Ben Howard Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ok so I am quite new to cornwall and following cornish teams and perhaps i am missing something here, but can someone please tell me that what i heard at the st austell game on tuesday is a sort of april fool, is there really clubs at this standard paying £1000 per game can anyone tell me who this might be please there is clubs in the southern league not paying that. I find it laughable if this is true. Please be honest and let me know the true facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCooper Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 April Fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 There are big figures banded about all the time, clubs rarely pay out what is claimed, 50% or more will come from player sponsorship, donations to the playing fund and other incentives from outside sources. It is well know that certain clubs have Farmers, Publicans, Local Business owners etc who contribute as much as half of the players 'expenses' each game, the clubs themselves rarely have the income from the gate and bar to cover playing costs, most struggle to cover the match officials expenses.The only people who benefit, are the players with big egos and even bigger wallets. But, it is nothing new, it's been going on for 100 years or so down here, payments were huge in the 50's when some clubs in Cornwall went full blown Professional, can't see things changing anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Howard Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 hang so your saying that the clubs with the richest fans have more money to spend on players i think i met the farmer at st austell on tuesday seems pasionate about the club but wasnt aware he was putting money in mind you who was i to know that it went on . one more question for the forum doe the current league table reflect the money thats available to team, putting it bluntly does the current top 10 in the league = the top ten players expenses available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretscout Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Going through your previous posts, you appear to know a bit about managers histories considering you are "new to cornwall". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighter Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I wouldn't speak to any farmers that watch st Austell mate , they haven't got a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Howard Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 4 years in cornwall which is new to many i meet who still think iam just a northern tightarse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Howard Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I wouldn't speak to any farmers that watch st Austell mate , they haven't got a clue Not a clue but with plenty of money iam told knighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 hang so your saying that the clubs with the richest fans have more money to spend on players i think i met the farmer at st austell on tuesday seems pasionate about the club but wasnt aware he was putting money in mind you who was i to know that it went on . one more question for the forum doe the current league table reflect the money thats available to team, putting it bluntly does the current top 10 in the league = the top ten players expenses available No - I'm sure Godolphin Atlantic won't have one of the top ten budgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniachairmangodolphin Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Nope we don't our lads receive £20 a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Howard Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 pull the other one tania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Nope we don't our lads receive £20 a win Godolphin's policy could be a good lesson for other clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footycrazy15 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Godolphin players get £20 a win, £10 a draw & nothing for losing. In a perfect world no one would get or deserves to get paid at this level and below but the G have it as good as it can be. It's a subject mentioned on the forum so much it's beyond just being insipid. I'd argue 99% of mentions about it are just to wind people up. Unless a club comes out, like the G and says what it is spending then it is just a fruitless exposé. Goldophin obviously have other qualities than spending money and this is what has made it such a good successful grassroots club in such a short amount of time. I would love to seem them one day with more facilites and a good youth set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniachairmangodolphin Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 pull the other one tania pull the other one tania Nope we don't our lads receive £20 a win Godolphin's policy could be a good lesson for other clubsGot no reason to lie one hundred percent fact ask any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniachairmangodolphin Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 We have new grandstand new floodlights new dugouts and 4 youth teams with another 2 youth teams next season and an under 19 side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V J Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ben Howard WHO tells you all this stuff ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ivybridge, Saltash, Godolphin all pay what seems to be minimum these days, whilst Bodmin, St Austell & Parkway pay top dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dont bite Tania, he is looking for a bite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 To be fair, Macca went on the record in the press, in the very recent past, saying it was £25 for a win, £15 for a draw and nowt for a loss. A bit more than Tania has said, but it makes no difference which clubs you talk to, there will always be a difference in the amounts quoted, as they will rightly say, WTF has it got to do with anyone else ?As long as those who hold the purse strings can say to the club, we are not in debt come the AGM, then no one can complain, even better if you turn in a profit !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 £20 a win x a squad of 18-ish = £360/£400 a pop. 30 wins a season maybe = £12,000 !Tax man is going to love that !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniachairmangodolphin Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not biting just being 100% honest we have players that are not only quality players but quality lads who I for one have nothing but respect for and look upon as my family on and off the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish brazilian Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 A small point (for legal and taxation reasons), how can "expenses" be dependent on the result of a game?If HMRC read this, their suspicions may be confirmed.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAFC Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Does it really matter if the tax man finds out, because whatever is written on here is normally bollocks anyway. You could go and ask the same person watching a game today, that has posted on this feed, and they would tell you something completely different. It's all hear say, and who cares anyway. If a club or "a sponsor" want to pay someone the money and they have the means to do so, why not? Who else's buisness is it. You seem to be posting a lot of stuff on here recently Ben. You are probably the person making up these expenses amounts at the game and stirring your own rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish brazilian Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Does it really matter if the tax man finds out, because whatever is written on here is normally bollocks anyway. You could go and ask the same person watching a game today, that has posted on this feed, and they would tell you something completely different. It's all hear say, and who cares anyway. If a club or "a sponsor" want to pay someone the money and they have the means to do so, why not? Who else's buisness is it. You seem to be posting a lot of stuff on here recently Ben. You are probably the person making up these expenses amounts at the game and stirring your own rumours. There is a certain amount of rubbish talked on this site ( not uncommon on Internet forums) but there are also many well-considered and knowledgeable points made too. If you don't like the site or its content, you know what to do.Clearly what the Chairman of a club herself says is not "hearsay" - you're posiibly getting confused with the name of your favourite band ?Football exists in the wider world and revenues generated, salaries, payments and expenses etc. fall within the rules that apply to all businesses. Most of us pay income tax and national insurance on our earnings. I am convinced however that either the authorities locally view payments to players with a blind eye or simply haven't the resources to bother with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 If the player does not pay his tax, the club has to pay it.I agree with you mate, you get a few bob when you win or draw. If your club can afford it.Myself I think they should still pay subs, but I'm old, so to me that was normal.....ah well !