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Well after seeing pictures of Tyler Harvey celebrating yesterday to a quite honestly “pathetic” crowd I do wonder wether there’s actually a positive future for TCFC? 
With crowds of 250+ at Helston and Tavi yesterday and other local teams pulling in decent attendances from the Peninsula leagues is it really a good move for a Club to push for constant promotions to reach the National Leagues? Falmouth Town are inevitably the next Club everyone’s looking at to push on and join Helston, Mousehole etc in the Western League and no doubt have an enviable following locally, not so sure they would have the numbers away when the trips become harder and further afield? 
I just feel the whole TCFC setup aren’t really sure of their own future themselves.

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Is there actually an expectation of an away following in anything other than double figures? I doubt if many League clubs get more than about 10% of their home following follow them away, so if our clubs get 200-300 at home the expectation probably isn’t much more than 20 or so. And then with every Truro “home” game already being a 3hr round trip … 

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18 hours ago, THEMAGPIE said:

Well after seeing pictures of Tyler Harvey celebrating yesterday to a quite honestly “pathetic” crowd I do wonder wether there’s actually a positive future for TCFC? 
With crowds of 250+ at Helston and Tavi yesterday and other local teams pulling in decent attendances from the Peninsula leagues is it really a good move for a Club to push for constant promotions to reach the National Leagues? Falmouth Town are inevitably the next Club everyone’s looking at to push on and join Helston, Mousehole etc in the Western League and no doubt have an enviable following locally, not so sure they would have the numbers away when the trips become harder and further afield? 
I just feel the whole TCFC setup aren’t really sure of their own future themselves.

In this current era, can a strong Falmouth Town and Truro City both attract decent crowds? Suspect that outside of the hardcore F-Troop, a lot float between the clubs, especially those that used to go to Treyew but now don't fancy the trip up to Bolitho. In the words of a former lecturer of mine, please discuss.

Will get accused of rabbiting on, but it is clear that the hoped for Plymouth neutrals and non travelling Parkway fans aren't turning up (the gate charges aren't helping). Of course, if Truro results pick up and they can get up towards the top of the table, then things could change

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23 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said:

I’m not so sure they will! I think at the end of the day, a Truro City supporter has lost his identity with all that’s happened recently!

Agree Dave, I honestly think the Club as a whole has lost any sense of belonging, really bad move going to Bolitho park taking the football miles away from your fan base, so many other Clubs in the County have now made up so much ground on TCFC ie Falmouth, Helston and Mousehole to name a few.

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Looking at the attendances in the division below ( i.e. Div One South), these are on aveage pretty much on a par with what Truro City are attracting now. As an aside, I watched some of the City Reserves match away at Homans (Camborne) on Saturday and there were practically no spectators at all. However, there was a decent crowd on the adjacent pitch watching a rugby match!

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Remember when TCFC played at Treyew they did attract healthy crowds of 300 / 500 plus per game, better than Falmouth are getting now, so if ever they come back to Truro maybe they can do it again.

It would have to be their own ground though as if it was into a 6,000 seater stadium the atmosphere would kill them...there would be none.

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54 minutes ago, THEMAGPIE said:

What was the thinking in playing at Parkway though?? These attendance figures surely prove a point!, I can’t help thinking that the poor support is also having an inevitable affect on the performances 

Covered elsewhere in the forum. Main points though are that the scale of work required wouldn't have made it achievable within the 6 month timeline that existed. Parkway had the designs, plans  and necessary planning permissions in place to satisfy their own ambitions, they were just brought forward a few years to cater for Truro ground sharing. Even then, it was a tremendous effort to get all this completed in time for pre season.

It's not just the stands and seating areas that would have needed work, but the pitch, ground perimeter fencing, changing facilities, spectator entrances, public address systems, floodlights and officials/directors hospitality facilities would have needed serious money spending at the Cornish grounds. Would recommend people reading the FA ground grading requirements document to fully understand the scale of what is required, then imagine how much money and time would have been needed to bring Priory Park or Bickland Park up to standard. My view is that is was poor planning to not see this issue coming down the track a few years ago, and a bit of planning and forward thinking would have kept City in Cornwall where they belong, and where their future (hopefully) remains.

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Whilst forward planning could have helped its important its remembered that Truro City changed hands before the development option was instigated, so the new owners (Cornish Pirates) had no time to consider this. What has resulted is that the only solution is what actually has happened. Many teams have been in the same predicament and have come back home. Meanwhile the reserves and U18 are carrying the flag locally.

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As has been mentioned before - nobody outside of Truro gives 2 hoots about Truro - everyone has their local club, especially in Cornwall and possibly Devon. If people are going to travel any great distance then it would be to see an EFL game. That will never change even with a fancy stadium with little or no atmosphere. 

