Rich Hill Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm captain of Liskeard 2nd team and just wanted people's views on this topic.We played Bere Alston on 8th November the game got abandoned with 10 minutes left we were winning 3-1. The Cornwall FA and Devon FA couldn't agree on the outcome of the game so they just decided to void the game!This meaning we don't get a chance to play the game again so will play 1 less game than everyone else! We are struggling this year so every chance to get points is crucial so now finding out Bere Alston were playing an ineligible player is another kick in the balls!The fossils down at the FA have given points to all the teams that Bere played against with the ineligible player apart from us! And it just happens they are mostly are relegation rivals!!They are an absolute joke and in my opinion don't seem to have a clue what they are doing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savo Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I would have thought Rich with only 10 mins left to play then the result would and should of stood. What was the game abandoned for mate. Bit harsh on you boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Could it be construed that both sides should be punished as the referee refused to finish the game? Presumably he didn't like something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Rich, I was under the impression that it was the League that decides points awarded, replays etc not the FA, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I could be wrong but I think you will find it was an FA decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Could it be construed that both sides should be punished as the referee refused to finish the game? Presumably he didn't like something!Yes Dave, he didnt like being bullied by Bere Alston and he did state this !MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm captain of Liskeard 2nd team and just wanted people's views on this topic.We played Bere Alston on 8th November the game got abandoned with 10 minutes left we were winning 3-1. The Cornwall FA and Devon FA couldn't agree on the outcome of the game so they just decided to void the game!This meaning we don't get a chance to play the game again so will play 1 less game than everyone else! We are struggling this year so every chance to get points is crucial so now finding out Bere Alston were playing an ineligible player is another kick in the balls!The fossils down at the FA have given points to all the teams that Bere played against with the ineligible player apart from us! And it just happens they are mostly are relegation rivals!!They are an absolute joke and in my opinion don't seem to have a clue what they are doing!!Rich - I have word from the league that if you want to know the facts, why not ask the League Secretary Ken Adkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 It was nothing malicious and I've seen far worse things happen on a football pitch! Just your standard handbags that the ref dealt with! It's an east Cornwall league yet our FA couldn't come to a decision with the Devon FA!! Just seems seems that it's a bunch of clowns that make up there own rules when they see fit! Those points could cost us big time at least let us be the ones to decide our fate win, lose or draw! Think they need to get their heads out their arses and get with the times this would no way happen at professional level! JOKE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 You're not at professional level though are you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savo Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 If it was an FA decision then it should not matter what level you are at as the rules are meant to be the same at all levels apparently, but never seems to work out that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 yeah thanks for stating the obvious! because if we were professional all this crap would of been dealt with properly not by these muppets! Savo hit the nail on the head should apparently be the same at all levels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ranting & raving on here will change nothing ... but offensive remarks directed at at Devon and Cornwall FA's could get you into further trouble! There are proper channels through which things should be pursued and it starts with your Club Secretary.The FA Standard Code of Rules - which applies to all Leagues states [10F(v)] "...In cases where a match has been abandoned owing to the conduct of both teams or their Club member(s), the Management Committee shall rule all points for the match as void." So it all depends on the Referees report as to why the match was abandoned; if the two County Associations accepted that both teams were to blame, they were not in a position to do anything other than instruct the ECPL to apply the rules and void any points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well seen as my club doesn't want to write a letter I felt the need to share my opinion and see what others think! And no doubt ranting and raving isn't the best idea but made me feel a little better about the situation!So do you think if it was Bodmin vs parkway and the same thing happened it would be a void match? Or that they would sit there and take it lightly if they were needing the points to win the league but would play a game less than everyone else? All because the Devon FA , Cornwall FA and in our case the ECPL aren't sure what there doing!The keeper for Bere was an ineligible player, all the other teams got there results over turned in their favour yet we don't even though for the first 80 mins of the match Bere were cheating yet we get punished! Just not sure where the 'non-fossils' dreamt up that idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well seen as my club doesn't want to write a letter I felt the need to share my opinion and see what others think! And no doubt ranting and raving isn't the best idea but made me feel a little better about the situation!So do you think if it was Bodmin vs parkway and the same thing happened it would be a void match? Or that they would sit there and take it lightly if they were needing the points to win the league but would play a game less than everyone else? All because the Devon FA , Cornwall FA and in our case the ECPL aren't sure what there doing!The keeper for Bere was an ineligible player, all the other teams got there results over turned in their favour yet we don't even though for the first 80 mins of the match Bere were cheating yet we get punished! Just not sure where the 'non-fossils' dreamt up that idea!To be fair though, when the result was decided to be made void, that was before the ineligibility of a player was known. Also - Did you take the advice of contacting the league secretary as he suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've told our club to so fingers crossed they will!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I've told our club to so fingers crossed they will!!I've been told the following from someone who knows more then most about the issue being discussed :"It is quite obvious that this "Gentleman" does not have any knowledge of the FA Standard Rules for Leagues below Level 7. He states in his recent post that this would not happen in the CSWPl. He is possibly correct, as they have a different set of Rules to follow. I will give you the facts. As I know them.1. Both Bere & Liskeard were found guilty of causing the match to be abandoned. Each Club was fined £125.00. (Some may have been suspended) Therefore the match had to be declared void as noted in John Mead's entry.2. The FA standard rules say that points gained by default must be deducted and awarded to the other team.3. I also believe that the Liskeard Manager received a ban for his part in the abandonment. If so how come he did not know?4. As their match was void no award can be made" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thanks for posting that Dave at least it gives us some answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savo Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 I love the way whoever gave you the info Dave makes a slight insult at Rich putting gentleman in quotations insinuating it isn't what he truly implies. Rich obviously just feels strongly and passionately about his club and a potential wrong doing, which appears not to be the case,only the refs report will shed anyway light on the abandonment itself. To many self righteous comments on here about who knows more, the lad is just venting his frustrations.Good luck for rest of the season Rich,and Dave great magazine this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hill Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeah I just ignored that bit Savo! I'm sure the informant didn't want to be named as per usual! Or maybe he didn't like my fossil comment! Thanks savo hopefully we can stay up was just hoping this thread would shed some light on the subject so thanks to those that have commented. All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Rich in your original statement you state 'we won't get a chance to play the game again'....why on earth should you?! Both teams should be deducted points and a fine of £125 is too low for what happened!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What happened then pointers ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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