Craze Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 Truro City owner Dicky Evans says the club are aiming to reach League Two within the next three or four years. The White Tigers won promotion back to National League South this month after winning the Southern Premier League South play-offs. The club is owned by Evans, who also controls the Cornish Pirates rugby side and is in the process of a £2.5m crowdfunding campaign for the clubs. "We're looking to get promoted as soon as we can," Evans told BBC Sport. The club currently play at Plymouth Parkway's Bolitho Park ground, with plans for a new venue in Cornwall in the pipeline. The White Tigers, who have twice reached the sixth tier of English football before, hope to have their new home ready in time for the start of the 2024-25 season. The plan is for the ground to be able to be expanded so that Cornish Pirates would be able to share it and have a base suitable to play in the Premiership. "The minimum budget is £500,000, so if we get some more money out of this crowdfunding then the budget will go up," added Evans. "Paul Wotton's a great coach so we're looking to get into the English Football League in three or four years' time. "It's two more promotions and do a Wrexham." Would love to see it, but no chance. The budgets (crowds/followings) are huge in comparison to what TCFC have/will have. Buckland Jim and Soccer Follower 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 League 2 in a few years time. Was he drunk when he says that ? They have got no ground , no players on full time contracts , no fan base and are crowdfunding to keep going. Honestly some of the rubbish you hear 😂 Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john black Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 People said the same when Truro said they would win the Vase at Wembly !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 "People used to laugh at me when I said I wanted to be a comedian. Well they're not laughing now." - Bob Monkhouse Town Fan, Scott Foley - The Jam Tart and Craze 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckland Jim Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, john black said: People said the same when Truro said they would win the Vase at Wembly !!! Bit of a difference 😂. There's more chance of my missus allowing me to have an affair with a supermodel 🤣 Town Fan and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Martin Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 People laughed at me a few years ago when I said one day truro would be playing in the same league as torquay. 😂 Both Sides of the Tamar, Buckland Jim and Ian Pethick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 2018-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils@Dusk Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 Maybe the Kenyan sun has finally got to him. 😂 Both Sides of the Tamar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Sell the dream for potential investors. Without someone coming in with millions I think Truro are still playing well beyond a sustainable level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan of all ball Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Agree doing fantastic. Do worry about the ground/finances going forward. Don’t see the ground being ready for a long time. Also don’t see many will queue up to lob some personal money at it in hope of nice return on investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEMAGPIE Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 Everyone laughed at Mousehole when they first made noises about progression, the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Budget needed to do what Mousehole have done is very different to what is being proposed here. Clubs in the national league are spending hundreds of thousands a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Craze said: Budget needed to do what Mousehole have done is very different to what is being proposed here. Clubs in the national league are spending hundreds of thousands a month. Several full time clubs in the National League North/South now. Truro are in with some serious competition next season (Paul Wotton mentioned in his comments after the Bodmin game that they can't match the money that is on offer to the players he has targeted). As an example, AFC Fylde (who won the NLN last season) have a full time squad, and their ground, playing budget and off the field set up wouldn't look out of place in league division two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Masters Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 No change here then, I heard it all before, play it again Sam! Devils@Dusk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted July 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Peter Masters said: No change here then, I heard it all before, play it again Sam! Going to need more than (loose) change, need some serious cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEMAGPIE Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Time to get behind our Cornish team and fingers crossed they can have another successful season, may be a big ask to progress but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Holding their own in the NLS would be fine for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: Holding their own in the NLS would be fine for me! This. The dream would be national league and crowds in the 4-figures every week. To go two steps further is just mind bending. The amount of structure that needs to be put in place to support that needs to be met with serious action. A proper academy, proper community engagement and a willingness for the Cornish population to get behind the club like never before. Serious serious cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Craze said: This. The dream would be national league and crowds in the 4-figures every week. To go two steps further is just mind bending. The amount of structure that needs to be put in place to support that needs to be met with serious action. A proper academy, proper community engagement and a willingness for the Cornish population to get behind the club like never before. Serious serious cash. Just out of interest, do the Pirates rugby team have all of this? Not digging at you, just don't know as I don't follow the egg chasing game. No idea what sort of gates they get either. Several years ago, the stated ambition was to get to the Premiership (they did lose twice in promotion play off finals) but seem a way off that now. Given though the seemingly disastrous state of all the club's collective finances in this division, it