Bodmin Town

[Hetty]

What on earth is happening at Bodmin Town. Their squad is getting worse and worse each week. Granted they have been unlucky with a couple of injury’s but the Lack of discipline is not helping either 

From what I know they haven’t got a small budget either. I know they’re  going through a transition after Darren but honestly did anyone expect it to be this bad? Questions have to be raised on how this healthy budget is being spent. 

they desperately need to get some quality in, but who would go there now? From the outside it looks shambolic 

[silly billy]

54 minutes ago, Hetty said:

What an earth is going on at Bodmin Town. Their squad is getting worse and worse each week. Granted they have been unlucky with a couple of injury’s but the Lack of discipline is not helping either 

From what I know they haven’t got a small budget either. I know they’re  going through a transition after Darren but honestly did anyone expect it to be this bad? Questions have to be raised on how this healthy budget is being spent. 

they desperately need to get some quality in, but who would go there now? From the outside it looks shambolic 

Couple of things, firstly what's the budget? Would be interesting to know.

Secondly, Bodmin aren't doing much worse than they were in the last 3/4 previous years. Will probably take a couple of seasons to get a true picture of how things are doing under a new manager.

[Hetty]

When you have average players earning almost triple figures it gives you an idea that they aren’t short of a few quid   

[sportsman10]

Just now, silly billy said:

Couple of things, firstly what's the budget? Would be interesting to know.

Secondly, Bodmin aren't doing much worse than they were in the last 3/4 previous years. Will probably take a couple of seasons to get a true picture of how things are doing under a new manager.

Depends what the ambition of Bodmin is.  Would have a thought a big club  great location for player recruitment  would be desperate to follow Falmouth , helston etc out of that league. 
you look at that squad Bodmin have its million miles away from being good enough. 
It was an odd managerial appointment in first place personally 

[Plympep]

Could be a big managerial move soon if the rumours true 

[100%cornish]

What about asking Neil Warnock taking over hes not doing nothing and does know his way around Bodmin the amount of times hes been there i bet Darren comes back its a shame seeing such a great club on the decline the Bodmin team use to strike fear into other clubs playing there they where 1 hell of a club and hopefully they can rebuild and start again they do have some bad injuries with some of there players at the moment like Lewis Webber but the team they got there now is just not good enough .

From what i have seen of the team list they have  quality player in Jordan Hogan the rest just average its ok calling on players like Kian Burns to play the odd game here and there they want to do all they can to get Adam Carter , Levi Landricombe back and build the team around them 

 

[Ian Pethick]

17 minutes ago, 100%cornish said:

What about asking Neil Warnock taking over hes not doing nothing and does know his way around Bodmin the amount of times hes been there i bet Darren comes back its a shame seeing such a great club on the decline the Bodmin team use to strike fear into other clubs playing there they where 1 hell of a club and hopefully they can rebuild and start again they do have some bad injuries with some of there players at the moment like Lewis Webber but the team they got there now is just not good enough .

From what i have seen of the team list they have  quality player in Jordan Hogan the rest just average its ok calling on players like Kian Burns to play the odd game here and there they want to do all they can to get Adam Carter , Levi Landricombe back and build the team around them 

 

Many people said that Darren Gilbert was the glue holding the club together. Sounds like they are gradually adding new blood behind the scenes, but it may take a few changes of manager to get things going on the field. Adam Carter and Levi Landricombe are great players but , painful as it may be, perhaps a long term rebuilding job around younger and more local players will be needed (as has happened at Liskeard and Falmouth).

[Footy Detective]

Love them or hate them and lets be honest they have had plenty of hate on here over the years , Bodmins record is outstanding let down I would say by lack of ambition and the reason the club finds itself in its current position. Carter and the Landricombes I’m afraid are in their twilight years as far as football is concerned and WOTP is right in that they need young blood with as always a few old heads at the back.

[silly billy]

Levi and Carter have both played for Bodmin over the past couple of seasons and didn't do a lot. 

[Ian Pethick]

14 minutes ago, Footy Detective said:

Love them or hate them and lets be honest they have had plenty of hate on here over the years , Bodmins record is outstanding let down I would say by lack of ambition and the reason the club finds itself in its current position. Carter and the Landricombes I’m afraid are in their twilight years as far as football is concerned and WOTP is right in that they need young blood with as always a few old heads at the back.

