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heard on the revista la liga last night that if riijkard stays in charge he wants rid of both players as he feels they disrupt the team IF this does happen does anyone think we will see them play in england next season and if they do where do you think they would go????????????

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Don't think that Barca will accept two pints of lager and a packet of crisps for him, typical YID win a trophy and think they can buy the world. Then again if Barca pawn ETO and Ron maybe you could stand a chance.

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united wanted ronaldinho before he went to barca so they might go for him I reckon chelsea will as will liverpool arsenal wont and you never know he might fancy spurs only time will tell if they leave or not but if they do I for one hope they decide to ply their trade in the premiership :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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If Barca sell how much do you think they will go for? and will Barca take a cut price if a club comes in for the both. I can see maybe arsenal or Utd go for Eto. Not sure about Ronnie.

Chelsea may look at Ronnie but I am a little unsure where we are going to put him?

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Would not surprise me if they put in a bid?

Tipping the hoops to go up to the prem next season. Although they will need to spend on the right type of players to get them out of the championship. They certainly have the clout once they get to the prem to shake the whole division up.

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I could see Ronaldinho going to Spurs or Newcastle. I dont think Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea would want him in fear of upsetting the apple cart? Besides we dont know a player of Ronaldinho's style would fit in, in the Premiership. They stand off you a lot more in la liga, id like to see him try jinking his way through the likes of Bolton, Blackburn or other physcally stronger teams!!! Class act but no Ronaldo!!!

I could see E'too at Arsenal or Chelsea, he'd score goals wherever he went! :c:

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I could see Ronaldinho going to Spurs or Newcastle. I dont think Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea would want him in fear of upsetting the apple cart? Besides we dont know a player of Ronaldinho's style would fit in, in the Premiership. They stand off you a lot more in la liga, id like to see him try jinking his way through the likes of Bolton, Blackburn or other physcally stronger teams!!! Class act but no Ronaldo!!!

I could see E'too at Arsenal or Chelsea, he'd score goals wherever he went! :c:

You are probably right in regards to Newcastle going in for Ronaldinho, sort of signing which would ge the geordies going. Also agree that the hustle and bustle of the prem may not suit his style.

Eto to either Arsenal or Chelsea fair call, depends what Drogba does at the end of the season.

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You are probably right in regards to Newcastle going in for Ronaldinho,

He wouldn't be able to understand a word the Geordies were saying! He'd be much better off at United although it may be one primadonna too many.

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Like to see ronaldihno dribble his way passed martin taylor?

Not sure either would fancy it in the championship with the superhoops,maybe the year after in the prem?

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Like to see ronaldihno dribble his way passed martin taylor?

Not sure either would fancy it in the championship with the superhoops,maybe the year after in the prem?

by the time the 'superhoops' are in the prem he will be about 40 so you can have him he would probs be a waste of space then :clapper:

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Don't think that Barca will accept two pints of lager and a packet of crisps for him, typical YID win a trophy and think they can buy the world.

We can't afford the world, that would cost trillions! Plus football would be really boring if we owned it all, D'uh!

Honestly, and you all think us Spurs fans are delusional, next you'll be telling us Elvis ain't dead! :wacko:

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Ar5enal had to borrow 500 millon pounds to complete The Emirates,on the understanding they would

pay back 100 millon plus interest a year,that is why they must continue with the young hopefuls and

cannot compete with the big boys in the transfer market.Mr Wenger wanted to sign Woodgate because

of the injury to Kolo Toure,but the club would not release the funds,because of the crippling debt.So yes

Ar5ena1 are in debt at least for the next 3 years.Watch another big money departure from the club

again when the season finish,to help finance the situation.

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Like to see ronaldihno dribble his way passed martin taylor?

Not sure either would fancy it in the championship with the superhoops,maybe the year after in the prem?

by the time the 'superhoops' are in the prem he will be about 40 so you can have him he would probs be a waste of space then :clapper:

Well QPR have people running them now that have a 4 year plan to get us back in the prem,time will tell if they are right ,obviously i hope they are right!!we will see!!

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Arsenal's debt was £262.1m after moving to Emirates not £500m

Yes but they then refinanced the debts they already had so as they could pay them off over a longer period of time. The overall debt is around the £500million mark BUT with record figures every month since moving into the immigrants stadium, I'm sure that they are not too concerned about the clubs future at the moment.

