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EAST

Axminster Town            1-1         Ivybridge Town

Crediton United              0-1         Bovey Tracey

Elmore                              3-1         Torridgeside

Holsworthy                    1-0         Brixham

Newton Abbot Spurs      3-0         Okehampton Argyle

Ottery St Mary                1-2         Elburton Villa

Plymouth Marjon            2-0         Honiton Town

Sidmouth Town               1-5         Torpoint Athletic

Stoke Gabriel & TP          0-4         Dartmouth

Torrington                      0-0         Cullompton Rangers

             

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Dobwalls                          4-1         Newquay

Falmouth Town               4-2         Camelford

Godolphin Atlantic          P-P         Wadebridge Town

Penryn Athletic                P-P         St Austell

Penzance                         1-3         Bodmin Town

Wendron United             2-5         Callington Town

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4 minutes ago, JonColenzo said:

Certainly been a rough night high up on Bodmin Moor mate, in work at 7-30 this morning with not a lot of sleep 😴 

What sort of job you got that you can sleep??

6 minutes ago, RAPPO said:

Won’t be the last I don’t think JC? Got out at 6am to collect my bins about 50 yards down the Cul-de-sac! My cat followed me and I had to carry him back as well! Poor bugger could hardly stand up!! 😂🙄⚽️🤔

Surely you are still quicker than your bins Rappo!!!🤣

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34 minutes ago, sportsman10 said:

Good solid win for Bodmin. These blank weekends for the western league clubs mus be like Xmas for Darren Gilbert  . How many players are actually signed on ? Must be biggest squad in Cornwall. 

Blank weekends?

36 out of the 40 Western League clubs played today.

You’ve embarrassed yourself there.

 

Perhaps Bodmin just played to their obvious potential today against a struggling Penzance side?

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I don’t normally comment on the forum as I’m a match official and I don’t like to get involved with comments etc, But today I would just like to thank Wendron and especially there physio and Peter Thorne for all your help today. During the first half where I was an assistant referee I started to become unwell. At half time the pain became so bad I was doubled over, The referee called for the medic and then the decision was made I needed an ambulance, Peter called for the ambulance but was told this could take up to 4 hours so he said this was unacceptable and drove me to hospital himself. The club were great with keeping my partner updated and even arranged for my car to be drove home as it’s needed tomorrow by my partner. I am back home now with strong pain killers and if get bad again I’m to return to hospital, if not I will be seeing my specialist team at the start of the week. I really can’t take you enough for your help today, it’s the first time I have been unable to finish a match. Also a massive thank you to Anita who had just done 90 mins on another pitch, got changed and warmed up but then got changed again and did the second half in my place. 
 

Now to listen to my body, get my Crohn’s disease and Ileostomy back under control and back on the pitch when I’m ready. 

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4 minutes ago, Pitch Care Guru said:

I see we Callington Town, have been nominated for team of the week. Maybe we should step aside and nominate the Wendron back room Team. Fantastic club to visit and no surprise how they dealt with a difficult set of circumstances.

Steve Blatchford 

Callington Town Chairman 

That’s a great idea but I wouldn’t know who to talk to about this. 

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3 hours ago, Pitch Care Guru said:

I see we Callington Town, have been nominated for team of the week. Maybe we should step aside and nominate the Wendron back room Team. Fantastic club to visit and no surprise how they dealt with a difficult set of circumstances.

Steve Blatchford 

Callington Town Chairman 

Saw this game, Callington bossed it all afternoon with an impressive front line I would have to say. 

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15 hours ago, Andyjenkin said:

I don’t normally comment on the forum as I’m a match official and I don’t like to get involved with comments etc, But today I would just like to thank Wendron and especially there physio and Peter Thorne for all your help today. During the first half where I was an assistant referee I started to become unwell. At half time the pain became so bad I was doubled over, The referee called for the medic and then the decision was made I needed an ambulance, Peter called for the ambulance but was told this could take up to 4 hours so he said this was unacceptable and drove me to hospital himself. The club were great with keeping my partner updated and even arranged for my car to be drove home as it’s needed tomorrow by my partner. I am back home now with strong pain killers and if get bad again I’m to return to hospital, if not I will be seeing my specialist team at the start of the week. I really can’t take you enough for your help today, it’s the first time I have been unable to finish a match. Also a massive thank you to Anita who had just done 90 mins on another pitch, got changed and warmed up but then got changed again and did the second half in my place. 
 

