Mr.T Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Today on teletext Mr.Heaney tried to blame HMRC for all the problems in smaller clubs ..I may be missing the poiint but if your taxes were paid would that not solve your problems? -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 One assumes he didn't vote Labour at the last election. He thought he had mates, but forgot they don't play footy at Eton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The point i'm trying to raise is that clubs being investigated by HMRC in Cornwall is nothing new,i'm sure several clubs have been looked at in the past.So why blame HMRC ? :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Actually they do play football at Eton and to a high standard. My year 10 teams (Truro School) have played Eton on two occasions in recent years, both home and away, and we were comprehensively beaten. Your club manager will be able to confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Yeah, I can see the Ginger whinger and the Gov't front benches using jumpers for goalposts. Sarcasm is wasted on those who are brainwashed. Pay up, all of it, and stop flippin moaning. We all have bills to pay, unless you cheat of course, or a high income bracket tax dodger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 you cant have a mirror in your house, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I wouldn't bother too much Truros Mr Mourinho, even with the water crisis you could brainwash most of those posting here and still have some water left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 If i recall correctly Mr Heaney's press release blames the non payment of tax on a sponsor who has failed to stump well over £100k - who the hell is that? Does anybody actually believe that to be the case? If it is then why not name them or could it be one of KH's own companies? Either way, as you keep paying wages, the PAYE/NI owed to HMRC keeps accumulating (as does VAT) so unless you keep paying when due on a monthly/quarterly basis this problem will just keep recurring and the penalties/interest keep being added on - and the more often you default on payment the higher those penalties get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Tater Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 At home games they often announce two sponsors: Cornish Land and Truro & Penwith College. I'm not sure how a college has money to sponsor a football team! I imagine a college could do with £100,000 to spend on educational things and its taxpayer's money anyway so surely not meant for sponsoring a football team - for what in return? Which leaves Cornish Land which is one of KH's companies. You'd think HMRC would know that so when he tells them a major sponsor hasn't coughed up they could say to him, "so your club is short of cash because your company hasn't paid your club the promised sponsorship money"! I wonder which company executive made the promise of the cash in the first place and/or has failed to pay up? The company should sack him! Oh, no, wait a minute............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARA Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Today on teletext Mr.Heaney tried to blame HMRC for all the problems in smaller clubs ..I may be missing the poiint but if your taxes were paid would that not solve your problems? I was always told,there are only two things certain in life,you pay your tax and you die. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 no 3 things, people like you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 So why not pay the tax bill now and avoid all the speculation like last time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 why waste tax payers money by going to court again only to pay up at the last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 And along the way save themselves some as well. Plus try and use it as a public relations move to appease the tired club supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Do we know all the questions? .............................................. NO Do we have all the answers? ................................................. NO Do we have a solution for the unknown?................................ NO Without anything constructive to contribute the best thing is to shut up and keep quiet. All the silly talk in the world will not help, the impression is that most posting here would enjoy to see the demise of Truro City F.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Without anything constructive to contribute the best thing is to shut up and keep quiet. And then you wonder why people dislike Truro so much! Despite what you think you read, I think you'll probably find the majority of football followers in Cornwall do not want the demise of the club. But even you must admit Mountaineer the whole thing this season has been a public relations disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Do we know all the questions? .............................................. NO Do we have all the answers? ................................................. NO Do we have a solution for the unknown?................................ NO Without anything constructive to contribute the best thing is to shut up and keep quiet. All the silly talk in the world will not help, the impression is that most posting here would enjoy to see the demise of Truro City F.C. Mountaineer, you have your head buried firmly in the sand... or up someones backside. The man has had a nightmare weekend, his play team got beat at home, and his first love got beat by Chelsea - happy days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Mr Deacon, I have written about my visit to Treyew Road for Bromley yesterday, I did the same the previous week for Havant & Waterlooville so to contradict nemesis I am not burying my head in the sand or anywhere else, if my TigerTalk remarks about those games are read you could change your minds, this season has been a nightmare but I understand things may improve during the close season in readiness for the new season. I don't know what's planned but those who come on board with Mr Heaney need to have the ability to raise the standing of the club in the community. On Tigertalk I mentioned the job needed with the PR, I have done so all season, unfortunately I think hatred