Bodmin Town were always a club that punched well above its weight, this was all down to Darren Gilbert's hard work and passion for the club.  Looking at the Western and Southern Leagues now, they contain clubs that Bodmin used to finish above in leagues and beat in cup finals, and have now all powered past them. Doesn't feel like they were ever the same once the FA pyramid system kicked in, and promition effectively became mandatory. The clubs that have moved forward get more people through the gate, have large groups of hard working volunteers and committees/chairs with a vision and strategy for both the commercial and playing side. The days of successful clubs being powered by one or two individuals (even with deep pockets) has probably gone.

[supportcornishfootball]

It’s an interesting set up at bodmin and results change week to week. It’s still very early in the season but I do see that on here so much is made of farming out players for youth, youth is great - when they are good enough. Far too often in the teams youth is being pushed in favour of experience and it’s not working, newquay is the perfect example of this this season. 
 

you can’t put a price on an experienced CB leader or a striker in this league 

[Ian Pethick]

Non substantiated rumours at the weekend that Matt Hayden is under pressure at Bodmin. The inevitable "Dane Bunney to take over" stories were also knocking about.

[Plympep]

1 hour ago, Way Of The Park said:

Non substantiated rumours at the weekend that Matt Hayden is under pressure at Bodmin. The inevitable "Dane Bunney to take over" stories were also knocking about.

There’s only one Mann for the job 

[sportsman10]

Need about 7-8 new players to be anywhere near competitive. Current squad is miles off the standard.   so whoever does come in would have to come in with some pretty good contacts and players willing to follow 

[cornish leg end]

For such a successful club in Cornwall bodmins problems have started from off the pitch. The older guys that were in the committee are no longer in there. It’s been free fall for 5-6 years now. Getting rid of the second team that was east Cornwall at the time. both teams being run like they separate clubs. They seem to think that money brings in the players but in actual fact the players they have are poor and Matt can’t bring anything positive out of them. He’s not got the best man management skills and good players don’t want to play for him. Bodmin has a good young group of players coming through the town that have never been given the chance to play for Bodmin. They need to get rid of Matt and start again. This season is already a write off. 

[FootballChat]

@Dave Deacon are we just not allowed to post anything to do with Lee Mann anymore? Or are you just deleting posts for fun now?

[Dave Deacon]

Keep it football based and you won’t have a problem 👍

[Ian Pethick]

18 hours ago, cornish leg end said:

For such a successful club in Cornwall bodmins problems have started from off the pitch. The older guys that were in the committee are no longer in there. It’s been free fall for 5-6 years now. Getting rid of the second team that was east Cornwall at the time. both teams being run like they separate clubs. They seem to think that money brings in the players but in actual fact the players they have are poor and Matt can’t bring anything positive out of them. He’s not got the best man management skills and good players don’t want to play for him. Bodmin has a good young group of players coming through the town that have never been given the chance to play for Bodmin. They need to get rid of Matt and start again. This season is already a write off. 

The closest comparison to the Bodmin of today is probably the Liskeard of 7-8 seasons ago. This means that it's probably going to get worse before it gets better, it will be a long road back and they will need to rebuild around a core group of local players and new committee members (as The Blues have done). The short term fix would be to get a new boss in, who might bring financial backing and chuck it around on new faces. Problem is though, who will want to go there? They will be picking up players that the step 5 clubs don't want, and who aren't fancied by the likes of St Blazey.

[Dave Deacon]

Who do the decent local players play for?

[Yourhavingalaugh]

9 hours ago, Way Of The Park said:

The closest comparison to the Bodmin of today is probably the Liskeard of 7-8 seasons ago. This means that it's probably going to get worse before it gets better, it will be a long road back and they will need to rebuild around a core group of local players and new committee members (as The Blues have done). The short term fix would be to get a new boss in, who might bring financial backing and chuck it around on new faces. Problem is though, who will want to go there? They will be picking up players that the step 5 clubs don't want, and who aren't fancied by the likes of St Blazey.

Although the standard of player currently playing for Bodmin may be lower than expected, it would appear that the manager has a good core of players than turn up every week. Surely this better for the club as a whole, rather than bringing in players which may result in the team finishing 6th rather than 12th at the end of season.

[Hetty]

5 minutes ago, Yourhavingalaugh said:

Although the standard of player currently playing for Bodmin may be lower than expected, it would appear that the manager has a good core of players than turn up every week. Surely this better for the club as a whole, rather than bringing in players which may result in the team finishing 6th rather than 12th at the end of season.

Struggling to see how finishing 6th is worse than finishing 12th 

do you think the current crop are capable of finishing 12th in poorest swpl league there has ever been? 

