Dave Deacon Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Bobjfh said: You fickle thing you😂 Might as well upset everyone! 😀😀😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BIG AL said: You are always correct of course. Better than always being WRONG most of the time AL? silly billy and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 52 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Better than always being WRONG most of the time AL? In my mind, I am never wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BIG AL said: I read this in the paper this morning so I am not a liar! I'm surprised you need a newspaper with you magical powers of predicting things. mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, silly billy said: I'm surprised you need a newspaper with you magical powers of predicting things. I am surprised that you are so sarcastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, BIG AL said: I am surprised that you are so sarcastic! In my mind I'm never sarcastic! mattelot, GRTourist, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, silly billy said: In my mind I'm never sarcastic! Not a constructive mind like mine though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballlover442 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 St blazey 0 Liskeard 1 half time then abandoned due to lighting despite it being lighter than last week the reff couldn't see a corner flag from the middle of the pitch apparently,Both sides wanted to play supporters confused and befuddled by the whole situation everyone else could see the pitch and the corner flags but the reff Other than that was a good 45 mins Liskeard the better side. Blazey poor at the back Rocket Ronnie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Footballlover442 said: St blazey 0 Liskeard 1 half time then abandoned due to lighting despite it being lighter than last week the reff couldn't see a corner flag from the middle of the pitch apparently,Both sides wanted to play supporters confused and befuddled by the whole situation everyone else could see the pitch and the corner flags but the reff Other than that was a good 45 mins Liskeard the better side. Blazey poor at the back What a farce. What has the club turned in to, supporters invading the field of play to protect siblings after a tackle, hooliganism at Falmouth on the terraces last season, & now two evening games postponed during play in the last week. What the hell is going on at St. Blazey? Points could be docked here or else other clubs will follow suit & pull their floodlight card when they are losing. Losing both games comfortably as well with the lighting issues saving them. Very poor decision to jepordise health if there was any doubt the lights wouldn't work. How supporter's social distance in the dark leaving the ground? Irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 I'm assuming you were at the game leedsunited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzvaliant Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: Green and Black Saturday as attending the St Blazey match! Red and white on Tuesday as taking in the Saltash FA Cup match! 😀😃 👏👏👏👏⚽️😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Why wasn’t the blazey match reversed and played at liskeard if they had issues with the lights. Again people have payed to watch a game and it’s been called off. Journeyman009 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman009 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Typical blazey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Guess it comes to down money. Players need paying so it’s all about getting paying fans in. But if you got issues with lighting surly the sensible option it is to play at liskeard. There must be some pretty annoyed spectators out of pocket now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 11 hours ago, leedsunited said: What a farce. What has the club turned in to, supporters invading the field of play to protect siblings after a tackle, hooliganism at Falmouth on the terraces last season, & now two evening games postponed during play in the last week. What the hell is going on at St. Blazey? Points could be docked here or else other clubs will follow suit & pull their floodlight card when they are losing. Losing both games comfortably as well with the lighting issues saving them. Very poor decision to jepordise health if there was any doubt the lights wouldn't work. How supporter's social distance in the dark leaving the ground? Irresponsible. I wonder if the refs fee was abandoned as well ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philheybrookbay Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Looking at Twitter it could be worse. The floodlights caught fire at Wellington v Bridgwater in the Western League last night. Perhaps the floodlights have gone feral....😂😃 Rocket Ronnie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Wade Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Managed to get out of the house last night and take in my first game of the season. Porthleven (1) v Falmouth Town (3). Porthleven got off to the best start possible scoring from a corner in the first 2 minutes of the game. Falmouth levelled 15 minutes into the second half and then took the lead pretty much straight from KO. they put the game to bed not long after that. From what i saw last night Falmouth are missing a "proper forward". And Porthleven are in for a very long season, half the squad are half descent St Piran's players treading water out of their depth. JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roche Raider Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 A lot of malice and vitriol coming from certain individuals regarding last nights events at Blaise Park on social media. These types of comments can often be in jest but when there's clear and obvious resentment displayed, it hardly paints the clubs involved, in positive lights. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie777 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 13 hours ago, leedsunited said: What a farce. What has the club turned in to, supporters invading the field of play to protect siblings after a tackle, hooliganism at Falmouth on the terraces last season, & now two evening games postponed during play in the last week. What the hell is going on at St. Blazey? Points could be docked here or else other clubs will follow suit & pull their floodlight card when they are losing. Losing both games comfortably as well with the lighting issues saving them. Very poor decision to jepordise health if there was any doubt the lights wouldn't work. How supporter's social distance in the dark leaving the ground? Irresponsible. One victory and you soon return spouting your usual utter rubbish Bruegel the Elder and Rocket Ronnie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Mr Bean said: Really? The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Boy Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Deacon said: The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! 