Now to listen to my body, get my Crohn’s disease and Ileostomy back under control and back on the pitch when I’m ready. 

All the best Andy. Hope you’re feeling in no time. Will pass on your thanks to those involved. Busy day for Pete yesterday, believe he picked the other assistant up from Stithians after his car broke down! 

3 hours ago, Pitch Care Guru said:

I see we Callington Town, have been nominated for team of the week. Maybe we should step aside and nominate the Wendron back room Team. Fantastic club to visit and no surprise how they dealt with a difficult set of circumstances.

Steve Blatchford 

Callington Town Chairman 

Thank you but sure you’ve rightfully deserved it. Wasn’t at the game yesterday but beaten by much the better side by all accounts. 

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18 hours ago, Andyjenkin said:

I don’t normally comment on the forum as I’m a match official and I don’t like to get involved with comments etc, But today I would just like to thank Wendron and especially there physio and Peter Thorne for all your help today. During the first half where I was an assistant referee I started to become unwell. At half time the pain became so bad I was doubled over, The referee called for the medic and then the decision was made I needed an ambulance, Peter called for the ambulance but was told this could take up to 4 hours so he said this was unacceptable and drove me to hospital himself. The club were great with keeping my partner updated and even arranged for my car to be drove home as it’s needed tomorrow by my partner. I am back home now with strong pain killers and if get bad again I’m to return to hospital, if not I will be seeing my specialist team at the start of the week. I really can’t take you enough for your help today, it’s the first time I have been unable to finish a match. Also a massive thank you to Anita who had just done 90 mins on another pitch, got changed and warmed up but then got changed again and did the second half in my place. 
 

Now to listen to my body, get my Crohn’s disease and Ileostomy back under control and back on the pitch when I’m ready. 

Fair play to Wendron. They really have got an impressive set up down there. This epitomises everything they are about as a club! 👏 Needless to say, I hope you recover soon Andy. Look after yourself and keep well! 👍

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Report – Saturday 27th November

Sidmouth Town 1-5 Torpoint Athletic

SWPL Premier Division East

With Robbie Morris at The Manstone Lane

 

Torpoint Athletic bounced back in style from the last two league defeats home to Okehampton and away to Torridgesideplus a FA Vase defeat with this comprehensive victory over The Vikings at Manstone Lane on Saturday afternoon, with Curtis Damerell getting a brace as The Point raced into 4-0 lead by half time.

The match was only six minutes old when Torpoint’s Paul Heveranhad a looping shot from the edge of the area which was well saved by a full stretch save from home keeper Bradon Millford.

Ten minutes later Aaron Edwards for the visitors took a shot from 18 yards which well saved by Millford as he put the ball around the post.

On the 26th minute, Ryan Richards for the visitors ran clear of the home defence and took a shot from 12 yards which was well blocked by Millford.

On the half hour mark the home side had their first real chance of the match when Jake Boyland shot from 18 yards which just went wide of the far post.

On the 32nd minute Torpoint took the lead when Paul Heveran shot home from close range when he was put through with Ryan Richards and Charlie Hardcastle set him up with some good build up play.

Three minutes later the visitors double their lead when the home defence misjudged the ball for Curtis Damerell to take full advantage to shoot home into an empty net.

On the 37th minute Callum Thompson was brought down in the area by a home defender for Damerell to covert the penalty and extend the lead further.

Then five minutes before break, Ryan Richards put the game beyond Sidmouth as he ran through The Vikings defence and clinically finished from 12 yards.

On the hour mark, Sam Hillson headed home from close rangefrom a Charlie Hardcastle superb free kick from the corner of the pitch for the visitors fifth goal.

On the 71st minute the home side got a consolation goal when Will Jenkins fired from 12 yards past visiting keeper Jason Peters.

Then on the 80th minute Lewis Young for visitors shot from 12 yards for the home keeper Brandon Millford to save with his feet.

 

 

Sidmouth Town: B. Millford, J. Gibson (J. Howe 65), M. Salter (D. Patmore 65), M. Colson, B. Clay, J. Miller, E. Anderson, W. Jenkins, D. Burwood (B. Latham 70), J. Boyland, F. Bodor.