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henning Berg Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 It is all relative. Clubs in London area and midlands of the non-league step 6/7 pay little if anything at all because there is so many teams playing at similar and much higher levels. To say SWPL teams pay as high money as some step 3/4 teams in those areas is fine because the SWPL Prem west/east is the best level available to players down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Does it really matter if the tax man finds out, because whatever is written on here is normally bollocks anyway. You could go and ask the same person watching a game today, that has posted on this feed, and they would tell you something completely different. It's all hear say, and who cares anyway. If a club or "a sponsor" want to pay someone the money and they have the means to do so, why not? Who else's buisness is it. You seem to be posting a lot of stuff on here recently Ben. You are probably the person making up these expenses amounts at the game and stirring your own rumours. There is a certain amount of rubbish talked on this site ( not uncommon on Internet forums) but there are also many well-considered and knowledgeable points made too. If you don't like the site or its content, you know what to do.Clearly what the Chairman of a club herself says is not "hearsay" - you're posiibly getting confused with the name of your favourite band ?Football exists in the wider world and revenues generated, salaries, payments and expenses etc. fall within the rules that apply to all businesses. Most of us pay income tax and national insurance on our earnings. I am convinced however that either the authorities locally view payments to players with a blind eye or simply haven't the resources to bother with themI know of several clubs in the SWPL and it's predecessors who were chased aggressively by the taxman, almost to the point of bankruptcy. The last Government made it's position on tax avoidance crystal clear. The next one, of which ever persuasion, will undoubtedly do the same, and when they look, they look hard and a long way back. Treasurers beware, your largess may well come back to bite you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Does it really matter if the tax man finds out, because whatever is written on here is normally bollocks anyway. You could go and ask the same person watching a game today, that has posted on this feed, and they would tell you something completely different. It's all hear say, and who cares anyway. If a club or "a sponsor" want to pay someone the money and they have the means to do so, why not? Who else's buisness is it. You seem to be posting a lot of stuff on here recently Ben. You are probably the person making up these expenses amounts at the game and stirring your own rumours. There is a certain amount of rubbish talked on this site ( not uncommon on Internet forums) but there are also many well-considered and knowledgeable points made too. If you don't like the site or its content, you know what to do.Clearly what the Chairman of a club herself says is not "hearsay" - you're posiibly getting confused with the name of your favourite band ?Football exists in the wider world and revenues generated, salaries, payments and expenses etc. fall within the rules that apply to all businesses. Most of us pay income tax and national insurance on our earnings. I am convinced however that either the authorities locally view payments to players with a blind eye or simply haven't the resources to bother with themI know of several clubs in the SWPL and it's predecessors who were chased aggressively by the taxman, almost to the point of bankruptcy. The last Government made it's position on tax avoidance crystal clear. The next one, of which ever persuasion, will undoubtedly do the same, and when they look, they look hard and a long way back. Treasurers beware, your largess may well come back to bite you! I totally agree. Any money received by a person thru earning or expenses is subjected to income tax and is treated as earnings by hmrc. Footballers are no exception to this rule and should understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Does it really matter if the tax man finds out, because whatever is written on here is normally bollocks anyway. You could go and ask the same person watching a game today, that has posted on this feed, and they would tell you something completely different. It's all hear say, and who cares anyway. If a club or "a sponsor" want to pay someone the money and they have the means to do so, why not? Who else's buisness is it. You seem to be posting a lot of stuff on here recently Ben. You are probably the person making up these expenses amounts at the game and stirring your own rumours. There is a certain amount of rubbish talked on this site ( not uncommon on Internet forums) but there are also many well-considered and knowledgeable points made too. If you don't like the site or its content, you know what to do.Clearly what the Chairman of a club herself says is not "hearsay" - you're posiibly getting confused with the name of your favourite band ?Football exists in the wider world and revenues generated, salaries, payments and expenses etc. fall within the rules that apply to all businesses. Most of us pay income tax and national insurance on our earnings. I am convinced however that either the authorities locally view payments to players with a blind eye or simply haven't the resources to bother with themI know of several clubs in the SWPL and it's predecessors who were chased aggressively by the taxman, almost to the point of bankruptcy. The last Government made it's position on tax avoidance crystal clear. The next one, of which ever persuasion, will undoubtedly do the same, and when they look, they look hard and a long way back. Treasurers beware, your largess may well come back to bite you! I totally agree. Any money received by a person thru earning or expenses is subjected to income tax and is treated as earnings by hmrc. Footballers are no exception to this rule and should understand this.Big Al, if you're going to agree with me you could at least give me a "like" I'm trying to catch up with Older and I've got an awful long way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 There's one for you bruegel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 There's one for you bruegel What a gentleman, only 346 to go........no make that 347! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Knew you would fall for that old trick cheers bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Howard Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 VJ i was speaking to some gentleman at the st austell v stoke game i think they were stoke fans or committee members they said that clubs like st austell plymouth parkway bodmin and exmouth are paying in excess of 1000 per game it the first i had hear of this so just wanted to shed some light on it. I am pretty sure that this is an over exageration and i for one feel a lot happier than i did after doing some invetigating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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