Home Waters Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Perhaps a bit of serious discussion lads. Should the rule be abolished as very few clubs over the years have ever abided by the rule and again its raising its head. We all know that managers ring players up, mainly players they have had before, against the rule - yes. This time of year in the past, Club Secretaries would speak to the other Club Scretary and say, we know what is happening ok this time in the early season, but dont do it again or we will complain to FA. The problem being the FA very rarely, if ever, took action as it is always difficult to prove. We seem to have clubs that try to take action and those that do nothing - shouldn't we all be singing the same tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 The main purpose of the rule is to alert a Club that someone is after one of their players and they have seven days to persuade them to stay (or to go in some instances!) The initial, illegal approach will never be stopped and seems to have become an accepted part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Waters Posted August 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Yes I agree with you John. But it seems a bit pointless having rules which are not possible to 'police' or abide by, therefor the leagues should make representation to the FA to scrap the rule or make it more workable as PH explained on Peninsula Web. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin richards Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 What the law does do is, stops you from approaching another player from that club within a 28 day period ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Waters Posted August 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thats what the law says kevin, my point is no one takes any notice and too difficult to prove before the FA, whether it be the 7, 21 or 28 days mentioned in the rule. Its a bit like prostitution, its illegal, you will never stop it, so why not legalise it. Before all the wags come back, I mean the 7 day rule, of course!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldasitgets Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Yes I agree with you John. But it seems a bit pointless having rules which are not possible to 'police' or abide by, therefor the leagues should make representation to the FA to scrap the rule or make it more workable as PH explained on Peninsula Web. cheers Go on, explain. How do you make representation to the FA? In Cornwall, you could try through your Council Representative the next time he turns up at your club or League meeting. You could send in a proposed Rule Change for consideration at the next AGM. Oh, I forgot, you can't do that any more. No, I'm stuck. How would you do it? And, since when has the fact that a rule doesn't make sense or is unworkable had any relevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin richards Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Its not difficult to prove to the FA , Distant Shores, because every 7 day notice of approach should be sent to the club secretary by " recorded delivery". The club that recieves the approach then has the postal reciept as evidence should another approach come in within 28 days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Waters Posted August 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Your right about making sense but as far as I am aware there are avenues open, the AGM's of the County FA are accessable, your own League is entitled to write to the FA, individuals can keep raising it. pressure can be brought one way or another, but its not likely as not many are that intersted. There happy to continue and not rock the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Can somebody please clarify this for me? Assuming that players have signed for a club in July and have played friendlies for that club. If the manager were to be poached by another club (who has also signed players forms) before the season started could he then ask several of the players to join him at that club which incidently plays in another league, without adhearing to the 7 day approach rules? Should the club that coersed him into moving have made a 7 day approach for his services? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NORTHERNB*****D Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I would of thought he could only take one player every month. reguards approaching a manager not sure what contract managers sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 The manager would not have signed a contract but has registered as a player? No approach has been received for either him or the players as far as I am aware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer Follower Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I would say not,Gooner. If the players have been duly registered with the appropriate league,seven day approach to club where players are registered but only only player per month as our Northern friend says. If the club where the players are registered waives the rule,no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NORTHERNB*****D Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Does a manager automatically sign as a players then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ronin Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Who is this mysterious manager then? Very cryptic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Could apply to lots of managers I guess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Sounds close to home Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 It could be fairly close gooner but in a few weeks time all will become clear, all the boys who havent settled will play elsewhere, all those that have will start to enjoy their football and managers will still come and go. I think the problems have been dramatically increased this season due to players being allowed to legally sign for 2 different clubs and therefore represent 2 or 3 different teams. It has made managing a lot harder! (Not that I would know now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_blue_browner Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 its all rubbish cos its very rare that 7days is put in for a player without the manager or a rep from the new club speaking to the player first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 You are right to a degree Browner, that does I am sure happen if a club wants a player. But to take several players at once is not on. From what I read in yesterdays Independent it didn't do them much good did it! What goes around comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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