MUPPY Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 WHO is Ben Andros? Is this every going to be closed matter now ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 CCFA will probably try to ban all results and match reports from the paper now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 At last this big West Cornwall news story has been explained to the layman by way of todays West Briton and This is Cornwall online. I feel the CCFA would welcome Constantine to progress to the Final in next Wednesdays replay, as quite a number of people must be holding back with the information and it would only take a small disagreement within the club for some one to give the full explanation. I wouldn't drop any one for the replay ! I presume there would be an address on the signing on form to follow up? Anyway a good plug for the Cornish Soccer Forum in the press- 6000 'fever pitched' hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Hill Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 You have to laugh at the article. But apparently the matter is now closed?!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 For those who cant get the West Briton This is Cornwall © http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/westbriton...il/article.html WHO is Ben Andros? That is the burning question being asked in one of the biggest mysteries to hit Cornish amateur football in recent years. It all started back in November when Falmouth Athletic had a player sent off in a Falmouth/Helston Division One fixture against Mousehole. But it wasn't until February, when Falmouth faced Troon in an important Junior Cup West semi-final, that the identity of the player red carded came into question. Falmouth won the game 6-4. Troon were led to believe that the player was Ben Ambrose, but when the suspension was listed on the Cornwall FA's website, a player called Ben Andros was named as the suspended player following a successful appeal by Falmouth. It meant Andros would miss the semi-final clash with Troon on February 2 and Ambrose would be available to play. Falmouth manager Kevin Toy insists Andros was a registered player and that it was him, as the FA's suspension list stated, who was banned for the Troon game. Troon manager Anthony Reynolds has since made thorough investigations in his pursuit of discovering if Andros does exist. These have included a written letter to the CCFA, checked through phone books, electoral rolls and on the internet. But none has proved fruitful. It was even suggested that Andros had been working at Falmouth Docks and had since moved to Southampton to start a new job. Reynolds revealed he made a phone call to the Docks, and that they had no recollection of a person by the name of Andros ever working there. The CCFA have responded by insisting Troon's allegations that Andros does not exist "have no substance." Interest in this saga has reached fever pitch on internet message boards – the Cornwall Soccer Forum has received almost 6,000 hits. Falmouth manager Kevin Toy believes it is 'sour grapes' on Troon's part and insists the club are not guilty of any wrongdoing. "As far as I am aware the CCFA have taken all the facts and there is nothing else to discuss," insists Toy. "Ben Andros was with us for six weeks and I think in that time he turned up three times. It's very easy for us to sign players and when the signing-on forms were passed about, Ben (Andros) filled one out." Cornwall FA secretary Barry Cudmore said in a statement issued yesterday: "We received a complaint from Troon FC about Falmouth Athletic fielding an ineligible player in their Westinsure Cornwall Junior Cup tie. "We have investigated the matter and found that there were no ineligible players playing for Falmouth Athletic. "Troon FC made further allegations which, after investigation, were again not upheld. We have been in communication with both clubs over this matter and have already explained the results of our investigations to Troon FC in great detail. Therefore, we now consider the matter closed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Mike, its a complete and utter cover up. The CCFA will not be seen to go against their own verdict when they over-turned the original red card. Even if someone from the club did come out and admit the "truth" they still would not take it seriously unless it was from someone senior ie management or secretary( and we all know that aint gonna happen!) Shame that people are so desperate to win a trophy that they will stoop to these levels. Shame that the powers that run football in our county have not got the balls to actually admit they got it wrong and got the wool pulled over their eyes. Shame the Troon boys have been cheated out of a decent cup final, shame the Tine boys have had their day over shadowed by this and a shame the Athletic boys wont get the recognition they deserve should they win the trophy. Knowing a lot of them they are decent guys and a good team, thankfully for them it looks like it wont be ruined with one or two individuals greed for personal glory. And yes their is an address section on all forms. But as he has now moved to Outer Mongolia and with no Vodafone signal there no-one can get hold of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Tully Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Did Mr Andros return from his new location up country to watch his former teamates last night? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUPPY Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 mr tulley im not sure if he turned up to watch!!!! did anyone check the team sheet? :SM_carton: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Heard he had the game streamed live to his villa in Mongolia where he is seeking exile and writing his memoirs with a ghost writer, beleived to be someone from the West Briton. In this he will reveal all the sordid secrecy surrounding the incident. Expect the serialization in the West Briton, who outbid the Sun and Mirror, in the Autumn!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUPPY Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 mr gillo10 does this mean he wont be available for next season as traveling back by a yak could take time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Probably by magic carpet, sponsered by Hardy Carpets! Why not, everything else to do with this story is pure fantasy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never touched him ref!! Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Ridiculous, thats the only way to some up this saga. Someone at the ccfa should be made to explain what on earth has gone on. Poor mr andros, if he exists, has had his name dragged through the mud for long enough. Somewhere there has been some wrong doing, and there should be some sort of punishment dished out. After all there are several teams in junior football with considerable point deductions, for matters that pale into insignificance alongside the andros debarkle. Sort it out please Mr Cudmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 The point is never touched .... is that Andros DOESNT exist, in anyway shape or form upon our fine shores. Therefore doubt he will be too offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never touched him ref!! Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I understand that Gillo, it was just a turn of phrase to say this has dragged on for way too long, and that someone should really stand up and admit responsibility for something that has tarnished the biggest cup in cornish junior football. Whether it be the ccfa or someone at falmouth athletic, either way there are hundreds of people interested in the answer to Androsgate!!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillo10 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Sorry for the mis-understanding chief. Here bloody here is what i say to that. Though lets face it, no-one will ever stand up and admit that: 1) they are wrong or 2) Falmouth Athletic deliberatly cheated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coys Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Is Andros with this man????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasa Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Well the only 2 ways I think it can be sorted is to check the address on the signing on form or to find the referee who sent ''Andros" off and get him to describe him with a picture of Ambrose in hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIFI Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Y dnt u all get ova it. the 2 teams in the final deserve to b there end of story!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sport Lover Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 This one should be an easy one to solve :- Get the ref to describe Ben Andros, check the address on the forms and go to that address and investigate further. or Get the Falmouth players to describe him if as suggested above he turned up 3 times in 6 weeks then someone will know what he looks like. Do the Mousehole players/officials remember 2 Ben's playing against them in that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 sportlover,to stop this farce all falmouth athletic need to do is prove ben andros exists, there must be street cameras,store cameras etc that can prove he existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Mitchell Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 "Ben Andros was with us for six weeks and I think in that time he turned up three times. It's very easy for us to sign players and when the signing-on forms were passed about, Ben (Andros) filled one out." hahahaha, brilliant!!! how come none of the athletic boys met this andros guy!!! complete and utter bulls**t. ive never known anything like it. was he that good that mr toy hid him in the trees down dracena so truro city couldnt sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughy Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 all the ccfa got to do is check the post code on signing on form .to see if their was a andros at this address .i have spoke to the ref that day he told me he sent of ben ambrose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Cornwall FA secretary Barry Cudmore said in a statement issued yesterday: "We received a complaint from Troon FC about Falmouth Athletic fielding an ineligible player in their Westinsure Cornwall Junior Cup tie. "We have investigated the matter and found that there were no ineligible players playing for Falmouth Athletic. SNEAKY!!!!! they are correct.....there was no ineligible players.....as they over turned the red card, but did Falmouth appeal against the red card correctly?? no they didnt, it was done over the phone!! to hide the fact that the CCFA had made a complete and utter **** up!!and to coved up the sending off, they made up a name simular to ben ambrose to not arouse too much suspicion, signed him on promptly, then falmouth agreed to pay a fine for "ben andros" to make it all above board,...........CCFA have hid there emmbarrassment, falmouth have got thier way!!!!! when did ben andros sign on for falmouth ath?? would it suprise many people if it was pretty close to the Mousehole game where a player got send off?!! i think not! one rule for one, one for another, Ludicrous!! and i cant believe no one else higher has worked this out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So there is someone called Ben Andros who came to Falmouth for 3 - 6 weeks 1) No family ties in the area 2) Didnt have a job in the area 3) Isnt at the univercity and/or colleges 4) Didnt stay anywhere in the area 5) Didnt meet anybody in the area I know Falmouth is a nice place but the above would make it tricky to believe the story. Im surprised Barry at St Austell has had the wool pulled over his eyes this blatently. Ive managed to do a bit of research and have discovered that Ben Andros has a mother Jessica Fletcher the great crime writer would often bowl into a town and disappear. Also he has pet The littlest Hobo, he used to do a similar thing to Jessica fletcher but in a canine sort of way. So hopefully the above helps prove that just because someone appears not to exist and doesnt leave any trail then they do....................Honest! Universal Studios are in talks to make this the next big thing. The all star cast could be Ben Andros as himself Mother as Jessica Fletcher Beloved Pet as Littlest Hobo Super Mario as Toyer kris kringle as Barry Cudmore Who else would everyone have in this feature length......???? ps On a slightly lighter note, Kfc is moving into the cathedral city of Truro at the old spar shop on the piazza. As one of there best customers I keep in the know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 surely you can,t appeal against a red card over the phone?,i was always led to believe a personal hearing had to be requested,anyone from the ccfa or club secs like to comment....john mead??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 at least a letter has to be sent, recored delivery? so that SHOULD be traceable.....?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nets Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is this where Fal Ath came up with the name BEN ANDROS Anagram : RED NO BANS !! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Bassett Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 So there is someone called Ben Andros who came to Falmouth for 3 - 6 weeks 1) No family ties in the area 2) Didnt have a job in the area 3) Isnt at the univercity and/or colleges 4) Didnt stay anywhere in the area 5) Didnt meet anybody in the area I know Falmouth is a nice place but the above would make it tricky to believe the story. Im surprised Barry at St Austell has had the wool pulled over his eyes this blatently. Ive managed to do a bit of research and have discovered that Ben Andros has a mother Jessica Fletcher the great crime writer would often bowl into a town and disappear. Also he has pet The littlest Hobo, he used to do a similar thing to Jessica fletcher but in a canine sort of way. So hopefully the above helps prove that just because someone appears not to exist and doesnt leave any trail then they do....................Honest! Universal Studios are in talks to make this the next big thing. The all star cast could be Ben Andros as himself Mother as Jessica Fletcher Beloved Pet as Littlest Hobo Super Mario as Toyer kris kringle as Barry Cudmore Who else would everyone have in this feature length......???? ps On a slightly lighter note, Kfc is moving into the cathedral city of Truro at the old spar shop on the piazza. As one of there best customers I keep in the know! This film sounds like a classic ! What's it called ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geachy1 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 the film should be called the return of the man who didnt come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 or the man without a face....... or arms or legs, or whole body come to that!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cowkicker Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hollow Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Good gracious, I seem to be agreeing with Gillo and J.Miller ! So what kind of protest has been organised for the Junior Cup Final, Cloughy ? Looks like you could attract a record crowd of demonstrators....that would be revenue for CCFA as well ! You could organise a good coachload or two from Troon/Camborne area and there must be somebody who would sponsor a couple of barrels of beer to get the journey lubricated. There are certainly folks from a few other clubs who would be up for the craic ! How about it, Cloughy ? Time to stand up for the good name of Troon ! I'll be there ! No, you can't appeal a red card by phone ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think this is a job for Mr Brown. He has solved everything in the world so far so why not this little problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggie Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I saw Ben Andros in Tesco Extra, he was with his mate Elvis & a mysterious horse....someone said it may have been Shergar......so I know he's real......here's a thought is Ben Andros the 'Stig'...some say he once played in the Junior cup & worked in a dock yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willser ! Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I take it then in the semi final against Troon, this Ben Ambrose scored all 6 goals, was the greatest player on earth and made the Troon players look like bambi on ice ! ! As the old cliche goes, one player doesn't make a team and Falmouth would have ran out worthy winners anyway! Look its Andros ! :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIFI Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I totaly agree with willser. how long have troon been dragging this on for? more to the point how long r they goin to drag it on for???????????????? boring boring boring ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest retiredscorer Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 where is deez - is he ben andros? he is a great prospect for the future - where r u mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 For Mr Miller, KFC could be coming to Falmouth ( The old Riders Garage Draceana Avenue) :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tafc.-gaffa Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 This has got to be put to bed. Its boring!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deez14 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 And who is reitired scorer? reveal yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynan's_Dad Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Ben Andros on Facebook Easy!! :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toaster15 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 "Therefore, we now consider the matter closed." Substitute the word 'closed' with 'swept under the carpet' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIFI Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 So hopefully it doesnt get mentioned on this forum again coz its getting very boring now. Neone agree???????? :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 it,s never going to go away unless ben andros suddenly appears,which really undermines this seasons junior cup,lets just hope another team wins it fair and square :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J MILLER Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 For Mr Miller, KFC could be coming to Falmouth ( The old Riders Garage Draceana Avenue) Thanks fpr the info Lee, Interesting, that site is just a few doors down from my previous abode on Draceana Avenue, they are about 5 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man on! the sideline Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Ben Andros on Facebook Easy!! there's another one aswell dob:7/5/68 lives toronto never heard of dracina? must admit it is getting tired but it's a point worth bringing up, in this modern age people get found out, a note to all clubs, just be a bit more carefull in the future, we don't want the ccfa to look daft or have to admit they made a mistake, do we...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughy Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 just like to say we are still pursuing it .we wont stop until the truth comes out .i hoping falmouth will win junior cup . i want to bring down ccfa and falmouth ath .that would make a good topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 For Mr Miller, KFC could be coming to Falmouth ( The old Riders Garage Draceana Avenue) Thanks fpr the info Lee, Interesting, that site is just a few doors down from my previous abode on Draceana Avenue, they are about 5 years too late. .what about the one coming right opposite were you work,dont do it mate bring some sarnies Ben Andros on Facebook Easy!! there's another one aswell dob:7/5/68 lives toronto never heard of dracina? must admit it is getting tired but it's a point worth bringing up, in this modern age people get found out, a note to all clubs, just be a bit more carefull in the future, we don't want the ccfa to look daft or have to admit they made a mistake, do we...? the ccfa can look daft with or with out are help mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIFI Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Surely cloughy you have got better things to do with your time instead of chasing a lost cause??? You lost the game fair and square so .......... GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloughy Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 fifi .yes we lost but it is about the truth .we all no wot mr toy is like .this could of been sorted ages ago just prove who andros is .because falmouth cant we all want to stop this happening again for the good of cornish football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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