[leedsunited]

23 minutes ago, Hetty said:

Struggling to see how finishing 6th is worse than finishing 12th 

do you think the current crop are capable of finishing 12th in poorest swpl league there has ever been? 

That group wouldn't finish 12th.

Be lucky to finish above the bottom 4. 

With Penzance, St. Dennis nailed on to be the bottom two, Bodmin unless a huge drastic change in direction will be just above them. 

Your right it's a dog crap standard to not be competitive in this league is shambolic. 

Look at Falmouth & Torpoint , walked their respective leagues last year, took one step up (credit to them) but are struggling in the Western League. The difference between the two leagues is now for the first time in along time, noticeable. 

[John Mead]

It will take years to re-establish the strength of step 6 football in Cornwall - and to a lesser extent in Devon. Along with the sides already promoted to step 5, more will be taken next season, with little chance of any relegation from 5 to 6. If you remove 60 (4 squads) of the best players from the SWPL, it's bound to lower the standard of the league. Until things eventually settle down and relegation from 5 to 6 actually happens, there is no way to redress the issue.

[Ian Pethick]

12 hours ago, Yourhavingalaugh said:

Although the standard of player currently playing for Bodmin may be lower than expected, it would appear that the manager has a good core of players than turn up every week. Surely this better for the club as a whole, rather than bringing in players which may result in the team finishing 6th rather than 12th at the end of season.

Looks like the same issues as last season though, 33 players already used in the first 9 league games. Don't know if it's through injuries or unavailability, but looks like a revolving door every match. 

[middle mans mate]

Strange that they've only gained points in midweek games....💁‍♂️🔔🔔

[supportcornishfootball]

I watched them play the G in a midweek game…. Few ‘additional’ players there 

[100%cornish]

Levi Landricombe sometimes plays for them in midweek and also Kian Burns its not really fare because weekends they usually have a load of kids playing for them and get stuffed like last week in Midweek Levi goes and gets a hat trick also this duel registration should be stopped like the River Allen fiasco he turns out for Blazey then 2 days later he plays for Saltash ,say he got a serious injury playing for Saltash i bet Blazey wouldnt be happy an dhes the main man and hes the one that will win the league for Blazey this year no one can stop then Liskeard blow hot and Cold but Wendron may cause a surprise or 2 

[Tommy Matthews]

A few years ago Argyle had a team in the league, one week they’d have a team of talented kids who’d play well but lacked the physicality to compete. The next week they’d have first team players back from injury in the side and beat the top of the league. 
It upsets the balance of the league and creates a nonsense at times. 
Just an observation that’s all. 

[silly billy]

2 hours ago, 100%cornish said:

Levi Landricombe sometimes plays for them in midweek and also Kian Burns its not really fare because weekends they usually have a load of kids playing for them and get stuffed like last week in Midweek Levi goes and gets a hat trick also this duel registration should be stopped like the River Allen fiasco he turns out for Blazey then 2 days later he plays for Saltash ,say he got a serious injury playing for Saltash i bet Blazey wouldnt be happy an dhes the main man and hes the one that will win the league for Blazey this year no one can stop then Liskeard blow hot and Cold but Wendron may cause a surprise or 2 

Wadebridge just beat the all Star team of St Blazey 👍

[leedsunited]

Hearing reports that Matt Hayden has been relieved of his duties at The Priory 🎉

Exciting times ahead if what we are hearing is correct ...

[Dave Deacon]

21 minutes ago, leedsunited said:

Hearing reports that Matt Hayden has been relieved of his duties at The Priory 🎉

Exciting times ahead if what we are hearing is correct ...

Yep confirmed by club on twitter : "Bodmin Town announce that the decision has been taken to part company with Matt Hayden as First Team Manager. We would like to place on record our thanks to Matt and wish him well for the future."

[RAPPO]

Was always going to be a nightmare for anyone following Gilbey!! Like Moyes trying to replace Fergie at Utd in Cornish football terms! Bodmin a big club in these parts, tough job for anyone going in and trying to emulate a snippet of what Gilbs achieved. Good luck to them and to Matt for the future ⚽️👍

[Ian Pethick]

Bodmin announced the signing of Lyle Johnson from Liskeard just hours before Matt Hayden was removed. He either didn't know what was coming, or is it a player brought in at the request of the next manager?

[sportsman10]

Was the complete wrong appointment in the first place. They should have taken some time after Darren announced he was leaving instead of just hiring to guy Darren brought into the club.
Hope they get the right person in now 

[cornish leg end]

Good move for Bodmin Matt wasn’t the guy in the first place. but whoever comes in has got a massive job on there hands. Club bringing players in with out a manager? They have way to many signed on never the same squad each game. Massive changes need to happen behind the scenes and on the pitch. 

