing is you knew in your own own mind which players would leave and which ones would stay , i was always right ! my opinion was ( and still is ) that you are better off without these 'primadonas' who do NOT have the best interest of the club but there own pocket.

No one could ever accuse me of holding a club to ransom over money , i was just gratefull to receive what ever the club gave me , it was a bonus in my eyes to play football and get paid! , this sadly does not happen any more and i have seen so many players ( average ones at that ) leave for £5 or £10 extra .

players move around so much now that they dont have any loyalty to the club they play for , meaning the badge they play for normally means nothing to them personally however they forget it does to the hardened supporters & commitee members . Maybe it was different 'back in my day' , i was brought up through the ranks at Falmouth town and then on to Truro City ( then back to Falmouth ) where you had loyal club players such as Tommy Matthews, Paddy Scrace,Graham Heard , Neil Phillips , Chris Webb, Dave Street who you looked up to and many more , how many players are there like that now?

At Falmouth Town back in 2001 season under Neil Phillips the budget was also cut half way through the season however no one left! the reason was we were all local players and we all wanted to stick 2 fingers at the then chairman! We battled on and finished a respectable 7th and won the charity cup beating Truro 1-0 , Falmouths last trophy!

So it doesnt have to be all doom and gloom as we showed 7 years ago with a reduced budget & local side, Falmouth need to go back to basics, a good manger with an eye for LOCAL talent is the way forward ( there is plenty out there ) at this moment in time. This would then increase the amount of supporters thus increasing revenue at the turn stiles and in the bar afterwards.

something should be done on the social side to get the local teams back using the club house after games like many teams did 10/15 years ago, the club house was buzzing back then! i dont know how but im sure someone can think up some incentive for the local teams to use Falmouths club house?

Town will be back however it may take a season or two .

[Mark Jones]

Hi Damien i know you play for Mawnan now! As a local player what incentive do you think could encourage teams like Mawnan to come back to Falmouth social club after a game? There are also local teams like Athletic who use Four Winds. And Fal Albion who use Rugby club. What incentives can be used to bring these players in on a Saturday to get the place buzzing? Dose anyone have any opinions on local teams using the club?

[Guest Damian Stevens]

Falmouth should be looking into this ! An example ,we at Mawnan drink at the Clipper Way after a game and Athletic at the Four Winds , a pint of lager there is £3.00 and im sure its cheaper at Towns clubhouse by quite a bit , maybe 50p cheaper ( credit crunch and all that , everything helps! ) maybe a happy hour between 6 & 7pm may be an option. The fact that Falmouth Albion drink at a RUGBY club is an insult to any football club! why ?

food is something which needs to be looked at also , im sure some deal can be offered to local teams. i really dont know the answers but maybe these ideas can help.

[Julian Chenery]

To add the the previous comment, we at St Stephens Borough use the Saltash United Social Club after our home games.

They kindly put on food for us and contribute towards the pitch fees.

We also have the use of the club for social functions and our AGM.

Saltash United benefit from having two sides and officials / supporters back after the game.

Personally, I think its great going back to a football club where you can share results with the Saltash United teams and socialise with other footballers / football people.

[HarryPWH]

All this sounds oh so familiar ! in my 10 or so years at Truro City the budget was cut at least twice to my memory and then you get the usual exodus of players ( usaully non locals ) , the sad thing is you knew in your own own mind which players would leave and which ones would stay , i was always right ! my opinion was ( and still is ) that you are better off without these 'primadonas' who do NOT have the best interest of the club but there own pocket.

No one could ever accuse me of holding a club to ransom over money , i was just gratefull to receive what ever the club gave me , it was a bonus in my eyes to play football and get paid! , this sadly does not happen any more and i have seen so many players ( average ones at that ) leave for £5 or £10 extra .

players move around so much now that they dont have any loyalty to the club they play for , meaning the badge they play for normally means nothing to them personally however they forget it does to the hardened supporters & commitee members . Maybe it was different 'back in my day' , i was brought up through the ranks at Falmouth town and then on to Truro City ( then back to Falmouth ) where you had loyal club players such as Tommy Matthews, Paddy Scrace,Graham Heard , Neil Phillips , Chris Webb, Dave Street who you looked up to and many more , how many players are there like that now?