would hardly seem to be a sunlit uplands. I would guess that, when the Pirates eventually move to the new facility at Langarth, the Mennaye will be developed for housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Way Of The Park said: Just out of interest, do the Pirates rugby team have all of this? Not digging at you, just don't know as I don't follow the egg chasing game. No idea what sort of gates they get either. Several years ago, the stated ambition was to get to the Premiership (they did lose twice in promotion play off finals) but seem a way off that now. Given though the seemingly disastrous state of all the club's collective finances in this division, it would hardly seem to be a sunlit uplands. I would guess that, when the Pirates eventually move to the new facility at Langarth, the Mennaye will be developed for housing. Definitely not taken as a criticism or dig. I guess the big thing is we're comparing rugby, its league structure and finances, with football. And it literally is a different ball game. The sums of money being spent in the national league are eye watering. I'd imagine Yeovil, Torquay and Scunthorpe will have quite a bit of clout. I'd love to see how Truro's budget compares, I'm assuming close to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Craze said: Definitely not taken as a criticism or dig. I guess the big thing is we're comparing rugby, its league structure and finances, with football. And it literally is a different ball game. The sums of money being spent in the national league are eye watering. I'd imagine Yeovil, Torquay and Scunthorpe will have quite a bit of clout. I'd love to see how Truro's budget compares, I'm assuming close to bottom. Cheers Mr Craze. Yes, PSF's are no real guide, but it looks to me like Torquay and Yeovil will be the pacesetters in the NLS. The matter of them being full time, and still having the staffing structure to support that, is going to be a big factor. Looking at the sheer distances and some of the away days coming up for Truro, it is really challenging to sustain for a club that is part time. There are bound to be a few epic end of season treks happen as a result of what is thrown up by cancellations and rescheduled matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 The big thing Truro need to start doing is bringing through Cornish youngsters who are good enough for league football. Big old catchment area down there that you would think at the earliest age groups they'd have first dibs on. Got to develop the youth side of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Way Of The Park said: I would guess that, when the Pirates eventually move to the new facility at Langarth, the Mennaye will be developed for housing. Probably not! I seem to recall being told somewhere that they don’t own it , but they pay the amateur club to use it each week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Craze said: The big thing Truro need to start doing is bringing through Cornish youngsters who are good enough for league football. Big old catchment area down there that you would think at the earliest age groups they'd have first dibs on. Got to develop the youth side of the club They seem to have made a good start on that with the success of their under 18's and St Pirans side over the last few years, and Paul Wotton has got a few of these players involved with the first team in the last couple of pre season campaigns. Even with the reserves playing SWPL football next season, still a big gap to the NLS and 1st team football. Wonder if getting some of these lads loaned to Western League clubs has been looked at, and if George Newton's progress at Tavistock will be closely watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Hocking Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Probably not! I seem to recall being told somewhere that they don’t own it , but they pay the amateur club to use it each week! The freehold is owned by Cornwall Council. The principal tenant is Penzance & Newlyn RFC and my understanding is that the Pirates rent it from them but it’s a very convoluted relationship - which I don’t pretend to understand - because it’s simultaneously the case that the Pirates technically play as the Penzance & Newlyn RFC 1st team. Any rugby people out there who can shed light on this I’d be genuinely interested - but anything more detailed probably belongs in a different thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 Re the under 18s, I believe that Ian Gosling has recently been appointed as their new coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 Yes Truro have a successful u18's team but we're they not brought in from another club. A successful youth set can be found at Wendron where they bring youth players through. Yes there are a few other clubs locally as well, but most bring in the majority of their team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 24/07/2023 at 21:34, THEMAGPIE said: Time to get behind our Cornish team and fingers crossed they can have another successful season, may be a big ask to progress but you never know. The problem is that, at the moment, they don't feel like a Cornish team. Probably none of the team live in Cornwall, don't train in Cornwall, don't play in Cornwall. Named after a Cornish city and that is as far as it goes. sportsman10 and Falmouthman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Throw 3 Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 Pedantic but I think they train at Salt Mill, Saltash. Fully agree though, not a Cornish team. Some of the players were rumoured to be on the way out had they not continued the upcoming season at Bolitho and heading to Parkway. So when they eventually move "home" it could cost them some Plymouth based players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 That rumour has been around for a while and one reason they were not in a rush to get back to Cornwall. Most of the Plymouth based lads happy with a game on their doorstep every other week now. Believe that was one of the reason Dan Sullivan and Ryan Brett left Taunton was the travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Throw 3 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 At any level relevant to this whole forum I've always believed a home game should be just that, at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66740677 Graham Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, Way Of The Park said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/66740677 Its good news but no chance of L2 any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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