However, if they continue to not win silverware, titles etc, will the club, supporters and most importantly the players, continue to pledge loyalties to Arsenal?. We all know that MOST players ultimately want to win things. I know that there's the lure of Champions League football but if the club continues to be unsuccessful in each competition they enter, will they be able to attract players before the likes of Man Utd?. As good as the football is that Arsenal play, if I was a professional player I would certainly choose Man Utd over Arsenal, purely because I would feel more likely to achieve success and trophies etc an Utd.

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I know the fans wouldnt leave Arsenal should the going get tough. You must remember Arsenal have had long spells of time without major honours before. Im sure Arsenals young team will soon start picking up trophys and with the new increased capacity stadium and Emirates sponsorship deal, it wont be long before Wenger has plenty of money to spend. Not that he really needs it, he always seems to pick out these youngsters from nowhere! :c:

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iI admire your loyalty to the Gooner cause.Wenger has been promising you that this new generation will

deliver trophies.3 years have gone nearly,and nothing,just pretty football.When you win nothing this

season and Wenger want to invest heavily to keep up with the big boys,but the board ties his hands,dont

be surprised to see Wenger jump ship to a big Spanish club,just like Henry.

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iI admire your loyalty to the Gooner cause.Wenger has been promising you that this new generation will

deliver trophies.3 years have gone nearly,and nothing,just pretty football.When you win nothing this

season and Wenger want to invest heavily to keep up with the big boys,but the board ties his hands,dont

be surprised to see Wenger jump ship to a big Spanish club,just like Henry.

I must admit when arsene let henry go to barca I did think he had an ulterior motive (that being he intended to join him) but only time will tell I dont think arsenal will win anything this season nothing against arsenal just my opinion

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somersetspur and other clever Yid supporters. What is your personal opinion on this??.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtm...8/sfntot128.xml

Its a shame that clubs are having to break with tradition and leave their grounds but money dictates football in this day and age and unfortunatly moving to bigger grounds seems to be an integral part of any clubs plans to break into the top four because without extra money bigger grounds bring the top players required to break into the top four cant be easily funded having said that moving to increase revenue can only be a good thing because more money would secure a clubs future.

hope you dont mind me commenting coopsie even though im NOT a yid :P

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Ar5enal had to borrow 500 millon pounds to complete The Emirates,on the understanding they would

pay back 100 millon plus interest a year,that is why they must continue with the young hopefuls and

cannot compete with the big boys in the transfer market.Mr Wenger wanted to sign Woodgate because

of the injury to Kolo Toure,but the club would not release the funds,because of the crippling debt.So yes

Ar5ena1 are in debt at least for the next 3 years.Watch another big money departure from the club

again when the season finish,to help finance the situation.

sorry mate but you read way to much "NEWS OF THE WORLD", there is never in a million years that Sir Wenger would have let any of his £25+mil kitty go to waste on Woodgate-your talkin out ya arse on that m8e!!!

Debt??--we had one of the biggest profit turnovers!! and i think it was released in November they were the richest club in the country(@ the time)

£500mil debt for stadium??--just over £300mil of that was paid by Fly Emirates-hence the name Emirates Stadium!!-u monkey!!!

Stick to ur carling mug my friend-we have bigger fish to fry!!!!

anyway back to the topic

i think, that if this rumour is true, you will see Ronaldinho (Legend) move to Chelski (although having said that,there have been rumours of a switch to Ac Milan) for Lampard

and with Eto'o i'd probably say due to his close relationship with Sir Wenger-Arsenal but we would probably not want to pay the £25+mil pricetag on his head!! so he might end up at Man Utd or maybe evn an Italien club like Ac Milan who are desperately in need of a dangerman

somersetspur and other clever Yid supporters. What is your personal opinion on this??.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtm...8/sfntot128.xml

bout time they moved out of that s** hole called w**** hart lane

Maybe then they wont take so long to beat our reserve team in the carling mug!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol: :lol:

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Ar5enal had to borrow 500 millon pounds to complete The Emirates,on the understanding they would

pay back 100 millon plus interest a year,that is why they must continue with the young hopefuls and

cannot compete with the big boys in the transfer market.Mr Wenger wanted to sign Woodgate because

of the injury to Kolo Toure,but the club would not release the funds,because of the crippling debt.So yes

Ar5ena1 are in debt at least for the next 3 years.Watch another big money departure from the club

again when the season finish,to help finance the situation.

sorry mate but you read way to much "NEWS OF THE WORLD", there is never in a million years that Sir Wenger would have let any of his £25+mil kitty go to waste on Woodgate-your talkin out ya arse on that m8e!!!