At Falmouth Town back in 2001 season under Neil Phillips the budget was also cut half way through the season however no one left! the reason was we were all local players and we all wanted to stick 2 fingers at the then chairman! We battled on and finished a respectable 7th and won the charity cup beating Truro 1-0 , Falmouths last trophy!

So it doesnt have to be all doom and gloom as we showed 7 years ago with a reduced budget & local side, Falmouth need to go back to basics, a good manger with an eye for LOCAL talent is the way forward ( there is plenty out there ) at this moment in time. This would then increase the amount of supporters thus increasing revenue at the turn stiles and in the bar afterwards.

something should be done on the social side to get the local teams back using the club house after games like many teams did 10/15 years ago, the club house was buzzing back then! i dont know how but im sure someone can think up some incentive for the local teams to use Falmouths club house?

Town will be back however it may take a season or two .

A great post. In I think 1999 - Ricky Cardew left Bodmin at short notice and players left very quickly, funnily enough I think Bowks was there then as well. As it was my home town club I stayed, played under Sean Hooper and thoroughly enjoyed it. To me there was a pride in playing for the town I had grown up in.

After moving 'up the line' in 2000 football has never been the same - I rarely play on facilities anywhere near the standard of the SWL (the players are as good) and when I tell people of the money involved down here they cannot believe it. The geography and lack of alternative leagues being what it is in Cornwall means that there is just the one league that any local businessman can put his money into when he wants to - this will always happen. Silly money will entice players, as will good pitches to play on but leaving a club in the lurch due to finances being cut does show a mercenary side to the Cornish football scene which must leave a bitter tase in the mouths of many a Club supporter / committee member. I wonder how the many volunteers on match day, the fundraisers, the people on the gate, the raffle ticket sellers feel when players happily take their 'expenses' yet leave the Club without a backward glance when the money dries up?

This is my personal opinion and I do resect the need for some people to supplement their income - but as Damian said - you always had a good idea who 'the envelope chasers were'.

Good Luck to Falmouth, a great club and they'll be back. :D

[Lafs]

A couple of very sensitive and sensible comments regarding Falmouth Towns current situation.

Just to add to these comments and to follow on from my previous post on this thread regarding my sympathy for the loyal supporters of such Clubs. I ask what message of incentive is sent out to the supporters to pay the admission fee, puchase a program or buy a 50/50 or raffle ticket before they even begin to dig deeper into their pockets at the tea hut or in the bar, when they see a majority of players these days collect their brown packet and yet dont spend a single penny at the Club they (proudly!?) represent!!!

This for me is just one simple way that Clubs could help themselves, by insisting that their players stick around after games in order for the supporters to become familiar with their teams players and therefore not begrudge spending their own hard earned cash whilst the merceneries do a "grab & run"!!

This was always "in my day" a winning policy that helped bring the supporters and players together come win, lose or draw and the main beneficiary of course were always the Clubs tills!

In a time of complete uncertainty for most people out there, who can afford let alone be prepared to splash out to help their Clubs cause whilst watching these mercenary strangers arrive at their beloved Clubs, play football and bugger off regardless of their performance or result, with a bulge in their back pockets?!!

This may not go down very well with some players, Clubs or officers/organisers at Clubs but quite frankly I believe it is far too easy to sit on arses and wait in hope for a sugar daddy to come along, which we all know has a shelf life!!

Wherever I have played or managed/coached, the "off the field" has always been as important as the action on it and often contributes to any form of success. Two very good examples of this successful formula presently in place has already been mentioned in Wadebridge and Launceston and credit must go to the people behind the scenes for creating the "buzz". Others that appear to be of similar nature are Porthleven, Newquay and St Austell.

Two managers I have been fortunate enough to play for who had a similar ability were Leigh Cooper at Truro City and Gary Penhaligon at St Austell and Falmouth Town. I like to believe we tried to emulate this last season at St Blazey and im sure it was aknowledged and appreciated by the Club and their supporters that the team almost always returned to the Clubhouse after away fixtures and were at times last to leave the Clubhouse after home fixtures!! It just creates good relationships between Clubs-Supporters-Players and in return, surely creates a good ethos.

This can only happen when the heart of the team is a local based group of players which allows the rest to be made up from a bit further afield.In my line of work I know its imperative to get this in order first or risk failing or struggling if you dont!