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18 hours ago, le boss said:

As has been mentioned before - nobody outside of Truro gives 2 hoots about Truro - everyone has their local club, especially in Cornwall and possibly Devon. If people are going to travel any great distance then it would be to see an EFL game. That will never change even with a fancy stadium with little or no atmosphere. 

Bit before my time, but what was the general feeling within the county about Falmouth Town when they blazed a trail within South Western and Western League football in the late sixties and seventies? Were they seen as putting Cornish football on the map by bringing professionalism into the county scene, or overpaid big time charlies that were there to be put in their place, and, was there a feeling of schadenfreude and "I told you so" when it all eventually imploded?

When the Heaney revolution was starting to gather pace at Truro City in 2005/6 .remember there was very little love for them within the other South Western League clubs. The feeling was (especially with someone I knew at the time who was a member of a SW league club's committee) that they were glad to see the back of them. 

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4 hours ago, Way Of The Park said:

Bit before my time, but what was the general feeling within the county about Falmouth Town when they blazed a trail within South Western and Western League football in the late sixties and seventies? Were they seen as putting Cornish football on the map by bringing professionalism into the county scene, or overpaid big time charlies that were there to be put in their place, and, was there a feeling of schadenfreude and "I told you so" when it all eventually imploded?

When the Heaney revolution was starting to gather pace at Truro City in 2005/6 .remember there was very little love for them within the other South Western League clubs. The feeling was (especially with someone I knew at the time who was a member of a SW league club's committee) that they were glad to see the back of them. 

The question you ask about Falmouth Town is perhaps best answered by their adoring fans who will give a balanced and well-evidenced answer - what you have described is a similar scenario that other teams are now being heavily criticised for - oh the irony eh? I guess the over-riding feeling is tht there is nothing more holier-than-thou than a passionate football fan. Got no problem with how Falmouth blazed the trail long ago - and lessons will have been learnt by them and hopefully other clubs. 

With regards to Truro - don't think Heaney really endeared himself to the fans of Truro and if the rumours are true about his external dodgy dealings, then he had no one to blame but himself. League committees are always seen as filled with a few dinosaurs who hate to have their feathers ruffled but not everyone is going to be happy all of the time. 

Still - Truro is Truro, Falmouth is Falmouth and every other club has their own supporters, few of whom could be classsed as outsiders. Always has been, always will.

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Reading all the above and not withstanding, it seems to me to be a great shame that the County Town of Cornwall hasn't got a healthy and successful football club. At the end of the day, perhaps there are not enough people in Truro in positions of influence or power, that are interested enough in football. I wish it were otherwise.

 

 

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On 11/10/2021 at 17:26, le boss said:

As has been mentioned before - nobody outside of Truro gives 2 hoots about Truro - everyone has their local club, especially in Cornwall and possibly Devon. If people are going to travel any great distance then it would be to see an EFL game. That will never change even with a fancy stadium with little or no atmosphere. 

What a load of dribble.

The title of this thread got me. Is it supposed to be a discussion, or a way of stirring sh*t? I don't see why the o.p. couldn't have put "Truro City crowd numbers". 

Had Heaney never taken over TCFC, we'd never have got to Wembley. Okay, so he fudged it all up, but my father and I will always be grateful for those memories. 

Personally, TCFC has ended up being screwed over buy the last two owners of the club, and now the Pirates. The Stadium is "pie in the sky" (as my father says), and I can't see the Pirates delivering on the promise of a new ground at any point in the near future. Plus, the Pirates have said from the beginning that the rugby team will always be a priority over the football club.

 I'd LOVE to go and see City play at Blitho. But for personal reasons, it's just not possible. 

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1 hour ago, Devils@Dusk said:

What a load of dribble.

The title of this thread got me. Is it supposed to be a discussion, or a way of stirring sh*t? I don't see why the o.p. couldn't have put "Truro City crowd numbers". 

Had Heaney never taken over TCFC, we'd never have got to Wembley. Okay, so he fudged it all up, but my father and I will always be grateful for those memories. 

Personally, TCFC has ended up being screwed over buy the last two owners of the club, and now the Pirates. The Stadium is "pie in the sky" (as my father says), and I can't see the Pirates delivering on the promise of a new ground at any point in the near future. Plus, the Pirates have said from the beginning that the rugby team will always be a priority over the football club.

 I'd LOVE to go and see City play at Blitho. But for personal reasons, it's just not possible. 

Don't think many will dispute what you are saying but I still stand by what i have written. No s**t stirring just how it is for football people of Cornwall. 

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