Debt??--we had one of the biggest profit turnovers!! and i think it was released in November they were the richest club in the country(@ the time)

£500mil debt for stadium??--just over £300mil of that was paid by Fly Emirates-hence the name Emirates Stadium!!-u monkey!!!

Stick to ur carling mug my friend-we have bigger fish to fry!!!!

anyway back to the topic

i think, that if this rumour is true, you will see Ronaldinho (Legend) move to Chelski (although having said that,there have been rumours of a switch to Ac Milan) for Lampard

and with Eto'o i'd probably say due to his close relationship with Sir Wenger-Arsenal but we would probably not want to pay the £25+mil pricetag on his head!! so he might end up at Man Utd or maybe evn an Italien club like Ac Milan who are desperately in need of a dangerman

somersetspur and other clever Yid supporters. What is your personal opinion on this??.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtm...8/sfntot128.xml

bout time they moved out of that s** hole called w**** hart lane

Maybe then they wont take so long to beat our reserve team in the carling mug!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

bigger fish to fry?? what are you talking about?

explain what bigger fish arsenal have fried in the last 3 years??

nothing and like the last 3 seasons you will not win anything again.

reserve team??gallas fabregas 3 or 4 more 1s teamers played aswell so get your facts right

sir arsene wenger?hes doing nothing but turning arsenal into a very average side with potential!!!!!

what you gooners have to realise is your time is up you will always be the team that could have been more and nothing more!!!!come back when you start winning cups again!!!

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Hate to piss on you Spurs fans fireworks but Arsenals days are hardly numbered especially with the young side they've got now. Ha ha, Wenger jumping ship, what crap!!!

As much as i dont want to reveal this secret to you, winning the Mickey Mouse (so, sorry, Carling) Cup doesn't make you the top side in North London. Being top of the best league in the world, finishing in the top 4 and playing Champions League every season for the last decade and having a brand new 60,000 seater stadium, kind of does! :drink:

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Typical Gooners shouting the odds when you won nothing for 3 years.Beleive what you like about being

the richest club in the country?Monkeys are intelligent,so thanks for that.Facts are,Carling cup,2nd leg

7 of the Ar5ena1 team that finished that game started the Saturday in the Premiership.Another fact which

you state Wenger would not be allowed to spend 25million+ on Eto,my point entirely.Yes and another fact

is Spurs beat Chelsea to win a trophy,in only a short time under Ramos.So what big fish are you frying?

As for moving Stadiums,whats wrong with that?You left the Libarary.Well keep shouting from the rooftop

even though your trophyless. Maybe you should come back to this thread when you win something.

Should be quiet for a while.

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As opposed to resorting to blatant abuse, I will attempt to deal with the points you so eloquently raised!!

sorry mate but you read way to much "NEWS OF THE WORLD", there is never in a million years that Sir Wenger would have let any of his £25+mil kitty go to waste on Woodgate-your talkin out ya arse on that m8e!!!

To say that Wenger would not want to waste cash on Woodgate is a little bit of false bravado, surely?! When fit, Woodgate would grace any club in this country and is one of the best 4 centre halves that England have. It is only his poor injury record which deterred any of the top 4 making a bid for him, however since he joined Middlesboro' from Real Madrid his 46 games in a season and half is not too shabby.

Also your '£25m+ kitty' line is very British tabloid, so maybe the News of the World has two readers!

Debt??--we had one of the biggest profit turnovers!! and i think it was released in November they were the richest club in the country(@ the time)

As someone who works in accounts, they're are many ways to present figures in accounts to suit a situation. Depending on whether media outlets want to portray a negative or positive slant on something then certain figures will be rolled out.