100% disagree no need for the fwd to challenge for the ball as he wasn’t going to get anywhere near it and then cause the collision with the defender and the keeper. His actions could of lead to two potentially serious injuries. Lucky only one and from social media reports he is on the mend, good to hear. Watching the highlights reel, I’m sure if the shoe was the other foot Helston would be asking for red as they seem to appeal for every foul and want to ref the game on behalf of the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Wade Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Deacon said: The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! After seeing the footage, i have to agree with you @Dave Deacon. 7 minutes ago, Del Boy said: 100% disagree no need for the fwd to challenge for the ball as he wasn’t going to get anywhere near it and then cause the collision with the defender and the keeper. His actions could of lead to two potentially serious injuries. Lucky only one and from social media reports he is on the mend, good to hear. Watching the highlights reel, I’m sure if the shoe was the other foot Helston would be asking for red as they seem to appeal for every foul and want to ref the game on behalf of the ref. @Del Boywould you class it as Serious Foul Play or Violent Conduct? JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Boy Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jeremy Wade said: After seeing the footage, i have to agree with you @Dave Deacon. @Del Boywould you class it as Serious Foul Play or Violent Conduct? JW JW, Watching the video I think the incident is 100% avoidable. Endangering an opponent is cause for the red card in my opinion. Serious Foul Play “A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernowfooty Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 The defender should of been aware of his surroundings and seen the keeper coming out, I'm sure a keeper of Harvey's calibre would have shouted "keepers". Not even a foul, just an unfortunate coming together. If the keeper had caught the striker with his raised knee nothing would have been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Del Boy said: 100% disagree no need for the fwd to challenge for the ball as he wasn’t going to get anywhere near it and then cause the collision with the defender and the keeper. His actions could of lead to two potentially serious injuries. Lucky only one and from social media reports he is on the mend, good to hear. Watching the highlights reel, I’m sure if the shoe was the other foot Helston would be asking for red as they seem to appeal for every foul and want to ref the game on behalf of the ref. Great to be back in Cornwall and although yet to watch a local match in person, so grateful for any video highlights. Thanks to all clubs that make the effort to publish. Certainly seems to have been a lively start to the season. Just watched Mousehole v Helston video and clearly not a red card, if I was Helston I would certainly be appealing the decision. As for you Del Boy, all I can say is like your brother Dave, you clearly must be a 'right plonker' to think otherwise 😂😂 silly billy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobjfh Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 I did try in an earlier post to gain a refs perspective but that won’t now happen from a current ref as this is a matter the CCFA will be looking at. Having now watched the highlights - to me it was a foul - by MB on the defender as he ran into him and probably intentionally - but not a foul on the keeper who was the one ‘endangered’ - it does look like the ref has taken the serious nature of the injury to apply that the foul was serious foul play (there being no excessive force or brutality). My point being if Corey was not injured (by the defender) would it have even been a yellow card - you see these pushes / contacts every game, fortunately without these consequences. As an aside - immediately before the ball resulting in the incident it looked more like a foul on the Mousehole player. And, if this is an example of Helston’s behaviour in screaming for everything they are not going to win over any new fans - despite how good they may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! I'd agree, red card was very harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 The video evidence shows without a shadow of doubt that no foul took place. The red card will have to be overturned if video evidence is allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie777 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 If that's a red card then we had might as well not bother playing anymore, just a very unfortunate coming together, 9 times out of 10 nobody would get injured and no red card would have been given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bobjfh said: And, if this is an example of Helston’s behaviour in screaming for everything they are not going to win over any new fans - despite how good they may be. Have to admit the screaming stuff experienced at games does my head in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 23 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: Green and Black Saturday as attending the St Blazey match! Red and white on Tuesday as taking in the Saltash FA Cup match! 😀😃 Get your blue tinted glasses wiped clean for Wednesday evening Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Piran said: Get your blue tinted glasses wiped clean for Wednesday evening Dave. I’m not so sure, always had a soft spot for Newquay! 😎 When it’s two CORNISH sides playing each other - completely neutral when commentating as hopefully you might have detected Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedding280991 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! I agree with you Dave. Never a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 No push, keeper ran into his own player...simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAGMAN Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: The video footage is available to view now on Piran Films You Tube and I stand by my first suggestion that the red card was harsh! In fact now I have seen it again - very harsh indeed! I’ve a feeling if they appeal this one could be overturned! TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Boy Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: Have to admit the screaming stuff experienced at games does my head in! All teams are like it now, players and benches. Try to ref the games and question every decision/foul. Refs don’t want the abuse and number of refs is deteriorating each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roche Raider Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Del Boy said: All teams are like it now, players and benches. Try to ref the games and question every decision/foul. Refs don’t want the abuse and number of refs is deteriorating each year. General misdemeanour on display during that short video is nothing short of abhorrent. Seems sadly, this league has a plethora of thuggish brutes who wish to cause havoc on a pitch rather than get on with the game. It really doesn't do grassroots football any