Subs not used: All Used.

Bookings: None.

Sidmouth Scorer: W. Jenkin 71.

 

Torpoint Athletic: J. Peters, P. Heveran, D. Hicks, L. Pacey, S. Hillson, P. Bradley, C. Thompson (L. Young 58), A. Edwards (J. Forrest 58), C. Damerell, R. Richards, C. Hardcastle.    

Subs not used: All Used.

Bookings: None.

Torpoint Scorers: P. Heveran 32, C. Damerell 35, 37 (pen), R. Richards 39, S. Hillson.

 

Referee: Luke McFarne (Paignton)

Att: 41

MOM: Curtis Damerell (Torpoint Athletic)

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16 hours ago, Pitch Care Guru said:

I see we Callington Town, have been nominated for team of the week. Maybe we should step aside and nominate the Wendron back room Team. Fantastic club to visit and no surprise how they dealt with a difficult set of circumstances.

Steve Blatchford 

Callington Town Chairman 

Nice touch that from you Mr Chairman, and a good Away win for Callington Town against a very good Wendron side 👏🏻

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Dobwalls 4 Newquay 1

This was a lively encounter with both sides going for the win.

Newquay took the lead against the run of play but found themselves behind as the hosts levelled shortly after before taking the lead from the penalty spot.

I thought Dobwalls could moan but they were outdone by the constant challenging of every decision by the referee who did well to contain things.

Midway through the 2nd half the visitors striker was shown a yellow and sent to the sin bin for dissent, not long after it was their skipper who was shown a straight red for hurling foul language at the official.

If more referees took this stance it would stamp out the abuse received by the officials which may encourage more to take up the job to help reduce the drastic shortage suffered by clubs at a lower level.

Dobwalls had by now extended their lead and added a further goal towards the end.

The hosts will be delighted with this result as they were missing several regulars on the day.

 

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5 hours ago, Pedro said:

If more referees took this stance it would stamp out the abuse received by the officials which may encourage more to take up the job to help reduce the drastic shortage suffered by clubs at a lower level

 

5 hours ago, Pedro said:

Midway through the 2nd half the visitors striker was shown a yellow and sent to the sin bin for dissent, not long after it was their skipper who was shown a straight red for hurling foul language at the official.

You appear to have found a ref who is willing to invoke the rules regardless of whether he gets a poor mark from the teams involved.
Well done ref, a few more like you and we may see a few more people through the gate who don't wat to listen to a constant barrage of foul language.

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No In depth report today, but Lanson vs Blazey was good value for money Friday night. Particular mention to Todd who came on as a late second half sub after a period of time on the side lines as per people in the stand mentioned how good he previously was at Ivybridge.

Saturday, I took in Dobwalls vs Newquay which wasn't as entertaining. Management at Dobwall and the committee should be disappointed with the language towards the official. However, it was well managed by the man in the middle.

Lastly! Fantastic to hear the Wendron backroom team swiftly helping the official who fell ill. Wish him a speedy recovery.

Liskeard Saturday anyone?😏    

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4 hours ago, Greygen said:

No In depth report today, but Lanson vs Blazey was good value for money Friday night. Particular mention to Todd who came on as a late second half sub after a period of time on the side lines as per people in the stand mentioned how good he previously was at Ivybridge.

Saturday, I took in Dobwalls vs Newquay which wasn't as entertaining. Management at Dobwall and the committee should be disappointed with the language towards the official. However, it was well managed by the man in the middle.

Lastly! Fantastic to hear the Wendron backroom team swiftly helping the official who fell ill. Wish him a speedy recovery.

Liskeard Saturday anyone?😏    

Yep seat booked on the coach for Saturday for what must be the game of the day in Devon and Cornwall .

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5 hours ago, We Two said:

 

You appear to have found a ref who is willing to invoke the rules regardless of whether he gets a poor mark from the teams involved.
Well done ref, a few more like you and we may see a few more people through the gate who don't wat to listen to a constant barrage of foul language.

