Gilby on various subjects including the Kernow first away trip!

[Dave Deacon]

Darren Gilbert talking all things Kernow, “upwardly moving”, Bodmin Town and adding to his list of trophies won👍

[100%cornish]

I been sitting listening to the Kernow match in London vs Cascadia with Kernow winning 8-1  well done but what is the point of these games  they go all that way play poor opposition and come back it seems a waste of time really more unessary games maybe in there next games they could have better opposition and all afternoon the Commentator has said Hayden Turner was Cam Turners brother i didnt think they where related . 1 last thing seems like a lot of biased with the pick of the team with so many Bodmin players in the team i dont see why Newquays Jack Bray Evans is not in the team he is head and shoulders better than some of the players that are picked .This is my opinion only i think this is a pointless tournament .

[Bobjfh]

2 hours ago, 100%cornish said:

I been sitting listening to the Kernow match in London vs Cascadia with Kernow winning 8-1  well done but what is the point of these games  they go all that way play poor opposition and come back it seems a waste of time really more unessary games maybe in there next games they could have better opposition and all afternoon the Commentator has said Hayden Turner was Cam Turners brother i didnt think they where related . 1 last thing seems like a lot of biased with the pick of the team with so many Bodmin players in the team i dont see why Newquays Jack Bray Evans is not in the team he is head and shoulders better than some of the players that are picked .This is my opinion only i think this is a pointless tournament .

100% - it’s no more than an ‘old boys jolly’. The squad IMO does nothing to represent the best players in Cornwall, rather those that Darren can get to travel. All of us would pick different squads and it’s down to opinions but several in that squad would not be in the majority of our picks. 
Hope all involved enjoyed themselves and well done, but they don’t represent my views of Cornish football. 

[Footballlover442]

Some of the squad Arnt even born in Cornwall! Hardly a kernow team. It's all the same players getting picked you won't see lads from smaller clubs getting called up unfortunately unless they happen to be mates with the people who run kernow fa or mates of Darren Gilbert 

[Emily91]

7 hours ago, 100%cornish said:

I been sitting listening to the Kernow match in London vs Cascadia with Kernow winning 8-1  well done but what is the point of these games  they go all that way play poor opposition and come back it seems a waste of time really more unessary games maybe in there next games they could have better opposition and all afternoon the Commentator has said Hayden Turner was Cam Turners brother i didnt think they where related . 1 last thing seems like a lot of biased with the pick of the team with so many Bodmin players in the team i dont see why Newquays Jack Bray Evans is not in the team he is head and shoulders better than some of the players that are picked .This is my opinion only i think this is a pointless tournament .

Of those players today, I see 3 Bodmin players.. hardly the majority? 🤔 

[100%cornish]

More than 3 Emily heres 4 for a start Tom Whipp,Dan Jennings , Tom Harris ,Ollie Chenoweth and ex Bodmin players Cam Turner ,Max Gilbert ,Talllan Mitchell 

[Emily91]

32 minutes ago, 100%cornish said:

More than 3 Emily heres 4 for a start Tom Whipp,Dan Jennings , Tom Harris ,Ollie Chenoweth and ex Bodmin players Cam Turner ,Max Gilbert ,Talllan Mitchell 

I was talking about those that were there yesterday, Tom Harris, Dan Jennings, Ollie Chenoweth.. to say these 3 are only there because they play at Bodmin is disrespecting them as players and Gilbys professionalism.. obviously, my opinion, that excuse is used regularly on this page so I'll use it too 😊 

If you watch the 3 of those in question play, regularly, then you'll know how they earnt their place in the squad yesterday. 

[JonColenzo]

Congratulations Kernow on another proud day for the county, another great win by a quality squad of players. The Cascadia squad consisted of step 3 and 4 players so were by no means a walk over. OUR Kernow squad are very well balanced and play like a team that’s been together a lot longer than they actually have, so well done to players, coaches and management, at the end of the day you can only play what’s put in front of you.

Once again Congratulations team 👏.

