Lafs Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Just been informed that the Ref has just abandoned this match after he had sent Lee Whetter off and an angry reaction and backlash from St Austell followed!! Alledgedly, the Ref threw his toys out the pram and asked the St Austell mangement if they wanted the game to be abandoned and the answer he got, was yes!! Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_ Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Whats the usual procedure for this kind of situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Oh dear - sounds bad on someone's behalf! Ref's or St Austell's - to be revealed presumably! Who was the referee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Actually I might be able to answer my own question - was it Dave Green? A little more info coming through ..................The ref asked if St Austell wanted to abandon the game and the assistant manager, who got sent off, said yes! Jokingly possibly! 62 minutes had been completed with it 1-0 to Callington, who were about to have a penalty!!! 5 St Austell booked against one from Callington! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Cornwall Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 my view being a nuetralist now, jokingly, its nice to see callington getting refereeing decisions. i know many games where the manager has been unhappy that opposition teams have gone to callington and gained every decision to them and callington as youve seen in the last few weeks have had numerous players suspended but i guess thats football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Chough Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 So what was your opion of what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr unorthodox Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 i believe there has to be at least 70 or 80 minutes played for the match scoreline to be confirmed. having the match abandoned after 62 minutes, im sure the match will have to be re-played. be interesting to see the ref's report. if a decision is wrong then the ref has to be big and put his hand up, but as the old saying goes a ref will never change his mind. with the RESPECT campaign in full swing, St. Austell could find themselves in deep water for there reaction possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigman Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 ref got it right he is not there to be abused at they was abusing the ref and he repilyed do u want this game abandoned nd the idiot said yh well done ref 100% today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I bet St Austell wish they could have the infamous Senior Cup ref Mike Oldaker every game! :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Cornwall Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 cornish chough i cannot give my view as i have been informed that i am not allowed to watch games at callington. but they cant just ban me just because i was a former representative. their ground rules state about abusive language, or alochol etc but i havent committed any of those and plus im with millbrook next season so they have cant ban me on our visit, so mr deacon or any other higher member of the league what shall i do? i mean i really watch callington, not! but for the future i may want to scout games for my club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I wonder what will happen here? There are a lot of things to take into account. 1,You have the imortance of the game with respect to the league and 2nd place- Probably going 2 nil down with 10 men for the last 30 mins- doesn't look like a win on the cards. 2, You have a referee abandoning a game when asking a rhetorical question-does he have any right to do this? He may have been abused- deal with it then. 3. Will this game get rearranged before the end of season deadline? Depending on the outcome of this event may have an effect of future league games. Ref as we are losing can we abandon the game please? Without being there or knowing any of the facts!! I think that both parties are in the wrong and look forward to seeing the outcome. With the CCFA at the helm I wouldn't like to speculate at the result of tonight. :SM_carton: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigman Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 i mean i really watch callington, not! but for the future i may want to scout games for my club! ur a idiot cally mike aint u ur not even funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 oops,second time town have had an abandoned game in recent seasons????players dissapearing or never existing?players not playing coz manager has upset them??players from clubs "guesting"for rivals?? whats goin on??? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 With the CCFA at the helm I wouldn't like to speculate at the result of tonight I think you'll find it will be a SWPL decision and nothing to do with the CCFA. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Discipline wise it will be the CCFA but the league will decide on the issue of league rules. What if the SWPL deduct points from ST Austell that would scupper their promotion prospects. Crikey the English language has gone out of the window on this topic. Anyone got the manual to decipher some of it. Official Statement Posted on the SWPL site Wednesday 29th April : Callington Town v St Austell The league are aware that this fixture in Division 1 West was abandoned after 63 minutes with Callington leading 1-0. After preliminary discussions with the referee the league will be awaiting his official written report and once that is received the league will file any charges deemed appropriate. No decision as to the declaring of the result or punishments imposed will be made until such time as the official report and the clubs responses to it are received by the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uncle Albert Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 St Austell wont be getting promotion, because I hear they failed the ground grading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Many questions to ask on this one:- What on earth was the ref doing offering the choice of abandonment to the management of a team losing? Why couldn't the ref deal with some grief - either by cards, use of the quiet word or by early use of the captains? All down to man management at the end of the day, and already tonight, as a direct consequence of tonight's happenings at Callington, a ref has said to me :"I really think some refs need to man up and think of the bigger picture." :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 St Austell could be in hot water see thisiscornwallwebsite http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/football/C...il/article.