has set in within the community making it almost impossible, people who after spouting off about what was wrong at Truro City admitted they knew nothing about Truro City, many thought Truro City had already moved to Three Mile Stone, the rumourmongers have spread their poison far and wide. The lack of sponsors amazes me, Truro City's unique achievements would be an advertising agents dream starter, in happier circumstances I know I could sell Truro City, imagine what an experienced agent could do, with the travelling we do we are a National Product that can also boost what is good in Cornwall. We all know the score but it is not us who own the club, investors are unlikely, it would take more than a good PR to cut out the cancer that has been spread by the gossipmongers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 So sorry to disappoint, but it certainly has not been the fault of anyone but the man. The gossipmongers, or speakers of truth as they are commonly known in Cornwall, are only telling the wider world what the man wants to hide. I seem to recall he appointed a local PR firm, what a great job he / they did in promoting City, crowds dropped, credibility dissolved and any hope of forming a fanbase vanished as quickly as his company that owed money to local firms. One man ruined City, no one else can be, or should be blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Nemesis you must stop eating so many onions, you keep repeating yourself, I have asked you before where is your proof of anything illegal, companies experience reversals in fortune from time to time, people may feel the back lash, that's life, there is no industrial immunisation for people just because they happen to live in Cornwall When companies I worked for experienced similar downturns in fortune. I didn't run around like a headless chicken bemoaning my luck I like others accepted the situation and got on with life, working harder to make up for the thousands I had lost due to events beyond my control, those who were good enough to employ me didn't get off scot free. I wouldn't call playing in the Conference ruin, Truro are playing in the 2nd tier of ENGLAND's non-leaguue football not the 2nd tier of Cornwall's, I am aware Pyramid level 2 is light years ahead of level 7. We all know all is not well if rumour carries any truth, we also know it is up to those involved to sort out their differences, without the proof of any wrongdoing how can you JUDGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Nemesis you must stop eating so many onions, you keep repeating yourself, I have asked you before where is your proof of anything illegal, companies experience reversals in fortune from time to time, people may feel the back lash, that's life, there is no industrial immunisation for people just because they happen to live in Cornwall When companies I worked for experienced similar downturns in fortune. I didn't run around like a headless chicken bemoaning my luck I like others accepted the situation and got on with life, working harder to make up for the thousands I had lost due to events beyond my control, those who were good enough to employ me didn't get off scot free. I wouldn't call playing in the Conference ruin, Truro are playing in the 2nd tier of ENGLAND's non-leaguue football not the 2nd tier of Cornwall's, I am aware Pyramid level 2 is light years ahead of level 7. We all know all is not well if rumour carries any truth, we also know it is up to those involved to sort out their differences, without the proof of any wrongdoing how can you JUDGE. And if you believe that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Nemesis you must stop eating so many onions, you keep repeating yourself, I have asked you before where is your proof of anything illegal, companies experience reversals in fortune from time to time, people may feel the back lash, that's life, there is no industrial immunisation for people just because they happen to live in Cornwall When companies I worked for experienced similar downturns in fortune. I didn't run around like a headless chicken bemoaning my luck I like others accepted the situation and got on with life, working harder to make up for the thousands I had lost due to events beyond my control, those who were good enough to employ me didn't get off scot free. I wouldn't call playing in the Conference ruin, Truro are playing in the 2nd tier of ENGLAND's non-leaguue football not the 2nd tier of Cornwall's, I am aware Pyramid level 2 is light years ahead of level 7. We all know all is not well if rumour carries any truth, we also know it is up to those involved to sort out their differences, without the proof of any wrongdoing how can you JUDGE. And if you believe that... As I thought, Nemesis has no proof of wrongdoing so is left with his usual bluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Let's get back to the footballing issue here because as we all know, technically nothing illegal has been done by anyone. What has been damaged is the interest in Truro City FC in as much as people coming forward to invest, sponsor, help or buy the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I am pleased I have posted nothing to damage the image of Truro City F.C. reading past contri8butions from others, I wish they could say the same. To answer the question, ""Once again whats happening at Truro" I think we are safe to compete in Conference South next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish-blue Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 What has been done may not be illegal very very immoral , When your company owes local people money for work they have done, then claims its gone bust so you dont have to pay them, then you carry on paying out for Truro FC , is it a wonder the PR of the club is where it is. Had this not happened then perhaps the club would attract sponsership etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Reading a posting taken from the highly regarded Tony Kempster Forum regarding Forest Green Rovers, I couldn't help but see the similarity between them and Truro City...The very bottom reply is most interesting, how will that affect City next season and beyond. Still no answer on who owns the ground etc, perhaps none of the fans actually care, as long as they are at Step 2. I would suggest they are actually a step