[Ian Pethick]

Went to watch this yesterday on a pleasant and warm afternoon in North West London, that was only punctuated by the one short and sharp shower. Have to say, for a so called "jolly" (as a previous poster had stated), Kernow looked fit, sharp and well prepared. Cascadia probably weren't the best of opponents (counted three ponytails and a few generous waistlines in the starting line up), and were I understand a completely different outfit from that which had reached the last 8 of the previous CONIFA World Cup (COVID meant that there largely USA and Canada based players couldn't travel, and a side was pulled together from players with Cascadia links that were based in London), but Kernow went about their business in a really convincing manner from the off.

Admittedly a somewhat cumbersome Cascadia back line (featuring Patrick Wilson as captain, who's day job is on the coaching staff at AFC Bournemouth) granted plenty of time and space for the Kernow players to operate in, but the pace and movement of Hayden Turner, Mark Goldsworthy and Dan Jennings tore them to pieces.  Will Tinsley and Jack Calver also enjoyed the freedom of the flanks coming forward, but the real stars of the side were Max Gilbert and Tallan Mitchell in midfield. As I have said, the opposition wasn't the greatest, but these two sparkled. The only thing that was disappointing for Kernow was that they went in only 3-1 up after half time . Cascadia actually briefly got into the game midway through the first half with Gavin McCallum (a former Canadian international),Tayshan Hayden-Smith (rated at one time as the "English Neymar" and who had briefly had spells with Crystal Palace, Brentford, Aldershot and Newcastle as well as several step 2 and 3 non league clubs) and Taylor Fisher (former UC Berkely in California and currently with Poole in Southern League Prem) becoming more influential ,and got the score back to 3-1 through a penalty by Max Oldham. Normal service was soon resumed, and a succession of chances were again spurned by Kernow.

The second half resumed with the same pattern of very much one way traffic with Gilbert rounding off his hat trick, before the impressive sub Harry Clarke scoring with an absolute peach of a lob over the busy ex AFC Bournemouth youth team keeper James Mayo (he has to take big credit for a string of saves that kept the score below cricket proportions), but, yet again, lots of chances going begging as the Cascadians tired. Another that caught mine and another spectators eye was Tom Hands, on as a sub, and was very tidy in marking the aforementioned McCallum (as mentioned a former full international, but also very seasoned in the lower reaches of league football and various step 1 and 2 clubs around London and the South East.).

I was pretty cynical about the whole Kernow FA to start with, but I am gradually becoming more enthusiastic about it. Darren Gilbert certainly seemed very motivated and was enjoying the occasion, and perhaps it will give him a renewed focus and enthusiasm for the game as his Bodmin career approaches its latter stages. If he can keep this group of players together and interested, and manages to integrate others from step 3 and 4, then I could see them being a formidable outfit. I know people are sniffy about CONIFA, but if it provides a platform for the Cornish players and game in general, then how can it be a bad thing? This, together with Cornish clubs pushing into step 5 football, is part of the same thing in my eyes. I was speaking to a couple of supporters from step 5 club, Tower Hamlets, who had come along to see what was going on, and were pleasantly surprised and impressed by one or two of the Kernow players.

Perhaps this project helps to show people like this that non league football doesn't cease to exist past the end of the M5.

 

 

 

[Jeremy Wade]

As much as I think Darren is a good manager and will do a fine job, shouldn't the "national" team manager be someone who hasn't got a team, so they can go to games all over the county on "scouting trips" and pick the best players in form?

JW

[Mike Odgers]

The 'National' team should be under the Cornwall FA banner affiliated to The FA and then FIFA

[sportsman10]

I think people in Cornwall would definitely take it more seriously if a impartial manager was in charge and he was picking the very best players available instead of the same faces or names on his phone 

not a single saltash player in that squad even tho they have pretty much dominated the league and cups for the last few years. 

[Dave Deacon]

Can’t be too often a team wins 8-1 and it still seems as if it’s not good enough! 🤭

[Martin Eddy]

Dave it’s the British way,if it’s going well then let’s destroy it.

[Ian Pethick]

14 hours ago, sportsman10 said:

I think people in Cornwall would definitely take it more seriously if a impartial manager was in charge and he was picking the very best players available instead of the same faces or names on his phone 

not a single saltash player in that squad even tho they have pretty much dominated the league and cups for the last few years. 