How you define rich is open to debate, but when released in November Arsenal FC showed the largest annual turnover figures seen by a Football club in this country (this has been since surpassed by Man Utd & Chelsea), but while you correctly pointed out how the year had seen a large increase in operating profit, this figure was in fact before interest charges, and in fact the actual profit figure before taxation had decreased from £15.8m in 2006 to £5.6m in 2007.

All this while the Bank loans outstanding on the balance sheet have increased from £272.6m in 2006 to £314.6m in 2007.

Not quite the rosy little picture that the media paint!

While Arsenal continue to be 'successful' and qualify for the significant financial rewards of the Champions League they are able to show the bank that they can sufficiently finance their debts, however it will only take one season of the UEFA cup, or worse, and finances will become very tight at the Emirates.

£500mil debt for stadium??--just over £300mil of that was paid by Fly Emirates-hence the name Emirates Stadium!!-u monkey!!!

The stadium total cost was £430m, which was financed by a £260m loan from Royal Bank of Scotland (later restructured with the issue of two separate bonds (£210.5 over 13.5 years & £50m over 7.1 years), a £100m sponsorship deal with Fly Emirates (which includes rights to the stadium name for the first 15 years of it's use), the remaining £70m would come from the sale of the Library and future sales of the apartments and housing being put on the Library site.

It appears that there are monkey's a plenty on this site, as I see no mention of a £300m cash injection from Fly Emirates!

Stick to ur carling mug my friend-we have bigger fish to fry!!!!

Whilst there has been much derision of the Carling/League Cup, the cause for optimism from us Spurs fans is that not only did the team beat, come from a 1-0 deficit and outplay a full strength Chelsea side that clearly wanted to win the trophy, but it is also that since Juande Ramos took over, the fans have seen the teams push an Arsenal '1st team' on their own ground to the point where, if Keano had slotted home a penalty we would've have probably come away with a win. We also completely outplayed the Arsenal '2nd team' in a semi, where the year before we had bottled it. Then we outplay Man Utd and was denied a win by a goal in the 4th min of 3 mins added time!

So the big thing that has been levelled at the club for the last 10 years of the premier league is that we can't compete with the 'Big 4', but it appears that under Juande this maybe changing and we hope that next year we can challenge for a top 4 place and end the little cartel of the past few seasons, which can only be a good thing for English football (which is why I hope Everton or Villa get 4th spot this season, and I have no issues with Liverpool), as the more stronger clubs you have, the more competitive it becomes and would surely produce better players for our waning national team.

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Typical Gooners shouting the odds when you won nothing for 3 years.Beleive what you like about being

the richest club in the country?Monkeys are intelligent,so thanks for that.Facts are,Carling cup,2nd leg

7 of the Ar5ena1 team that finished that game started the Saturday in the Premiership.Another fact which

you state Wenger would not be allowed to spend 25million+ on Eto,my point entirely.Yes and another fact

is Spurs beat Chelsea to win a trophy,in only a short time under Ramos.So what big fish are you frying?

As for moving Stadiums,whats wrong with that?You left the Libarary.Well keep shouting from the rooftop

even though your trophyless. Maybe you should come back to this thread when you win something.

Should be quiet for a while.

Typical Spurs fan, start shouting the odds when you win a meaningless competition. Good effort from Ramos in his first season, not quite in Wengers class though is he? Double in his first full season anyone? You did well to beat Arsenal 5-1 and Chelsea in the final but how many more seasons are we gonna have to hear about that for before you win a real trophy?

Maybe you should come back to this tread when you qualify for the Champions League? Should be quiet for a long long long while!!!

Nothing like ganging up on us Gooners on this forum when the going gets tough for us, is there? No fear, il always be here to fight the cause, without resorting to personal insults*!

* WHENEVER POSSIBLE :c:

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remembering back to when Ronaldinho signed for Barca he said he signed for them instead of Man Utd because of the unproffesional approach Man Utd made for him. I remember him saying that they are totally unproffesional and will never sign for them.

Although that may be true things change quickly in football if the wages are right then I would have thought he would fancy playing for them now imagine the devastation united would cause with the two rons on either wing frightening.