A time for Clubs to go back to basics and develop for the long term survival and not the short term success and the best tools to ensure long term success is the devlopment of youth. Just my personal opinions!!

Lafs

[Guest Peppermint]

Some excellent and thought provoking comments from people who have clubs interest at heart.

Lafs mentions that some clubs are trying to generate a squad of players that pull on their club's shirt with pride and kindly includes Newquay amonst the clubs.

We are indeed fortunate at Mount Wise this season because we have a great bunch of players who are almost exclusively local and after matches they are in the Clubhouse watching a Premiership match and even stay on for the entertainment. This sort of loyalty is down in no small part to the lead given to them by our management teams like Jim Hilton, Lee Hawkey, Andy Bicknell, Matt Darwent and Winno.

It makes the running of a club so much easier and rewarding when we have this sort of attitude and the Clubhouse certainly seems to have the right atmosphere and I can only wish Falmouth Town[a club with great traditions], the very best of luck in turning this situation around.

[Jasa]

I think one of the main reasons is that the majority of players now who get paid do not come from the same town as the club, or anywhere near. This would therefore mean that many would therefore drive to matches and I can't see many people willing using up their Saturday nights drinking coke all night without at least a few beers.

I do think it is wrong that people get paid then go as soon as they have taken their money. Many people would play for Man United for free if they had the chance, so why do we expect money at a nothing Cornish level?

[claret&blue]

The situation at Bodmin was slightly different in that the committee had gone behind the managers back to find a replacement whilst we were 2nd in the old SWPL and had just beaten Keynsham of the Western League in the Vase, it had nothing to do with budget cuts. I spent 7 seasons at Bodmin and any money received in expenses was spent in the club before 8pm that evening!

[Lafs]

Jasa, try telling the loyal supporters of any Cornish clubs that they are "nothing"! All Clubs have a rightfull place no matter what league, level or County they are in.

The main reason certain players travel beyond their home town Clubs and areas to further affield Clubs is because they are being subsidised for doing so! Secondary, they are in search of success and believe they will gain it at these Clubs they are travelling to. I would predict that alot of these Clubs are being funded by a sugar daddy and aslong as they continue to fund, the Club is fine. As soon as that one benefactor pulls his funds, thats when the trouble starts for the Clubs!

The responsibility really lies with the Officers of Clubs to deny or allow this route to be taken and assess the risk of doing so. And this is why I say the safest and healthiest route for them is how I previously stated by targeting local players with a mixture of young talent. All Clubs have a certain element of good local and young talent, they just need the right people and facilities in place to attract them and hope that the "big boys with budgets" dont steal them.

Money hey, what a dangerously pleasant thing it is to have!!

[Kettle]

All this is obvious stuff, not rocket science. I remember a few months ago a former manager coming on this forum and talk about sustainability, the same manager that decimated the local players in his former squad for those he thought would win him the title. The same players who drive away with big fat back pockets without a thought for the club that pays them. Boom and bust for what? Club Chairmen and committees need to take a stand and not resort to this kind of approach, get your grounds sorted out and build from the base of local talent, use your youth set ups and second teams, generate some local interest.

Just a thought!

[Guest Postie Pidge]

Dave Rawlings was unavailable on Wednesday but will be back for tomorrows game (weather permitting)

[Whistleblower]

All the attention is being focused on the players,but what about the commitee,they're the ones responsible

for the finances,is nobody gonna face the music over this?

I think the players could've played on Wednesday at least,the club has been paying them all season,yet when the club was on its knees,they stuck two fingers up to it.

O.K. they have a choice to play or not,they chose not to,what does that say about them,i'm sure if they'd

played wednesday and then left,most people would have understood.If not for the club,for the supporters,

who stood by the team at the start of the season,and who's money helped to fill those brown envelopes.

Or are they so far up their own arses the meagre supporter means nothing!

Is the game on tomorrow,where does this leave the 2nd and 3rd teams?

[Rick Mathews]

Is Alan Carey confirmed as new manager?

Falmouth til I die

[Whistleblower]

Awesome if he is.

Amazing ain't it,bottom fell out of club on Tuesday,yet here we are Friday,and A C is possibly the new man in

charge.Bring it on!