[Footy Detective]

On 19/09/2022 at 08:04, Way Of The Park said:

The inevitable "Dane Bunney to take over" stories were also knocking about.

Of course he’s the next manager at least two of his alter ego’s have already in as many words said so on this thread.

In my opinion another disappointing appointment if true.

[AmberArmy]

Whoever comes in might have greater pedigree than Matt on the pitch, but they’re in for a big shock as to how bad things are behind the scenes.  Pretty much non-existent committee, ageing volunteers all wanting out, and a local townsfolk that have been alienated over the years.  Good luck to them … they’ll need it. 

[golong]

Only way is up, luckily for them. Club is in a rut! 

[beacon]

7 hours ago, AmberArmy said:

Whoever comes in might have greater pedigree than Matt on the pitch, but they’re in for a big shock as to how bad things are behind the scenes.  Pretty much non-existent committee, ageing volunteers all wanting out, and a local townsfolk that have been alienated over the years.  Good luck to them … they’ll need it. 

Not sure who or how the next manager is going to create interest from the townsfolk of Bodmin even at the height of success nobody was interested..But it also had no backing or help from the town council who owned everything at the time 

[Marcus Grose]

23 minutes ago, beacon said:

Not sure who or how the next manager is going to create interest from the townsfolk of Bodmin even at the height of success nobody was interested..But it also had no backing or help from the town council who owned everything at the time 

As I understand it,all the supermarkets in the town were more than willing to allow the club to use their notice boards to advertise games etc.The club never used them.Bodmin has always been known locally as 'the secret club'.Ask a question to anyone of the people in charge and the stock answer was 'I don't know,nobody tells me anything' ! Secretary,chairman,president,same answer every time.No wonder locals aren't interested.

[We Two]

At whatever level of football, if the backroom people who are responsible for the clubs culture are not in touch with the reality of what makes a club tick, that club will eventually come unstuck.
The customers through the gate should be the lifeblood of clubs at this level and clubs need to recognise that fact of life.
As any business will tell you, lose the rspect of your customer base and success will be a distant wish.

[beacon]

30 minutes ago, Monsoon said:

As I understand it,all the supermarkets in the town were more than willing to allow the club to use their notice boards to advertise games etc.The club never used them.Bodmin has always been known locally as 'the secret club'.Ask a question to anyone of the people in charge and the stock answer was 'I don't know,nobody tells me anything' ! Secretary,chairman,president,same answer every time.No wonder locals aren't interested.

Hopefully everything will/can change starting now the last 5 years have been poorly run in every aspect 

[sportsman10]

If you don’t engage the local town or try to get them involved with the club you have no chance. Maybe it stems back to never having an attachment to the players with so many coming and going.  probably never heard of half of them. No local yougsters in the team to get behind.  Maybe now is a good time for a complete reset on the whole club. 

[Cornishram]

Hats off to matt for getting the job in the first place,I think they need a manager with experience to steady the ship.

Lazy decision getting matt in so hopefully they spend a bit of time and get the right manager in

[The Town Man]

Trying to use local players would seem the most sensible long-term strategy, although it may be painful short-term. 

A manager such as Glyn Hooper with all his youth connections would be a good start.

Bring the kids in and you may get a few parent helpers and start building a community club mentality again.

Always seemed to be a big revolving door policy at the club in latter years with signing lots of players on cover. Decent midweek teams but a struggle at the weekend. Doesn't breed player loyalty.

[Both Sides of the Tamar]

On 21/09/2022 at 17:29, middle mans mate said:

Strange that they've only gained points in midweek games....💁‍♂️🔔🔔

Got a point at winless Lanson with a midweek hat trick from Levi L 😞 

[cornish leg end]

Bodmin have always wanted to spend money else where rather than good players the town had over the years. Can think of good players that would have done well at Bodmin over the years. Bodmins roots have never been set in the town. 

[Dave Deacon]

32 minutes ago, cornish leg end said:

Can think of good players that would have done well at Bodmin over the years

Such as?

[shots]

16 hours ago, Footy Detective said:

Of course he’s the next manager at least two of his alter ego’s have already in as many words said so on this thread.

In my opinion another disappointing appointment if true.

Why?

[Buckland Jim]

Just confirmed on Bodmin twitter what we all guessed would happen. Dane Bunney unveiled as the new gaffer.