closer to going out of existence. There is a very good reason. It makes no financial sense whatsoever, so is irresponsible to both their fans and the Clubs they will be playing against. Also "bankrolling" is unfair on Clubs that don't have rich Chairman but are just well run and have a good supporter base. This can even apply at the highest level (eg:Rangers!). They (FGR) nearly went bust just trying to stay in the conference, which itself is beyond their means, but I agree with you in that since they got there (before the Conf became a "millionaires playground") under their own steam, they can have fun staying there, but really, a club that size going up to the League will only end one way. To me its astonishing in the current climate that so many teams have Chairmen that throw money at endless promotions beyond a level that they can sustain, racking up enormous debts (remember, Crawley and Fleetwood fans, your Chairman wont have "given" you all that dough, oh no, when he gets bored or his accountant tells him to stop or his business hits the rocks, suddenly your Club will discover it owes him all the money he "gave" you as it was a LOAN and now wants it back....). I think that from next season, these large loans will not be allowed. Money put into the club will have to be as share purchase, sponsorship or straight gifts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 You have to praise the chairman for his Ambition and drive, However, why lie to everyone? Ask Kevin how much he owes Jorma the kit supplier for Truro? The truth will come out soon on that one I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 mountaineer i am very pleased that truro have done so well on the field but!!! most things that come out of the club are negative,just look at all the loyal servants who have had to leave because ? this negativity will obviously stop sponsors from getting involved as they ownly want positive vibes. i do want to see a stadium for cornwall but one that is viable and in the right place. nobody would be more pleased than me to see a league team in cornwall but as the club is run at present it will not happen because your chairman is not liked, therefore he will not get the required support he needs from the people of cornwall. this is not me having a go at your beloved club these are just facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Mike Ashley was not liked at Newcastle, all of a sudden they are......... United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Mike Ashley was not liked at Newcastle, all of a sudden they are......... United. Yeah, they all love 'Sports Direct Arena' up in Geordie Land ! He may as well go the whole hog, perhaps something like 'Built, but not paid for Stadium' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You left one out "Z" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 No answers again chaps ? Boring ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 No answers again chaps ? Boring ! Nowt to moan about, we have Conference football again next season. H A P P Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/leaguetables/ ....(18) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 boring,just like all your posts zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margo Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Stewart Yetton <s>@</s>StewartYettonJust got back from Truro, cup of tea and 2nd half of Champs league!! Mull over my future whilst I'm at it!! ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Chown Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Nemesis, I know you have a dislike for what Mr Heany is doing at Truro City but do you have to go on about it on every topic. I say let Truro City do on with it, does it really effect your club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Stewart Yetton <s>@</s>StewartYettonJust got back from Truro, cup of tea and 2nd half of Champs league!! Mull over my future whilst I'm at it!! ????????? Nothing sinister, it is common knowledge, Lee Hodges will be talking to all the players shortly, it is normal for players to think about next season whilst nearing the end of the current one, recently when called upon to do so Stewart has worn the captain's armband with pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Nemesis, I know you have a dislike for what Mr Heany is doing at Truro City but do you have to go on about it on every topic. I say let Truro City do on with it, does it really effect your club. Didn't realise I had to stick to discussing my club. Either this is a forum on Cornish Football or it isn't, I choose to vent my spleen at the way one man at a football club goes about his business, amongst other subjects. You're the Admin, you decide who is morally right or wrong and make a choice, allow free speech or back the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Interesting news today that starting next season rich Chairmen/Owners of League clubs can not class any monies they put into the club as a loan.I believe this is starting in the Championship,will it filter it's way down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Reading a posting taken from the highly regarded Tony Kempster Forum regarding Forest Green Rovers, I couldn't help but see the similarity between them and Truro City...The very bottom reply is most interesting, how will that affect City next season and beyond. Still no answer on who owns the ground etc, perhaps none of the fans actually care, as long as they are at Step 2. I would suggest they are actually a step closer to going out of existence. There is a very good reason. It makes no financial sense whatsoever, so is irresponsible to both their fans and the Clubs they will be playing against. Also "bankrolling" is unfair on Clubs that don't have rich Chairman but are just well run and have a good supporter base. This can even apply at the highest level (eg:Rangers!). They (FGR) nearly went bust just trying to stay in the conference, which itself is beyond their means, but I agree with you in that since they got there (before the Conf became a "millionaires playground") under their own steam, they can have fun staying there, but really, a club that size going up to the League will only end one way. To me its astonishing in the current climate that so many teams have Chairmen that throw money at