[whitehot]

Hey Dame! Hope you get a result this PM and score some points in the onion bag!

Enjoy yourself entertaining those hairy-arsed rugger players tonite!

Super Leeds

[blackie]

quite right Lafs. I had the pleasure of running into Steve Kimberly chairman of Falmouth Town yesterday at Stamford Bridge (i'm not a chelsea fan but hey a good day out) and he told me that the financial position of Falmouth Town could not support the team expenses that they were paying out and they had to cut the budget. The players for whatever reason decided to leave; leaving the club with hardly any first team players a day before an important cup tie but i told him the future of the club was far more important than individual players.

It is a massive club with a fantastic history and one i was lucky enough to play for for 3 seasons in the 70's after their great team had broken up. When i was approached to play the last thing on my mind was the money, i would have played for nothing as i would have for Wadebridge.

The secret is to build your team around local talent, with a handful of quality players for elsewhere if needed; what is the point of signing on players who are not better than your local players. You can then achieve a great team spirit where players play for the club and stay through good times and bad. The basis of a good club should be founded around their local talent via their youth setup and their reserve team.

Falmouth under Bryn & Tommy now have the perfect opportunity to setup the club for the future without being under any pressure and i would bet that this time next year their fortunes will have changed dramatically as it is a great club to be involved with and i am sure that the managers will soon attract the best local talent without having to worry about too much money.

Good luck Falmouth and Bryn & Tommy.

[hansome dan]

could,nt agree more robbie,i put similar on another thread earlier.see you have signed one of our old youth players in dan magee,a good player who i,m sure you will improve further...wadebridge always been at the front in giving youth a chance

[dave the rave]

do i detect the dawning of a paradigm shift in the mentality of cornish foootball people.

lots of influencial club men seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet and i could.t agree more.

too many mercenary players are taking the piss out of clubs and their supporters which is in part down to managers wanting to buy success and well meaning but short sighted comittees who who put short term success ahead of long term progress.

you only have to look at st blazy who had the most money for years but as soon as the money dried up the manager left as did the players (mostly to Truro who suprise suprise had the most money). Blazy had no youth policy in place and became very ordinary very quickly although they do appear to have some financial stability.

buying success is shallow at the level that cornish football is at. Far better to build a club with substance and a sense of comminity spirit.

let the falmouth situation and the abysmal attitude of some of their players and management be a lesson to all.

Penzance, Perrenporth and Bodmin beware, u could be next

[Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD]

So the Falmouth fans have turned from slagging off the committee for pulling the budget (in order to save the club) to slating the money grabbing players who have now deserted them....

Swings and roundabouts, shame they tend to overlook the history of the clubs behaviour when it comes to paying huge amounts, didn't they 'buy' the hugely successful Newquay side of the 90's !!! Yes, you can say those players didn't show any loyalty to Newquay, but with a double your already good expenses offer, how could you blame them.

No sympathy from most Peppermints fans on this one !

[hammers]

Thankfully most pepermint fans are not like you Judge, as for your comments are not worth listening so to you

Hammers. :c:

[Guest Postie Pidge]

Swings and roundabouts, shame they tend to overlook the history of the clubs behaviour when it comes to paying huge amounts, didn't they 'buy' the hugely successful Newquay side of the 90's !!!

Was this the hugely successful side that in 1993/94 finished as runners up in the league (thus winning nothing) and came to Falmouth and won the League Cup in their first season?

[Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD]

Hammer, your choice of clubs to support says more about you than anything I could possibly say. Falmouth fans are so fickle, you have gone from blaming the committee for pulling the budget, which they have every right to do to save the club, to slagging off the money grabbing players who have abandoned the sinking ship. You are no longer the big time charlies and are heading in the opposite direction to The Peppermints - justice is restored in the universe !

Pidge me old mucker, lets have a look at records of both clubs upto that point shall we...

Newquay AFC

1992-93 SW 32 20 5 7 75 39 45 3/17

1993-94 SW 34 24 8 2 92 33 80 2/18 (lost title on GD)

and now Falmouth

1992-93 SW 32 15 6 11 77 51 36 6/17

1993-94 SW 34 20 10 4 75 43 70 4/18

After two seasons without a trophy, former player Ray Nicholls was appointed as manager. With an almost new team (NEWQUAY AFC), the SWL Cup was won in the first season with a 2-1 win over holders Bodmin Town.