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United have got a well established side already though, putting Ronaldinho into the mix might spoil things abit? Remember when they signed Veron, one of the worlds top players at the time but it didnt work out. Ronaldo is the top dog in world football anyway, so they dont even need him!!! I got a funny feeling he's goning to go to Newcastle, dont know why though? :c:

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Typical Gooners shouting the odds when you won nothing for 3 years.Beleive what you like about being

the richest club in the country?Monkeys are intelligent,so thanks for that.Facts are,Carling cup,2nd leg

7 of the Ar5ena1 team that finished that game started the Saturday in the Premiership.Another fact which

you state Wenger would not be allowed to spend 25million+ on Eto,my point entirely.Yes and another fact

is Spurs beat Chelsea to win a trophy,in only a short time under Ramos.So what big fish are you frying?

As for moving Stadiums,whats wrong with that?You left the Libarary.Well keep shouting from the rooftop

even though your trophyless. Maybe you should come back to this thread when you win something.

Should be quiet for a while.

team that started against S*** in the carling mug defeat:

Fabianski, sagna, hoyte, traore, gallas, denilson, diaby, gilberto, hleb, walcott, bendtner.

Team that would normally start a prem game if all were fit as follows:

Almunia, clichy,toure, gallas, sagna, hleb, fabregas, flamini, rosicky, robin van persie, adebayor

so as you can see, that does not make 7 first teamers as you claim.(cesc,eduardo and adebayor came on as subs,the latter two had only 15 minutes)

the reason why the likes of diaby, walcott, bendtner are starting recently is simply due to having a big amount of players on the ever growing injury list

as for frying bigger fish are you being plain stupid?? (sitting top of the prem table with a good chance of winning it-or be sitting emabrasingly in 11th place???) ever heard of the champions league?? didnt think so, ever got to the final?? didnt think so--and before man utd and the liverpool boys add "ever won it?" i know but you can only try by resting key players in the likes of the carling mug which tottenham are extremely lucky they won because if they didnt-they wouldnt be in any european competitions next season!!!!

you havnt come anywhere near winning the premiership since it started and you havnt won the league since the 1960-61 and that is only the second time you have tasted winning the league with your first coming 10 years earlier!!!! what a laughable honours list i must say!!!!

you havnt won a major trophy (league,fa,european) since 1991!!!!! shocking!!!! (having only won the fa cup 8 times!!)

arsenal on the other hand last major trophy--F.A cup 2005 beat Utd (who outplayed us the whole match 5-4 pens)

last won the league 2004

have won the league 13 times compared to measly two!!!!!!

have won the fa cup 10 times

done the double (league and fa cup) 3 times (most recent being 2002) compared to your once!!

so not really a contest im afraid!!--we are kings of North London/London altogether!!!

as for the stadium figures that accountant gave--im afraid i'l hold my hands--u got me on that one,thnx for lettin me know tho!!!!!

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United have got a well established side already though, putting Ronaldinho into the mix might spoil things abit? Remember when they signed Veron, one of the worlds top players at the time but it didnt work out. Ronaldo is the top dog in world football anyway, so they dont even need him!!! I got a funny feeling he's goning to go to Newcastle, dont know why though? :c:

the toon romantics will be hoping your right but chelsea have always been keen on ron as would most italian clubs you never know he might follow carlos to fenerbache :P

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I wouldnt go so far as saying Spurs honours list is 'laughable' (their FA, UEFA and Cup Winners Cup record is pretty impressive for example) but i agree, its not up there with Arsenals.

I just think the Spuds fans are getting a little bit too excited following their Carling Cup victory!!! :P:c:

Ay??? are you sure?? i dont think so

ok maybe their F.A cup honours are ok, but they havnt won it since 1991!!! 17 years!!!! in fact 17 years and counting since a major trophy is shocking, especially as they were supposed to be taking the prem by storm this season!! (more like looking like a storm-unpredictable and horrid to look at!! :D ) :lol::lol:

they have won the UEFA cup twice in 1971-72 season and again in 1983-84 season

European cup winners cup once in 1962-63 season

impressive?? i dont think so some how

their honours list is so laughable that they have to make it look good by adding honours like friendly tournament trophies, and southern district champions!!

Arsenal Major honours count-25

S**** major honours count-13

(carling mug has not been counted as not classed as major trophy)

as you can see S**** fans you are some way off the pace my friends!!!

