Guest tafc.-gaffa Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Duchy hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammo 66 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 first of all dont forget the mining league and if the duchy league is better how come the teams from the west keep winning the junior cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsberg Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 tafc you must play in the duchy league then. does anyone know who was last duchy team to win junior cup and who was it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejman Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 tafc you must play in the duchy league then. does anyone know who was last duchy team to win junior cup and who was it Carlsberg.....classic!!! lol who was the last duchy team to win junior cup and who was it.............???!!! lol !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmanaldo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I believe the last Eastern section winners of the Junior Cup were Godolphin in 2005 (was it Perranporth they beat in the final?!!). Portreath, Mawnan and St Day have won the last 3 for the Western Section but in the previous 12 seasons before that a side from the West only won the trophy on one occasion, here is a list of the last 15 winners of the cup: 1993/94 Biscovey 1994/95 Biscovey 1995/96 St Stephen 1996/97 St Stephen 1997/98 Morwenstow 1998/99 Boscastle 1999/2000 Mawnan 2000/01 Biscovey 2001/02 Morwenstow 2002/03 Morwenstow 2003/04 Morwenstow 2004/05 Godolphin 2005/06 St Day 2006/07 Mawnan Smith 2007/08 Portreath Overall I believe there is very little in the standard of the top teams in the Duchy League, Falmouth Helston League and Mining League. However I believe there is more strength in depth in the Duchy League as there are some superb sides even in the lower leagues and there are very few easy games in the Duchy Leagues. Having played against some Mining League and Falmouth-Helston sides in friendlies I would say that there are more weaker sides in the lower divisions. If you look at the results in the West of Cornwall there also appear to be more 11-0's etc, you get very few of these in the Duchy League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejman Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 well maybe the strikers are not as good in the duchy league?? or better keepers?? or worse in the minning league.....!! not a very good example!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Hill Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Think this debate could roll on for many years to come! When mining leagues and Falmouth helston leagues merge then i would say 'whatever the new leagues are called' would be of higher standard. Any one agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tafc.-gaffa Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Thought id open a can of worms with this! But remember one game in th final doesn't speak for the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A One And A Six Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I agree with you Trispinho, once the Fal Hel/Mining league merger happens, it will be the dominant league. :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovers08 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Only way would i guess be a champions league style where the top three teams of fhl1 and duchy league play each other in a league and then final and the i guess you've got the argument that Mining teams to be included as Troon gotta be one of the fav's for the Junior Cup; Rep teams generally only ever come from a few teams so don't really work in my opionion??? but eh i could be wrong! :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 True this debate could go on forever! I've not come across many Duchy sides or Mining sides, but a pre season friendly against a good St Dennis side would put them up amongst the better Junior teams. As for Falmouth-Helston, I know that Perranporth, St Day and Portreath have succesfully taken the leap over the past few seasons to Senior football. What about sides from the East? I did hear Goldophin mentioned any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tafc.-gaffa Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Im not putting the west down i just believe the players that play duchy often come from good ecpl teams and south western clubs in their career so i believe the standard of footballer is higher the more east you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksy007 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Duchy in my opinion, I remember when at St Austell (2nds) i answered that exact question in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmanaldo Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 True this debate could go on forever! I've not come across many Duchy sides or Mining sides, but a pre season friendly against a good St Dennis side would put them up amongst the better Junior teams. As for Falmouth-Helston, I know that Perranporth, St Day and Portreath have succesfully taken the leap over the past few seasons to Senior football. What about sides from the East? I did hear Goldophin mentioned any others? Several clubs in the past few seasons as far as I'm aware - in the last 10 years the following have moved from Junior to Senior status: Biscovey, Probus, St Stephen, Bere Alston, St Stephens Borough, St Dominick, Dobwalls, St Columb Major, Polperro, Godolphin, St Newlyn East (although since dropped out) - that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovers08 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Im not putting the west down i just believe the players that play duchy often come from good ecpl teams and south western clubs in their career so i believe the standard of footballer is higher the more east you go So you don't think any of that happens in the west/!!! thats just stupid that happens in the whole bloody country!!!! look at Mawnan or Fal Ath a number of there players have dropped down....most teams have a few players at least that have senior football exp. jesus we played Frogpool last season and it was like playing a who's who of senior football from 5-10years previous!!!!as most people have agreed it really is the endless argument!! beyond playing a champions league format how would you judge it....also there is a few junior teams who are paying!!! a joke but yes its true ...so how do judge them...Troon for sure if the rumours are true are paying (i don't know if any in the East are) but they are trying to gurantee senior footy next season>>>>>>>it truley is a endless aegument...but to say only teams in the E have players coming down the league is stupid! :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Woody - you want to get out more!! Duchy by a mile!!! :smiley20: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer Follower Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 You can add Morwenstow and Lanreath to your list,Woodmanaldo. Good teams in both sides of the County but the only time that they meet competively is in the Junior Cup Final on Easter Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammo 66 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 this is a pointless argument really because everyone will stick up for their own league . the only time two teams play each other from the east and west is in the junior cup final so until there is a new competition thats all you can judge on. so until easter monday next year the mining league is the best as portreath are the holders. game over :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I'm pleased this question has come up. I noticed there are very few, if any, pre-season friendlies between the east and west which is a shame. I've no idea which is the strongest but it isn't really important. What is important is the strength of football in the county as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Regarding Pablo's point, here at Grampound, on the border betwen east and west, we make a point of playing against teams from the west each year. Being a team in Duchy 2 (ie the third division) over the years we always seem to do pretty well against the western teams we play - this pre-season results are as below, but before anyone else says it, they were just friendlies! Marazion (FH2) 0-1 Grampound Grampound 1-0 Falmouth Town (FH1) Grampound 2-0 Threemilestone (Mining1) Our friendly results against eastern teams were :- Grampound 2-3 Mevagissey (Duchy1) Grampound 0-4 Foxhole (Duchy Premier) Friendly results maynot tell you very much, but in my experience over the years I think that the quality of the best teams is about the same, but there seems to be a lot more depth of quality in the Duchy League. Today - Grampound were awful and gifted Delabole 3 goals, losing 4-2 after dominating most of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Cheers AJW. Unfortunately I live in Sussex and don't see as many games as I'd like in the Duchy. I am just going by what I see here on this forum and saw very little offers of friendlies between the two areas pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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