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Ready or not to go on the 29th March 2021?


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7 hours ago, Sijames said:

£20+ from what some have said, times that by all who have paid and the small amount of football they have played this season and many would be well within their rights to want it back? 
 

league and CCFA fees the same, even clubs insurance would be one I’d expect reimbursement considering it’s been out of the clubs hands they’ve not been able to play etc?

CCFA Affiliation for clubs and referees was free this season.

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another urban myth developing. Just because football isn't happening doesn't mean to say the bills aren't still coming in. Nobody told grass about covid so it still grows. We at  Hayle are still paying out for insurance, gas, electric, telephone line, and general maintenance in anticipation of the season starting some time. Apart from the people generously paying their subs and a government grant, 9 out of the last 10 months income has been zilch and with outgoings of about £700 per month our reserves are suffering.

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4 hours ago, Ieuan Gregory said:

another urban myth developing. Just because football isn't happening doesn't mean to say the bills aren't still coming in. Nobody told grass about covid so it still grows. We at  Hayle are still paying out for insurance, gas, electric, telephone line, and general maintenance in anticipation of the season starting some time. Apart from the people generously paying their subs and a government grant, 9 out of the last 10 months income has been zilch and with outgoings of about £700 per month our reserves are suffering.

Great post Ieuan,  football is not free even when you are not playing! 

Everyone still wants their money. 

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Redruth United do not have a signing on fee and until this season charged subs for both teams. This is difficult with our first team in St. Pirans league so decided not to collect subs from them but, the understanding was they had to fund raise to replace subs. It’s hard but we keep our heads above water and all through lockdown have been raising money every month. 
That said at present we don’t have the outgoings of clubs that own there grounds. But are working towards it hopefully in the future to get a long lease.

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On 27/02/2021 at 08:51, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

And the biggest idiot is running the country.

Now older - don't bring politics into it ! 🙂

1 hour ago, Postman Pat said:

Redruth United do not have a signing on fee and until this season charged subs for both teams. This is difficult with our first team in St. Pirans league so decided not to collect subs from them but, the understanding was they had to fund raise to replace subs. It’s hard but we keep our heads above water and all through lockdown have been raising money every month. 
That said at present we don’t have the outgoings of clubs that own there grounds. But are working towards it hopefully in the future to get a long lease.

Good attitude PP - best wishes to the club.

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The following options have been sent to the club secretaries for the clubs to consider and reply with the option they would like to go with

1. Curtail season 20-21 forth with. Make all games Nul and void.

2. Carry on with season until original closure date of end of May. All clubs to play each other once on an available pitch of either team, and promotion and relegation to be decided on these games. This will possibly require midweek travel. Any club unable to fulfil the scheduled fixture will forfeit the points and be find as league rules.

3. Cancel season 20-21 make all games Nul and void. Replace this with a cup comp consisting of 2 mini leagues per division, where possible. Each team to play each other team in section once on an available ground of either team. The winners of each mini league to meet in a one of final on an available ground. Any club that wishes not to participate in this comp will not be find in anyway.Where possible no fixtures will be made midweek to prevent travel. 

4. Carry on with league fixtures until extended period sanctioned by The CCFA till the end of June. It is an option but the committee can see pitfulls in this proposal in that not all clubs will be allowed to continue using hired pitches and match official availability. This would only be considered if the majority of clubs wish to go down this route.

5. Allow any club that wishes to cease playing in remainder of season do so with no penalties. Club would remain in the division they are in at present when constitution of league is formulated at next AGM, unless they wish to be relegated to next lower division.

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9 hours ago, Pitty said:

The following options have been sent to the club secretaries for the clubs to consider and reply with the option they would like to go with

1. Curtail season 20-21 forth with. Make all games Nul and void.

2. Carry on with season until original closure date of end of May. All clubs to play each other once on an available pitch of either team, and promotion and relegation to be decided on these games. This will possibly require midweek travel. Any club unable to fulfil the scheduled fixture will forfeit the points and be find as league rules.