How do we know which players were approached, and who were  either not available or interested? To get a squad of 17 to travel to NW London on a Saturday for a friendly match is pretty good going (know that the coach left Bodmin at 6am, and wouldn't think they were back there much before 11pm). Having watched the game, you could see from from the warm up routines and pre match rituals that the players looked very happy to be there. Putting together a team is sometimes more than just picking the best players for each position (although that is a big part of it), you also need  the various characters and personalities to gel together. With Darren Gilbert and Andy Graham picking large blocks of players they knew well from their current clubs or who they had worked with in the past, they knew what they were getting. 

[GRTourist]

On 23/05/2021 at 13:08, Way Of The Park said:

Went to watch this yesterday on a pleasant and warm afternoon in North West London, that was only punctuated by the one short and sharp shower. Have to say, for a so called "jolly" (as a previous poster had stated), Kernow looked fit, sharp and well prepared. Cascadia probably weren't the best of opponents (counted three ponytails and a few generous waistlines in the starting line up), and were I understand a completely different outfit from that which had reached the last 8 of the previous CONIFA World Cup (COVID meant that there largely USA and Canada based players couldn't travel, and a side was pulled together from players with Cascadia links that were based in London), but Kernow went about their business in a really convincing manner from the off.

Admittedly a somewhat cumbersome Cascadia back line (featuring Patrick Wilson as captain, who's day job is on the coaching staff at AFC Bournemouth) granted plenty of time and space for the Kernow players to operate in, but the pace and movement of Hayden Turner, Mark Goldsworthy and Dan Jennings tore them to pieces.  Will Tinsley and Jack Calver also enjoyed the freedom of the flanks coming forward, but the real stars of the side were Max Gilbert and Tallan Mitchell in midfield. As I have said, the opposition wasn't the greatest, but these two sparkled. The only thing that was disappointing for Kernow was that they went in only 3-1 up after half time . Cascadia actually briefly got into the game midway through the first half with Gavin McCallum (a former Canadian international),Tayshan Hayden-Smith (rated at one time as the "English Neymar" and who had briefly had spells with Crystal Palace, Brentford, Aldershot and Newcastle as well as several step 2 and 3 non league clubs) and Taylor Fisher (former UC Berkely in California and currently with Poole in Southern League Prem) becoming more influential ,and got the score back to 3-1 through a penalty by Max Oldham. Normal service was soon resumed, and a succession of chances were again spurned by Kernow.

The second half resumed with the same pattern of very much one way traffic with Gilbert rounding off his hat trick, before the impressive sub Harry Clarke scoring with an absolute peach of a lob over the busy ex AFC Bournemouth youth team keeper James Mayo (he has to take big credit for a string of saves that kept the score below cricket proportions), but, yet again, lots of chances going begging as the Cascadians tired. Another that caught mine and another spectators eye was Tom Hands, on as a sub, and was very tidy in marking the aforementioned McCallum (as mentioned a former full international, but also very seasoned in the lower reaches of league football and various step 1 and 2 clubs around London and the South East.).

I was pretty cynical about the whole Kernow FA to start with, but I am gradually becoming more enthusiastic about it. Darren Gilbert certainly seemed very motivated and was enjoying the occasion, and perhaps it will give him a renewed focus and enthusiasm for the game as his Bodmin career approaches its latter stages. If he can keep this group of players together and interested, and manages to integrate others from step 3 and 4, then I could see them being a formidable outfit. I know people are sniffy about CONIFA, but if it provides a platform for the Cornish players and game in general, then how can it be a bad thing? This, together with Cornish clubs pushing into step 5 football, is part of the same thing in my eyes. I was speaking to a couple of supporters from step 5 club, Tower Hamlets, who had come along to see what was going on, and were pleasantly surprised and impressed by one or two of the Kernow players.

Perhaps this project helps to show people like this that non league football doesn't cease to exist past the end of the M5.

 

 

 

Thanks WOTP, that's really interesting.

For those commenting that this was clearly a jolly, the names WOTP lists there are some seriously good players.  Tayshan Hayden-Smith trained with Hampton last summer and is a really gifted player at Step Three, Maxwell Oldham was with Corinthian-Casuals at Step Three and Bedfont Sports at Step Four in the last two seasons, whilst McCallum spent last season with Dartford, one of the favourites in National League South.

Big credit to the players and staff who represented Kernow.