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Assuming all the above is true.... Typical St Austell. Can dish it out but can't take it. Whetters one of the biggest con-artists in the league. Hope they throw the book at him & his club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Certainly nothing to do with neither Callington management nor players - none involved! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 or callymike dave???? callymike....very sad that they banned you but at least you,re not involved this time,see what happens when you leave,place goes to pieces :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer Follower Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You have to have sympathy with Callington here.Leading 1-0 and a penalty awarded in their favour,possibly to make it 2-0.Opposition player is dismissed and game is abandoned by the referee. Only 62 minutes on the watch so the game will have to be replayed which is to St.Austell's advantage as they will start at 0-0 with eleven players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You have to have sympathy with Callington here.Leading 1-0 and a penalty awarded in their favour,possibly to make it 2-0.Opposition player is dismissed and game is abandoned by the referee. Only 62 minutes on the watch so the game will have to be replayed which is to St.Austell's advantage as they will start at 0-0 with eleven players. very true m8 i was there cally was allover them they could of one the game andd should of hammerd them would of be nice to but now they got to play them for a 3rd time in 2 weeks :SM_carton: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Man on the Post Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 IF the league find St. Austell guilty of, say, a misconduct charge then surely they have the power to award the game to Callington. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 What an injustice it would be if the game was to be re-played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Chough Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 i feel sorry for callington 1 0 up just about to take penalty st austell 10 men ref and st austell fined deducted points no replay what do u think???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaner Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Right, this is for everyone who likes to comment, who wasn't even at the ground, and has no idea what happened! After around 25 minutes the referee made a stupid decision in awarding Callington a freekick on the penalty spot when Whetters tackled Mason and the keeper picked it up... hmmm. From then on, I can honestly say I've never had such a poor referee (Dave Green). He was uninterested in talking to anyone about anything and continued to give ridiculous decisions, and it seemed last night was all about him, and not the 2 teams! The crunch decision came around the 62nd minute when Brokenshire was blatently fouled in his own box. The referee waved play on and incidently the Callington winger was brought down by Whetters. The referee proceeded to show a red card, obviously resulting in the St.Austell players being unhappy. The referee wouldnt allow any St.Austell players to leave the pitch to talk to him or they would be in the book.. I was trying to tell him that i was last man (because i definately was!!) and all i was getting in return was "no you wasn't, go away".. ("go away" i think being the referees favourite words last night!) From there, Whetters was sat behind the dug out. The referee needlessly ran over to our bench telling him he needs to "leave the arena". All of the players on the pitch were telling the ref just to leave it, and continue with the game as this is what EVERYONE wanted to do. The ref continued to exchange words with what is obviously going to be an angry bench. He then stated "any more of this and i'm going to abandon the game" (not sure what he means by "this"? The only thing that happened last night was the referee completely lost control, and through his toys out of the pram) From this, our bench JOKINGLY replied "go on then" and the whistle was blown and off he went saulking. All of the players were shocked and wanted to continue the game, and I'm sure Callington towns report of him will look similar to ours!! Having spoke to a qualified referee, I was made aware that he has to consult linesman before abandoning the game? Pretty sure this didnt happen either! It will be an utter disgrace if it comes to St.Austell having to face some form of disciplinary action. The only action that needs to be taken is for Dave Green to retire!!! Absolutely shocking!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 What would life be like if we didn't all have opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Chough Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The ref must of thought there was no reason to speak to u and he stuck by his dession,unless your the captain why should he speak to u.If he sent someone off the souldn't hide behind the bench that only makes things worst, no doubt that u thought he should of not been sent off who does? A decision was made right or wrong.I expect u have had some things go your way this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 What would life be like if we didn't all have opinions. Depends on whose opinions you take notice of. I'm not going to make any comment on this game but can't wait for the CCFA to publish their findings... was Ben Andros one of the Linos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 :SM_carton: Judge, you're a beaut. :drink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Man on the Post Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 All of the players on the pitch were telling the ref Sounds like the players were trying to run the game! The ref continued to exchange words with what is obviously going to be an angry bench. Perhaps Learner could tell us if the bench used abusive language towards the ref? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Why on earth should a referee consult an assistant before making a decision to abandon the game, also the referee was correct any player being sent off should leave the field of play and must leave the area (basically go back to the changing rooms and not stand watching the match) if he was asked to do this and refused possibly encouraged by the dugout and abuse being used by several people from the dugout then I can understand the decision to abandon the game. This is conjecture on my part as I was not at the game so could not see the incident, but reading the other posts this is an assesement of what may have occured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Seems a pity that a Ref.should be driven to feel the need to abandon a game and Leaner's comments that he should retire just illustrates what is wrong with football at the moment. Luckily the League rules would allow the Committee to award the game to Callington without the nonsense of a re-play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedge Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Luckily the League rules would allow the Committee to award the game to Callington without the nonsense of a re-play. If memory serves me correctly this is what happened last season when St Austell's game against Goonhavern was abandoned. Austell were awarded the win, being 2-1 up at the time. I'm not sure if there was any further punishment for Goonhavern though. I wasn't there last night, so I can't comment on exactly what went on, but from a purely personal point of view, I'd rather Callington were given the three points than have the game replayed. I imagine if St Austell went on to win the replay, it would just add ammunition to some of the more troublemaking members of this forum, and I have no desire to see my club's name dragged through the mud over and over again. Like I said, these are just my personal views, NOT those of St Austell football club. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'll endorse Sedge's comments especially re.Town's reputation.It takes a bit of discipline to wear success and after so many Years a pity to tarnish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Chough Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 It happened to your club everyone has an opion no one trying to drag them through the mud, if your team didn't react like this no topic. RESPECT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fromacrossthewater Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Irrespective of whether the referee was having a mare or wanted to be the star of the show, it seems to me he had every right in abandoning the game if players refuse to leave the field of play or the area. Seems like the player involved was the one sulking. It is understandable that the bench got frustrated and annoyed but that does not give them any right to give the official any abuse. In my opinion it shows a lack of control by the bench and they could have just marked the referee low and written the report expressing their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Man on the Post Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 And i cant understand why all you on here commenting about something that you weren't even watching! Presumably this is an example of what the referree faced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Decisions over a course of a season even themselves out, if it wasnt for a poor refereeimg decision, Im sure St Austell wouldnt have won the senior cup. Swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This match should not,and indeed MUST not be replayed.Quite simply,Callington were blameless.Imagine a future scenario if the powers that be order the game to be replayed:Any team in the land being well beaten decide to get the game abandoned in order to have another stab at winning the game at a future date. A very dangerous precedent could(would!) follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Chough Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Leaner u seem to have a problem with refs perhaps this is the teams problem and what happened.Do u know i wasn't at the game last night. NO REFS NO GAME GET OVER IT. You obvously aren't the captain and had know reason to speak to the ref, so the ref got that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I do hope St. Austell Town are very proud of the reputation they are gaining within South West football circles. From your comment above LEANER, you have given a fine example of the type of person you are. It would seem to me that St. Austell Town do not like abiding by the rules and if we can't accept it, tough. It is now time for the Cornish Football Association to show some "bottle". Award the 3 points to Callington Town, deduct 15 points from them for the start of next season and fine them £500.00 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanks Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pastyman, what the hell are you on about?!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Do I really have to explain! Are you really that thick???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanks Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You having a bad day by any chance?!! Explain....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 nanks get leaner to wind his neck in making himself and your club look stupid in an already delicate situation pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastyman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just read the reports connected to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Yeatman Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Cat -good rational post. Wasn't there, don't support either team but have to agree that the nature of the postings by Leaner are probably suggesting to most neutrals that the ref was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanks Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Ive read the reports mate and I had reports of the game being texted to me......and nearly everyone saying the ref was very poor. Maybe someone from Callington can comment as anyone saying anything from St Austell is going to be deemed as being biased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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