endless promotions beyond a level that they can sustain, racking up enormous debts (remember, Crawley and Fleetwood fans, your Chairman wont have "given" you all that dough, oh no, when he gets bored or his accountant tells him to stop or his business hits the rocks, suddenly your Club will discover it owes him all the money he "gave" you as it was a LOAN and now wants it back....). I think that from next season, these large loans will not be allowed. Money put into the club will have to be as share purchase, sponsorship or straight gifts There you go Mr T. I posted the above info on this very thread on 17th April. As per usual, the City Brainwashed brigade ignored it. Yes it will mean that clubs can no longer be used as a financial plaything by Chairman / Owners, it may also help the more vulnerable clubs find their true level without selling or borrowing against their grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Whilst spouting anti Truro clap trap some may be taking their eye off the ball concerning their own clubs, the HMRC are not daft, they will be looking closely at a few clubs who's financial fortunes have dramatically changed in the search for promotion. The Tony Kempster forums had a great reputation, that was based on what Tony did for non league football, however it should be appreciated that what appears on that forum now is no different than on others, now those posting (like on here) have their viewpoints on matters at times without substance, showing predudice and a certain amount of ignorance. One fact remains, loans made before any new rules that may come into force stand and not relevant to any new regulation. I think nemesis should be more concerned with the future of his club, those running things have a track record of being journeymen on their bikes when the money runs out. There's one thing in buying promotion from step seven but when they want a bigger budget and it's not there they just may be on their way. The Judge should continue to live in cloud cuckoo land because it'll all turn to tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Difference is, Truro are run by, and are totally reliant on one man and his dog. Newquay have a hard working committee, a very healthy youth policy, a lease on the ground until 2073, and we are realistic on what might be achieved with a limited budget. Who owns Treyew Road ? How much has been 'loaned' to pay for the clubs climb up the leagues ? What might happen if the 'loans' are called in ? As a Truro City supporter you should be concerned with these questions and more importantly, the answers that no one seems to have any clue about or in some pathetic cases, care about. Your attempts to distract the reader from the problems at your club and divert attention to Newquay, merely shows that you have not got a clue or seem to care about what happens to your club. With apologies to Mr Chown for my contribution to what is the biggest scandal in Cornish Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Difference is, Truro are run by, and are totally reliant on one man and his dog. Newquay have a hard working committee, a very healthy youth policy, a lease on the ground until 2073, and we are realistic on what might be achieved with a limited budget. Who owns Treyew Road ? How much has been 'loaned' to pay for the clubs climb up the leagues ? What might happen if the 'loans' are called in ? As a Truro City supporter you should be concerned with these questions and more importantly, the answers that no one seems to have any clue about or in some pathetic cases, care about. Your attempts to distract the reader from the problems at your club and divert attention to Newquay, merely shows that you have not got a clue or seem to care about what happens to your club. With apologies to Mr Chown for my contribution to what is the biggest scandal in Cornish Football. i do like the limited budget bit nemesis, there are probably a few who wouldnt be at newquay if it was a limited budget, but good luck to you, you have got money by working hard to do so and generating it in all the right ways so why not use it to your advantage, i would at my club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 nemesis, I wonder if you will be feeling good when your journeymen have continued the trend, perhaps they are running out of clubs. Confidence in Truro City is boosted by the loyalty of the players TEN of them have played in excess of 100 games for the club, from those SIX have played over 200, promotion through the leagues has been done with minimal tinkering of personal, SIX of the current team played in our Wembley winning season of 2006/2007. OUTSIDERS CAN KNOCK US but despite everything there is spirit in the club which bodes well for the future. When Saturday Comes I will have travelled in excess of 2000 miles THIS MONTH following Truro City, if I were unhappy I would become a stay at home follower from afar. I just hope you haven't eaten all the pasties before I get there on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Whilst spouting anti Truro clap trap some may be taking their eye off the ball concerning their own clubs, the HMRC are not daft, they will be looking closely at a few clubs who's financial fortunes have dramatically changed in the search for promotion. The Tony Kempster forums had a great reputation, that was based on what Tony did for non league football, however it should be appreciated that what appears on that forum now is no different than on others, now those posting (like on here) have their viewpoints on matters at times without substance, showing predudice and a certain amount of ignorance. One fact remains, loans made before any new rules that may come into force stand and not relevant to any new regulation. I think nemesis should be more concerned with the future of his club, those running things have a track record of being journeymen on their bikes when the money runs out. There's one thing in buying promotion from step seven but when they want a bigger budget and it's not there they just may be on their way. The Judge should continue to live in cloud cuckoo land because it'll all turn to tears. So if the Chairman did make any LOANS and called them in Truro would be broke,oh for hindsight. :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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