3. Cancel season 20-21 make all games Nul and void. Replace this with a cup comp consisting of 2 mini leagues per division, where possible. Each team to play each other team in section once on an available ground of either team. The winners of each mini league to meet in a one of final on an available ground. Any club that wishes not to participate in this comp will not be find in anyway.Where possible no fixtures will be made midweek to prevent travel. 

4. Carry on with league fixtures until extended period sanctioned by The CCFA till the end of June. It is an option but the committee can see pitfulls in this proposal in that not all clubs will be allowed to continue using hired pitches and match official availability. This would only be considered if the majority of clubs wish to go down this route.

5. Allow any club that wishes to cease playing in remainder of season do so with no penalties. Club would remain in the division they are in at present when constitution of league is formulated at next AGM, unless they wish to be relegated to next lower division.

Just so I can get my head around it, does 'Option 2' continue on with the league table as is? Or would it reset to zero, and you would just have these games?

If it resets to zero, then Option 4 is the only one that actually benefits sides near the top of the league. As you would've guessed I'm writing this as a player for one of those clubs, but to me it seems unfair that our previous 9 league games would count for nothing yet these new ones do. Baring in mind the Trelawny League will now be flooded with higher league players!

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5 minutes ago, cornish leg end said:

Null and void the season aim to start next season a month earlier. Make use of the best weather. Less games to catch up when the rain comes. Easy! 

You got it in one...totally sensible thing to do, and a lot clearer picture of where we are with safety concerns. 

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4 hours ago, 1ofthekids said:

Just so I can get my head around it, does 'Option 2' continue on with the league table as is? Or would it reset to zero, and you would just have these games?

If it resets to zero, then Option 4 is the only one that actually benefits sides near the top of the league. As you would've guessed I'm writing this as a player for one of those clubs, but to me it seems unfair that our previous 9 league games would count for nothing yet these new ones do. Baring in mind the Trelawny League will now be flooded with higher league players!

Would a lot of clubs go for option 5 so they do not fall foul of option 2. The last thing clubs want is to pay fines out of depleted cash funds.

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3 hours ago, panda said:

Would a lot of clubs go for option 5 so they do not fall foul of option 2. The last thing clubs want is to pay fines out of depleted cash funds.

Having had Option 2 cleared up (thanks David 👍), this would only result in 2 or 3 games left maximum for each side and would get the season finished, but with the previous games and current league table meaning something. Seems logical to if we want the 20/21 season to count. But then I would think that, ha!

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More than anything, I think all involved need clarity and soon. A decision has to be made and justified as soon as possible, because the longer there is uncertainty, the more frustration grows. 
-Its a shorter period of time than usual (by a huge margin) for the number of games still left to play.

-there’s a justifiable argument for players physical and mental well-being in bringing the sport back

-like wise there’s a risk of infection still and, is that a reasonable risk to take at this stage, or would the odds change dramatically in waiting a few months?

for me, and I can’t speak on behalf of the club I’m associated with, I just want a decision made so we can get organised and if needs be put on a summer tournament. 
My biggest gripe at the moment, is that we are talking about 23-30 people playing football and whether it’s safe, but festivals have been given the green light already and sold out in minutes. For me, (and it’s solely my opinion) if 50,000 people can mix without a track and trace system, and possibly even walk around the community with symptoms they believe to be the hangover from hell, Where’s the greater risk? 

cancel the season, get tournaments and friendlies set up amongst ourselves and start next season a fresh.

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The olderthelegs and Cornish legend have the most sensible and something this country lacks - common sense -approach to this situation.

Yes we all want football to be played but surely to wait a few months (as the virus is still very much around us-i know of 3 people testing positive this week) and hopefully have a clear and fresh start. I would think the 123 thousand people would agree this if they had the option.

 

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