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My point was that although they've not achieved anywhere near as much as Arsenal, they have won major honours (theres a lot of teams in this country that haven't) ! Their two league championships may not look much compared to Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal but winning the League is no mean feat and to win it twice is an impressive achievement. Spurs have got a decent (certainly not laughable) history, probably the best of the non-top 4 English clubs (and argueably better then Chelseas) but at the moment they haven't got a hope of breaking into the Champions League spots ahead of Arsenal, despite what some fans seem to believe!!! :P

Oh my god, just realised ive been defending the Spuds! Im off before i say something really stupid that i know il regret.....like Darren Bent, £18 Million well spent!!! :thumbsup: :c:

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How blind are those Gooner supporters who are slating Spurs for winning the Carling Cup?. You're all right in the sense that it is probably the least important of the domestic competitions, but it is still a competition that your club and more importantly the players that represent your club wanted to win. That's why they were all falling out and resorting to the girly handbag fighting during the hammering that they were taking.

Like it or not, Wenger and Arsenal wanted to win that trophy, as did Grant and Chelsea. Unfortunately neither of them got to win it and Spurs did and ultimately qualified for the UEFA Cup again next season. That is a competition that 16 of the 20 Premiership clubs would gladly aim to qualify for at the beginning of any season. It is a cup that any Liverpool supporter will vouch for in respects of importance because it was part of a treble winning season for them not so long ago.

Smithy, well done on making a Champions League final, you must be very proud. That made you the first placed loser out of every team that entered and guess what??. You've still only won it as many times as poor old pathetic Spurs have. NONE.

You're right, 17 years since winning the FA Cup in 1991 is a long time. Please remind me, Who did we beat in the Semi final before going on to win the trophy?.

Now you've pointed out how long it's been since Spurs won anything "major", why don't you enlighten us about Arsenals consistency at "major" trophy winning before Wenger actually brought in consistency?.

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Lets end this Spurs-Arsenal debate now shall we. As a Gooner id like to (reluctantly-lol) congratulate Spurs on their Carling Cup victory. Of course we wanted to win it and we were gutted after the 5-1, thats obvious. But, in reply to some Spurs fans comments, Arsenal are far from finished, a recent blip and a few bad results doesent change the fact we're having a very very good season, were currently in the quarter finals of the Champions League and joint top of the best League in the world and playing at times breath-taking football. Theres nothing wrong with Spurs-Arsenal banter but this is getting boring and its got nothing to do with the original topic.

RONALDINHO AND ETO'O ON WAY OUT OF BARCELONA

My personal opinion -

Ronaldinho - Newcastle or AC Milan

Eto'o - Chelsea or will stay at Barca :c:

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A One And A Six, we're not joint top we are top :D:drink: and i was one of the first to say well done to Spurs for beating Chelsea, and i watched the game and enjoyed it too. It is getting boring having everyone saying that Arsenal are finished, we've lost one league game all season, how's that 'finished'? We've had a few players injured this season, but still we're fighting on, ok so we may only be 1 point clear at the top but still we are top. Even if we come 2nd or 3rd we've done alot better then anyone gave us credit for at the begining of the season after Henry left.

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A One And A Six, Anita. Atleast I can HONESTLY say that I have not been one of those Spurs supporters that have described Arsenal as "finished"etc. Even last season when those Spurs supporters who were how shall I put it "Slightly dilusional", saying that we will beat Arsenal to the 4th place finish this season, I was openly admitting that we would not be finishing above Arsenal, they would not drop out of the top 4 and if anybody was going to finish outside the top 4, it would be Liverpool.

I wasn't far wrong was I?. I agree, all the Spurs V Arsenal stuff is bloody boring now.

WHY would Ronaldinho want to play in the championship?. That's where "King Kev's Revolution" is taking Newcastle.

Can't see Eto'o going anywhere BUT if Drogba is as unhappy as we are being led to believe, perhaps a swap deal between him and Eto'o could be on the cards?.

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There's talk on the news today of a Ronaldo move to Barca - Ron out/Ron in???

Personally Ronin, I think that would be the shock of the century and there's NO WAY that it is going to happen. Ronaldo already performs at a better and more consitstent level than Ronaldinho, he is several years younger and will only get better as time goes by. Ronaldinho is probably already at his peak(if not past it if we are to believe reports) and I even doubt whether he'd be able to perform in the Premiership anyway?.

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