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Bruegel the Elder

Ban the International break

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It's about time that the international break was stopped for Premier and Championship leagues and their equivalents elsewhere.

All clubs that field international players have a big enough squad to put a team on the pitch while their internationals are playing for their countries. It would encourage clubs to develop more home grown players and produce a more level "playing field" for a few weekends through the season. 

Come on F.I.F.A. make the game a bit more interesting!

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Well lets look at it this way. When you watch the England team - are the clubs involved really going to miss those players ? The best players in the Premier League are mostly foreign nationals. :mellow:

Personally I think that the international break flatters the England players involved. The money they get paid certainly does. The teams who lose players to international matches will survive without them, history proves it.

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12 hours ago, baldy said:

Total rubbish. Premier clubs are allowed a squad of 25 only. Many (the better/richer) will have had just a handful at training this week.

Even with ten internationals plus the odd injuries this still leaves enough to play a game. Might just sharpen minds to limit the number of foreign players, thus cutting their exorbitant prices and spreading them a little more thinly amongst the lesser teams. Might even make the boring, predictable old premiership a little more exciting!

1 hour ago, Fanfare said:

The clubs pay the players wages and abolishing the break could mean the club v country debate raising its head with players opting out of representing their country.

Easily solved Fanfare, all players not available, once chosen for their country, can be considered injured and not eligible to play. The clubs may pay the players but the F.A. makes the rules!

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What a silly idea. You need only look at cricket at rugby where internationals decimate sides regularly. You'll end up with the 6-7th best team winning the league as they have a regular squad every week.

The other side to this is that clubs already pull players out of international friendlies to rest them as they own the players. You'll end up with a heavily decimated international squad as the 3rd choice option for each position is the best available.

You could just support a club that only stays in business because it has genuine fans who support and pay for tickets even when they're losing; Fans who don't rant on social media that they've had to travel as far as upstairs to bed when their team lose on TV in their front rooms not from the back end of nowhere in the U.K.

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If a player opted to play for their club after being selected to play for Cornwall, they would be suspended from playing. That was in the 1970s mind. That's why players from that era were put on contracts, making them ineligible for selection.

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On 04/09/2017 at 15:22, Fanfare said:

If a player opted to play for their club after being selected to play for Cornwall, they would be suspended from playing. That was in the 1970s mind. That's why players from that era were put on contracts, making them ineligible for selection.

I'm amazed Fanfare. If players were suspended for opting to play for club instead of Country - one wonders about the legality of that. Surely, if a player puts his club before Country for whatever reason, that is his prerogative. 

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Sadly, you are wrong KB. If as player is called up for his country, he is obliged to attend, even if he has expressed a wish to retire from international footy. If he does not, he will be banned for playing for his club. Happened exactly like that to Makelele at Chelsea and he played for France against his wishes.

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17 hours ago, baldy said:

Sadly, you are wrong KB. If as player is called up for his country, he is obliged to attend, even if he has expressed a wish to retire from international footy. If he does not, he will be banned for playing for his club. Happened exactly like that to Makelele at Chelsea and he played for France against his wishes.

I'd like to see that tested at law baldy. I cannot believe that you can be made to play for your country, or, face being banned from playing for your club, to whom you are contracted. These players are paid big money - they need to pay for a top barrister to test this at law. The only way they could be made to play for their country would be if this requirement was written into their club contract. Perhaps it is - would you know sir ?

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Whatever is written into a players club contract is superseded by FIFA rules or at least it was at that time. I have no knowledge of any player testing that in law so can only suppose it has not happened or else we would all know about it! Easily solved? by having internationals in late May/June. Oh, hang on, the Northern European teams are playing their domestic seasons then. No easy solutions. Don't get me started on the African Cup of Nations!

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9 hours ago, baldy said:

. Don't get me started on the African Cup of Nations!

Hey ho, let's not have any premiership games while that's on, or if one of the players is poorly, or..............! Any excuse for the grossly overpaid to have a weekend off and deprive the fans of their fix of footie!

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13 hours ago, Bruegel the Elder said:

Hey ho, let's not have any premiership games while that's on, or if one of the players is poorly, or..............! Any excuse for the grossly overpaid to have a weekend off and deprive the fans of their fix of footie!

Always football on. Doesn't stop once Sky turn their cameras off. 

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The amount of England players dropping out with injuries before this weekends game is amazing. It will be interesting to see how the newcomers (?) will get on. We are playing a friendly - do the opposition know it's a friendly ?!

Internationals, if we must have them, should be played after the season's ended - in my opinion. That way injuries would not have such an affect on Premier League teams who, lets face it, pay a player's salary.

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Go to Uefa.com and read all about it. UEFA Nations league. All 55 national teams playing mini-leagues with play offs for the winners and seeded into 4 bands. With promotion and relegation and some qualification for the next Euros included. An interesting read, someone has been burning the midnight oil trying to understand it but got there in the end.

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What are the advantages for national associations and teams?

 

National associations and coaches, in consultations with UEFA, revealed that they feel that friendly internationals are not providing adequate sporting competition. The UEFA Nations League creates more meaningful and competitive matches for teams and a dedicated calendar and structure for national team football.

Top teams can also aspire to take part in the UEFA Nations League Finals, a new top-level event.

For middle-ranking and smaller nations, the UEFA Nations League will offer an extra way to qualify for UEFA EURO final tournaments. Lower-tier countries – the bottom 16 in the rankings – are now guaranteed one of the 24 qualifying slots for UEFA EURO.

Lower-ranking teams who have struggled against sides ranked considerably higher than them will now get the chance to take part in balanced matches. Teams do not learn and progress by repeatedly losing; now some sides will start winning.

While the UEFA Nations League will replace most friendly internationals, there will still be space in the calendar for friendlies, especially for top teams who may want to face opposition from outside Europe as they will be in groups of three teams.

Associations and teams benefit from clarity of the fixture calendar, and there is now a clear buffer between the end of the UEFA EURO and FIFA World Cup, and vice versa, as well as stability of income.

 

What are the advantages for supporters?

 

Supporters more than most realise that most friendlies fail to deliver competitive and meaningful football. Now they will have the opportunity to see their teams play in more competitive matches, take part in a new competition and get a second chance to qualify for the major tournaments.

In every even year there are World Cup or UEFA EURO champions; now in every odd year there will be a UEFA Nations League winners. Football is about competition and now, just like in club football, there will be a national team champion at the close of every season.

 

Will this mean more demands on players and clubs?

 

No: the UEFA Nations League and European Qualifiers will adhere to the existing agreed international match calendar. UEFA is always keen to preserve the balance between club and international football. The new competition should, in fact, reduce demands on players and clubs with less travel envisaged for friendly games while national teams will be playing more consistently at their own level. With double-header matchweeks, players will even go back to their clubs earlier than is currently the case.

 

Is this just about generating more revenue?

 

No, finances are not a driver for the new competition. However, the competition will have the same centralised media rights as have recently been introduced for all European Qualifiers so associations will have even more stability in their income.

 

Will there be no more friendly internationals?

 

There will certainly be fewer friendly internationals and undoubtedly fewer meaningless friendlies. However, there will still be space in the calendar for friendly internationals – particularly warm-up matches for final tournaments. UEFA is also keen that European teams will still have the chance to play opponents from other confederations

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This goes back to one of my pet topics .. The powers that be are aware that club football esp CL is more popular than internationals. This is an attempt to  raise the profile. A good attempt but I don't think it will have a significant impact. 

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