From what I saw, Newquay played the better football but had no threat in front of goal whereas dobwalls looks better on the counter and took chances well.

in regards to the officials…I’m 100% in favour of the fact without them we would have a game etc and they don’t deserve to be spoken to the way they. However, in what I agree was a good lively game, I probably witnessed the worst piece of officiating I’ve seen in all my years watching , dobwalls striker and Newquay defender come together and the ref gives a pen, never a penalty( even the dobwalls players admitted it wasn’t) if anything it was a free kick the other way. The penalty taker slips and double hits the penalty resulting in a goal, there a retake should be taken in the rules of the game however the ref gives the goal against the protests of the Newquay players (dobwalls players seemed bemused it was allowed) the ref checks with the lineman’s who had no input as per usual( don’t know why they are there tbh) he was 10/15yrds out of position all game and then had a clear decision to overrule the refs mistake and Says nothing. I know this isn’t professional Level etc but I don’t understand how two officials who do get paid to officiate can’t see a blatant decision like that. Again I’ve heard some horrendous words said to refs from players which I’ll never agree with, however you can sometimes see why players etc get frustrated over awful decisions like that.

 

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1 hour ago, Cornish76 said:

From what I saw, Newquay played the better football but had no threat in front of goal whereas dobwalls looks better on the counter and took chances well.

in regards to the officials…I’m 100% in favour of the fact without them we would have a game etc and they don’t deserve to be spoken to the way they. However, in what I agree was a good lively game, I probably witnessed the worst piece of officiating I’ve seen in all my years watching , dobwalls striker and Newquay defender come together and the ref gives a pen, never a penalty( even the dobwalls players admitted it wasn’t) if anything it was a free kick the other way. The penalty taker slips and double hits the penalty resulting in a goal, there a retake should be taken in the rules of the game however the ref gives the goal against the protests of the Newquay players (dobwalls players seemed bemused it was allowed) the ref checks with the lineman’s who had no input as per usual( don’t know why they are there tbh) he was 10/15yrds out of position all game and then had a clear decision to overrule the refs mistake and Says nothing. I know this isn’t professional Level etc but I don’t understand how two officials who do get paid to officiate can’t see a blatant decision like that. Again I’ve heard some horrendous words said to refs from players which I’ll never agree with, however you can sometimes see why players etc get frustrated over awful decisions like that.

 

Your input means nothing when youre take on the rules is also wrong I had to look this up but I remember seeing this in a game before It should have been an indirect free kick for a double touch.

Im fed up of seeing refs get so much stick on here because they arent that bad Direct it at the players who misplace passes and shots miss tackles and mess up I can guarantee you they get paid more than the refs

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1 hour ago, FootballChat said:

Ref was only promoted to that level a few weeks ago, give him time to adjust to the pressures of peninsula football.

 

Not sure a ref who lives in Dobwalls should take charge of any of their games though 🧐

2 experienced assistants though.  

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And there I was watching a game last week in the duchy league that was being refd by a random person from the club. We ask ourselves why there isnt enough refs. This is part of the problem one saying refs were good others saying really bad. Suppose it depends on who you follow we should just appreciate the hard job they do. Feel free to have a go but put your money where your mouth is and have a go yourself. I couldnt do it personally id end up sending off all the clowns 

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1 hour ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

What!!! All the players and the spectators ...lol

Games would be played behind closed doors hahaha

I go and watch quite a few games and whilst crowds down here in Cornwall are rowdy at times altho not as bad as my neck of the woods  I dont think they often cross the line. It seems that managers and players get away with it because clubs will mark the refs down as I can see on twitter this mornin with Saltash marking the ref a 61 which according to someone on there is enough to ruin any chances they have of promotion all because ref played 5 minutes injury time 

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F.A. guidance for marking a referee states the following:- a mark of 61 was reasonably accurate in decision making, controlled the game quite well and communicated with players establishing a reasonable degree of fair play,
That is what the "F.A. Guidance for marking a referee" states and seems unlikely to undermine a refs progression up the standard of league he/she officiates at.
Clubs in general don't mark the referees too low so the standard isn't that bad, or is it as suggested by one official, because you will have to draft a legitimate reason that explains the referees shortcomings.
I spoke to a professional ref as we came off the pitch a lot of years ago, and will always remember his version of a football match where the referee will always make mistakes, it's only the players who don't.
Surprising how long the truth sticks in your mind.

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A club mark below 61 requires the club to submit a written explanation for the mark, hence why a lot of clubs will mark at 61 to avoid the need for the accompanying report.