I'd say that Newquay had the advantage over you during that period, no wonder you wanted to 'buy' our players !

[Mike Odgers]

Over 5000 views and 90 replies-how close is this topic to the record?

Whatever Falmouth Town do it is always News to the Cornish soccer following

[Grant]

Any news on where the falmouth players who are leaving are going to play for, or any speculation/rumours?

[Guest Roger]

This Topic must be a new record in terms of threads and views to date but I feel it is starting to become a primitive slanging match about who "stole" who and "why local footballers shouldnt get paid" etc. First of all lets face it " of course people would play for man utd for nothing seeing as they are one of the biggest teams in the world, but lets face it would we play for Man utd for nothing if they were local league? of course not, Do other professionals make a burning desire to play for Man utd for nothing? of course not. It's easy to see why people would want to play for the so called top teams whatever standard it is, quite frankly for the opportunity to win things, but secondly if a team is prepared to offer a player with more money then they are currently receiving to play for their team then it is a double incentive to join. Lets face it did Robinho leave Real Madrid to join Manchester City because of his LOVE for the club. I doubt it some what, he joined because Man City were prepared to pay him £160,000 per week. Now if next week their new owner decides to pull his money and only offer to pay him £5000 per week do you think he will stay? of course not and the January transfer window will attract big clubs towards him like flies around brown stuff. Therefore, irrespective of what standard people play its not right that people are judged if they leave a club in the long run if the money they receive for playing for a club which was one incentive that attracted them to the club in the first place is suddenly taken away. Falmouth Town's situation is unfortunate and sad but rumours are starting to fly that they had a healthy budget at the start of the season anyway that would have still catered for so called "big players" to sign but unfortunately it is led to believe that the budget that was presented to players at the start of the season was not an honest reflection of what was actually available. So were the new management enjoying some personal comforts of their own? What really attracted Brinton Nute back down to Falmouth???? (Robinho to Man City is very similar in my eyes)

[Guest Postie Pidge]

Pidge me old mucker, lets have a look at records of both clubs upto that point shall we...

Newquay AFC

1992-93 SW 32 20 5 7 75 39 45 3/17

1993-94 SW 34 24 8 2 92 33 80 2/18 (lost title on GD)

and now Falmouth

1992-93 SW 32 15 6 11 77 51 36 6/17

1993-94 SW 34 20 10 4 75 43 70 4/18

And the season before that when Falmouth pipped Newquay to the title by six points (?), a 3rd place in 1990/91 and two back to back championships before that. Shall I go on....

[Whistleblower]

Calling us Town fans fickle,you need to read the posts again pal,but not thru your Newquay tinted glasses.

Several of us have said we understand the players leaving,families to support etc.The gripe is they refused to play at Parkway at such short notice.

As for we still think we're a big club,don't all fans of football clubs think there's is the best?To quote Arsene Wenger"we all think we've got the prettiest wife".

[hammers]

Well said Whistleblower,

But remember the Judge will always want the last word, ask him what the Nequay fans think of him, from a lot of them you would not wish to put their replies onto this Forum maybe he could be a real nice chap if only he could get rid of his arrogant ways,

Hammers :c:

[Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD]

Pots, Kettles and black things Hammers !!! I didn't realise you were such an authority on what happens at lowly Newquay, not too sure you are in any position to make any comment when you can't even put your own house in order. Stop trying to deflect the thread away from your clubs problems and concentrate on helping put them right.

I may rub some people up the wrong way (not as many at Mount Wise as you may think) but if we were all keep our mouths shut and and do/say nothing, then you can guarantee that progress would be a lot slower. Thankfully, after some press attention some 18 months ago, the Newquay club has got its act together, changes behind the scenes have meant that the right people are now in the right places and Peppermints fans can look forward rather than live on past glories.

We will wave to you as we pass you by :Santa:

[sven gordan (eric's son!)]

whats the difference players not playing at such short notice and the club pulling the money at such short notice surely they knew they were in trouble when they chucked a bunce and nutey? yeah in my eyes they shoud've have played but its works both ways, you expect the players to be loyal so the club should have a little bit of loyalty to the players too, if it were me i would've played just an opinion!