Guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Who is/was the better Tamarside who won promotion from Division One in 2006-7 or current Division One leaders Plymouth Parkway? Records Tamarside 26 24 2 0 103 23 74 (2006-7) Plymouth Parkway 17 17 0 0 84 18 51 (2008-9) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest st george9 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 both good teams but hard to judge? was the standerd better or worse when tamerside won .. and parkway have yet to drop points but still have us to play yet :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spod Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Good topic. Having been lucky enough to have watched both teams play I would say that Parkway were slightly the better team. It will be interesting to see if they are able to hold on to all of their players as Tamarside unfortunately weren't able to. Having not seen the league table myself, how far ahead are Parkway and when can they officially, mathematically win the league?? Can't be long!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Theoreticaly they have such a massive goal difference they would only need 20 points to win the Division from their last 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I think you will find if Parkway get promoted players will stay as it will give them the opportunity to play quality teams in the Premier division. In reply to the original question I would say it is a close call. Both teams play attractive football. Can Parkway remain undefeated till the end of the season ? I think they will drop points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spod Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Having watched Parkway a few times this season it is clear that they could all play at a higher level then the ECPL, which is not that great a league with all due respect. There is only a handful of decent teams in that league, and a big gulf between the top and bottom teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest football mad Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Parkway I would say have a much better future ahead of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think this is a great topic... realistically i feel that This owuld be a great geam if it was to be played and would be an interesting result. As it has been mentioned Tamerside were a class siade with great players who are now playing at a higher level, some even showing signs of going higher again. Having said this Parkway for me just have that liittle bit more about them, all the players could play higher and earn money but have chosen not too well apart from the odd one....... They have class in all areas and if you think of class at any standars these players can and some point have or will play higher. At present they will be staying together they have made it clear they want to be in the South West leagues and they want to be the team to beat in all levels of football. Tamerside were class but couldnt keep the players ... Parkway are class and can keep the players so in my eyes thats what makes Parkway the beter side.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Having seen many SWPL and ECPL games this season I think Spod does the ECPL a disservice about its standard. The ECPL standard continues to surpise me and yes there are teams who struggle with some of their lesser players as to be expected but by and large it is a good standard to watch in both divisions. There are a number of SWPL teams who would actually struggle in the ECPL - so I think the comments are a little unfair. As far as the posted topic is concerned there seems to be a trend implying the Tamarside players left to go to a higher standard. Yes most of them did but it was only because the manager could not commit himself to another season that the players decided not to stay. The club also had a terrible time financially as they virtually received no income. Tamarside is still a terrific club with a very strong youth development and I am sure they will appear in senior football again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-4-2 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Don't forget Tamarside actually only finished 5th in the Premier League though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potatoehead Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 And parkway got knocked out of this season`s cup by a mid table prem team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAVILAD Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I heard that Tamarside struggled to get a team towards the end as there players lost interest and after the cup final against Torpoint they still could've have won the league . Parkway are with out doubt a good side and are flying high , but have they really been tested?!! Imean they lost to bodmin in the cup this season who are half way in the prem. Look out next year parkway then we will see how good you are?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 If I am not wrong, Bodmin were top of the Prem Div at the time and they put out a pretty decent side. They have declined since. I wouldn't put to much emphasis on that particular result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spod Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I seem to remeber reading on here i think, about how darren gilbert and luke hodge both scored wonder goals in that particular game, so thats probably a good indication of the strength of side Bodmin put out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Baptist Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Tamarside were a great side and won Division 1 easily but when the going got tough in the Premier league and the big games came around, it was almost a case of "Spot the regular" as the side was usually scattered with players from other teams. Do Parkway do this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foz06 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Tamarside were a great side and won Division 1 easily but when the going got tough in the Premier league and the big games came around, it was almost a case of "Spot the regular" as the side was usually scattered with players from other teams. Do