 

I believe the average across the league is somewhere around the 73 mark roughly.

As promotion to the next level is decided on using merit tables (a combination of observer marks and club marks) a mark of 61 can sufficiently lower a referee average to rule them out of promotion.

 

Ludicrous system in my opinion. Unqualified, bias opinions affecting a referee’s chance of promotion.

 

All too often a club will mark a referee down based in some decision that are actually correct in law but largely unpopular.

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34 minutes ago, We Two said:

F.A. guidance for marking a referee states the following:- a mark of 61 was reasonably accurate in decision making, controlled the game quite well and communicated with players establishing a reasonable degree of fair play,
That is what the "F.A. Guidance for marking a referee" states and seems unlikely to undermine a refs progression up the standard of league he/she officiates at.
Clubs in general don't mark the referees too low so the standard isn't that bad, or is it as suggested by one official, because you will have to draft a legitimate reason that explains the referees shortcomings.
I spoke to a professional ref as we came off the pitch a lot of years ago, and will always remember his version of a football match where the referee will always make mistakes, it's only the players who don't.
Surprising how long the truth sticks in your mind.

For referee promotion, the referee needs to be in the higher band for BOTH club marks and observer marks.

The average mark is approximately 73.

A single mark of 61, will decimate any chance of being in an upper band, over a 25-30 game season, as you would need a mark of 85 to even it out

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15 minutes ago, Charlie R said:

For referee promotion, the referee needs to be in the higher band for BOTH club marks and observer marks.

The average mark is approximately 73.

A single mark of 61, will decimate any chance of being in an upper band, over a 25-30 game season, as you would need a mark of 85 to even it out

Er, not too sure about the maths there … I don’t know what the upper band threshold is but lets say it’s 80. Over a 25 game season with one score of 61 then the other 24 would need to average 80.8. Over a 30 game season with one score of 61 then the other 29 would need to average 80.7. 

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24 minutes ago, Lannowethian said:

Er, not too sure about the maths there … I don’t know what the upper band threshold is but lets say it’s 80. Over a 25 game season with one score of 61 then the other 24 would need to average 80.8. Over a 30 game season with one score of 61 then the other 29 would need to average 80.7. 

But you wont get that new average from both teams in every game!  I think every referee would love to get an average of 80, from both teams from every game.

 

Also, an average of 73 over your season is highly unlikely to see a referee promoted!

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1 hour ago, We Two said:

spoke to a professional ref as we came off the pitch a lot of years ago, and will always remember his version of a football match where the referee will always make mistakes, it's only the players who don't.
Surprising how long the truth sticks in your mind.

Love that...sums it up perfectly. 

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4 hours ago, BrummyBarry said:

Games would be played behind closed doors hahaha

I go and watch quite a few games and whilst crowds down here in Cornwall are rowdy at times altho not as bad as my neck of the woods  I dont think they often cross the line. It seems that managers and players get away with it because clubs will mark the refs down as I can see on twitter this mornin with Saltash marking the ref a 61 which according to someone on there is enough to ruin any chances they have of promotion all because ref played 5 minutes injury time 

Where was this on twitter? As you say wrong that managers and players get away with things. 

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21 hours ago, BrummyBarry said:

Your input means nothing when youre take on the rules is also wrong I had to look this up but I remember seeing this in a game before It should have been an indirect free kick for a double touch.

Im fed up of seeing refs get so much stick on here because they arent that bad Direct it at the players who misplace passes and shots miss tackles and mess up I can guarantee you they get paid more than the refs

You’ve clearly took my opinion the wrong way… I’ve clearly stated I’m totally against any abuse directed towards officials, they have a very hard job and don’t get paid enough for it (you’ll find most players don’t get paid at all, some pay to play). 

i said it shouldn’t have been a penalty and the original goal should’ve have stood so how have I got that wrong 😂

Apart from that one mistake the ref himself had a very good game, linesman’s didn’t do anything to help him at all which is poor, however it still is a decision at any level should’ve have been dealt with full stop. 
 

again just so you don’t take what I’ve said incorrectly, I fully understand how difficult it is for refs etc (like I said in my original post) however,that doesn’t mean that we can’t mention when they’ve had a bad game/made a poor decision etc 

cheers enjoy the weekends football 

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