Parkway do this??? No we dont. Are manager believes that the 17 he has are good enough to win trophies and does not feel the need to bring in tom, **** and harry. So for the rest of this season and next year in the Premier i can safely say it wont be a case of 'spot the regular'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-4-2 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 You're not there yet! A minor miracle for you not to get there agreed, but you're not there yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Bodmin v Parkway Yes Parkway did loose to a team who is now in mid table. What they did to defeat Parkway was to bring in a couple of 1st team players to make sure they did not get knocked out and if my memory serves me right it was 2-1. Parkway also do not need to bring in players, if they do, they have the option to bring in players from the 3rd team, to win games. They have not done it yet this season even when they were short due to Devon Youth games. Are they good enough for the Premier Division ? When they are promoted I think they will do very well. Yes, it will be hard. But that is why they joined the League so that they can play against the best. Mid table in the first season will be a brilliant achievement. Good luck for the rest of the season Parkway. PS John still owes £2 for not wearing the proper kit at the home game against Nanpean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harris Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Mr Potatoehead, in reply to your post..... Yes Parkway did lose Bodmin 2nds in the cup, but guessing by that post you were not at the game. Bodmin struggled for large parts of the game, who at that point in time where top of the ECPL. THey had a very strong side out that included 1st team players and players who had left Wadebridge first team at the end of the sesaosn after winning the Weat league. Bodmin had two defenders from bodmin 1st and one from wadebridge 1st. they also had Nick Dowling who is assistant manager of the 2nd string odmin side but nun the less has played for Bodmin 1st for many seasons and the league winning wadebrdige side. ALso they brought on the Bodmin player manager and Cornwall captain Darren Gilbert when they were under the cosh....... ALso they had (the name i cant remember) starting upfront who played all season maybe two seasons for Bodmin 1st upfront. Now despite these players they are a strong side, with out these so reflecting back on this that side would so very well in any league let alone the ECPL. SO yes Parkway did lose but despite all this they gave thema great game on a sun drenched pitched that just goes to show they can cope at any level........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oi Trigger! Get some work done and by the way have a word with yourself about your spelling....call yourself a teacher!!??!! I never got to see much of the old Tamarside team, but knowing the players and knowing most of the Parkway boys pretty well, I'd say any comparison would be unrealistic. Most of the Tamarside boys play regular football in the higher leagues, yet not many of the Parkway second team have been able to hold down a regular spot in their first team over the past 5 years or so. (For whatever, various reasons). However, the spirit and knowledge they have about each other's games makes them more formidable than they might be otherwise...sum of the parts and all that. They have proved their stickability as most of them have been there forever and are unlikely to be pulled away by the likes of other Plymouth based SWPL teams who might be able to afford ££ a game. Some players will come and go from every team/club and they are no different, just that they have a stable foundation and structure behind them, (Parkway have had only one change of management at senior level ((Gez to Lenny)) in the past 10 years) part of a good club that takes care of them and the ones who are able to recognise this have stayed loyal for a long time. Tamarside is a great club with fantastic coaches in their junior set up and provide most of Argyle's youth teams with players. Most of their players grow up with ambition and have shown that by trying to play in as high a standard as they can; given that their most senior club are unfortunate not to have the kind of facilities that others have means it's very difficult to fulfill that ambition with their favoured club. Both great clubs, one with great senior facilities and one with great junior coaching set up...I've been telling Darren and Rowlsey to join forces for 10 years!. A partnerhsip between these two clubs would see a set up that could eventually rival Truro..or pass them on their way back down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sonny jim Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Why on earth would we want to join forces with tamerside dudds, we have 16 youth teams in our set up, the biggest in devon, we are the highest level of charter club, i think we will be just fine without them thanks :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tamarside fc fan Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I cant believe that people are asking who is better.Tamarside had there time,now Parkway are having there time,really think tside would have stayed together if there pitch was up to the correct standard to go higher and progress as a club.It would be a great game if both clubs played against each other wouldnt want to call that one.If im correct didnt Foster play for Tside a few times. I just think we should remember that Tamarside were the first Plymouth based club to make the move across the water in the ECPL and set the standard for every other Plymouth team to follow,you are allways going to get people comparing clubs,thats not a bad thing. Im pleased Parkway are doing so well,and wish them all the best for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foz06 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I cant believe that people are asking who is better.Tamarside had there time,now Parkway are having there time,really think tside would have stayed together if there pitch was up to the correct standard to go higher and progress as a club.It would be a great game if both clubs played against each other wouldnt want to call that one.If im correct didnt Foster play for Tside a few times. I just think we should remember that Tamarside were the first Plymouth based club to make the move across the water in the ECPL and set the standard for every other Plymouth team to follow,you are allways going to get people comparing clubs,thats not a bad thing. Im pleased Parkway are doing so well,and wish them all the best for the future. You are right i did play for them on a few occasions, and i enjoyed it each time i played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A LEGEND! Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 To be fair i do get the feeling that this team will stick together for a long time and will have a great future theres something about them when i've watched them play. a group of friends playing together always helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tamarside fc fan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I watched you play for them foz thought you played well,and i know Pottsy was pleased with your performaces,sometimes get alittle bit fed up when people go on about who is,or was better,does it really matter. Tamarside ECl div 1 side were mainly the same side that won the under 18s league,and the under 18s cup 2 years before,you couldnt get a closer team of mates,im just glad i had the chance to play football with them. I hope Parkway can go on and win the league without dropping any points,records are there to be broken good luck and enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tamarside fc fan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Forgot to mention when Tamarside won the league they played nearly 40 games,league and cup so i can see why Pottsy felt he had to bring players in and rest players,but the players he brought in were all ex Tamarside a part from fozy i think he is mates with guy powney. When Tside won the cup they played over 40 games,come the end players were picking up injuries yes they mite of had a chance to win the league but to be fair Torpoint deserved it.We were a few points behind them and i couldnt see them dropping that many.Im not trying to make any excuses but when youve played 40 games on a saturday and 30 on a sunday the joints and muscles start to get alittle sore. I can remember some of are players were playing saturday,sunday,monday and wednesday come the end it was a very demanding season,but at the end of the day thats football.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 The perennial price of success,I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-4-2 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I think they were out of winning the league realistically before the cup final. Torpoint won the League 5 points clear of 2nd place and Tamarside finished 5th!! Still a good season for them though. 5th place and Cup Winners!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtony! Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 if the parkway boys stay together and add one or two i can see them making a serious challange next season,i think they will better the 5th place tamarside achieved in there first season in the top flight...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tamarside fc fan Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Roche 3 Parkway 2. Does this mean Tamarside are a better side?i wonder The mark of a good side is a team that can grind out a result even when there not playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAVILAD Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Well it looks like this argument has come to an end!! Tamarside never lost a league match , so as the record stands they are the better side without doubt.!! Maybe this has been a lesson learned for the parkway lads who have been over confident and shouting off about this topic?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Baptist Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Exactly, let others do the praising and get on with the job at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Who asked the question regarding this subject ? A bit harsh saying Parkway overconfident and shouting off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midfield four in the wall. Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Well it looks like this argument has come to an end!! Tamarside never lost a league match , so as the record stands they are the better side without doubt.!! Maybe this has been a lesson learned for the parkway lads who have been over confident and shouting off about this topic?? Thats a little harsh tavilad. None of the parkway team have commented on this subject apart from foz06 who only stated that we are not a team who is going to bring in ringers and that he enjoyed His cameo appearances for tamarside. Would hardly say thats "the parkway lads over confident and shouting off"! For the record, we have no complaints about the defeat to roach. We were beten by a better side on the day. Obviously we are dissapointed to have lost our 100% record but as its stands its only 3 points dropped. Promotion is the target set by the club and we are still on course for a sucessful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tamarside fc fan Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 To be fair the pressure is off you lads now,go on and enjoy the rest or the season and win the league,keep plymouth flying high in cornwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I posed the question for discussion and a fair amount of discussion there has been. There are always going to be people who will post silly comments but by and large I think the question has seen some good responses. There is a long way to go to the end of the season and what if Parkway win the remainder of their games. My own view is that having seen both sides play my leaning is slightly towards Tamarside simply because they had Carter. Who knows but thanks for all the input. Lets wait to the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willser ! Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 When we played Tamarside, they had Lee Doncaster upfront ! ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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