favours but stalwarts will say it's 'grit and determination'. Absolutely no need whatsoever to endanger an opponent simply for the cost of winning in my humble opinion. You can be competitive without being a nasty piece of work. Dave Deacon, Bruegel the Elder and CRD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Balsdon Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I would say the red is harsh. I would say the defender is trying to make it as easy as possible for his keeper to have a catch with no challenge and is looking to shield the ball from striker. In trying to get to the ball maybe a small push but I would say that a similar thing happens at about 6.40 where player loses ball, slates shields and lad tries to get to the ball and there is a little push, however no collision. I don't know the laws well enough (despite trying to overturn refs decisions for years) to know whether the severity of the injury can alter a decision. The collision is unpleasant and clearly the keeper needed treatment and I am glad that he seems to be on the road to recovery. I do think that this is the sort of decision that could split opinion between officials let alone supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 17:06, Mr Bean said: Really? I understand the appeal has been heard and the decision overturned with the red card rescinded meaning that the Helston player will be available for selection for their game next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 As stated on twitter Thank you to footage supplied by @Piranfilms, @helstonafc advise they have been successful in appealing the red card issued against their No 11 in last Tuesdays match away to @MouseholeAFC The club wishes a speedy return to football to @coryharvey30 TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: I understand the appeal has been heard and the decision overturned with the red card rescinded meaning that the Helston player will be available for selection for their game next Wednesday. Any other outcome would have meant any kind of appeal for any red cards in future would be pointless. Still shocked that the officials came to that decision in the 1st place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Watched the incident back on the excellent Piran Films coverage of the highlights. Had about 10 looks at it and it looks to me that each player is doing exactly what they should be! Excellent brave goalkeeping from Cory, good shielding from the defender, and Matty chasing the ball down like any striker would. Looked like Matty had half a hand on the defenders back but no suggestion of a push at all in my opinion! Not even a yellow card for me! Hope Cory is back between the sticks soon and Matty doesn't miss any games through an undeserved suspension. ⚽️👍 sorry driving to Scotland and noticed the above posts!! Thats what yiu get for posting on your phone half blind!!! Correct decision, well done to all concerned coming to it. 👏 Can i add im at a standstill at Cullompton due to an accident! I don't text on my phone whilst driving!! 🤔😷 Dave Bartlam and Bruegel the Elder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 17/09/2020 at 09:16, Philheybrookbay said: Looking at Twitter it could be worse. The floodlights caught fire at Wellington v Bridgwater in the Western League last night. Perhaps the floodlights have gone feral....😂😃 It's the rise of the machines, humans will be soon be ruled by rogue floodlights. mattelot and Dave Deacon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobjfh Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, RAPPO said: Watched the incident back on the excellent Piran Films coverage of the highlights. Had about 10 looks at it and it looks to me that each player is doing exactly what they should be! Excellent brave goalkeeping from Cory, good shielding from the defender, and Matty chasing the ball down like any striker would. Looked like Matty had half a hand on the defenders back but no suggestion of a push at all in my opinion! Not even a yellow card for me! Hope Cory is back between the sticks soon and Matty doesn't miss any games through an undeserved suspension. ⚽️👍 sorry driving to Scotland and noticed the above posts!! Thats what yiu get for posting on your phone half blind!!! Correct decision, well done to all concerned coming to it. 👏 Can i add im at a standstill at Cullompton due to an accident! I don't text on my phone whilst driving!! 🤔😷 Rappo - (when you get to read this lol) - I do agree with your comments and sentiments. I am surprised though as to how quickly this has been resolved - hats off to ccfa if it can all be done in under three days. I only raise that as I am aware of a player sent off in a two leagues lower who has been suspended and his case sine die awaiting full hearing (obviously with no date set - viz sine die) - he is effectively suspended until the ccfa hear his case - which is something I have not heard of before?? Looks like Piran films earned their money for Helston, without it there could have been no appeal - makes you think that all clubs should video games to avoid wrongful cards - and entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky170267 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bobjfh said: Rappo - (when you get to read this lol) - I do agree with your comments and sentiments. I am surprised though as to how quickly this has been resolved - hats off to ccfa if it can all be done in under three days. I only raise that as I am aware of a player sent off in a two leagues lower who has been suspended and his case sine die awaiting full hearing (obviously with no date set - viz sine die) - he is effectively suspended until the ccfa hear his case - which is something I have not heard of before?? Looks like Piran films earned their money for Helston, without it there could have been no appeal - makes you think that all clubs should video games to avoid wrongful cards - and entertainment. Most clubs can’t find anyone to do it but Saltash are advertising for a videographer and have been for a while !! Anyone interested please contact the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Cheers Bob, lovely 9 hour drive in the end!! Celtic home today as well and can’t even go and watch them mate!! Yeah I was surprised as well how quickly it was sorted and come to the right conclusion. Seems a bit harsh being banned until your hearing! Guilty before being proved innocent 🤔 hope you’re well Bob and good to see Ed and the Camels flying start to the season mate 👏🏼👍⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 If the keeper didn’t get injured and got up I doubt there would have even been a yellow card . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppit Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, RAPPO said: Cheers Bob, lovely 9 hour drive in the end!! Celtic home today as well and can’t even go and watch them mate!! Yeah I was surprised as well how quickly it was sorted and come to the right conclusion. Seems a bit harsh being banned until your hearing! Guilty before being proved innocent 🤔 hope you’re well Bob and good to see Ed and the Camels flying start to the season mate 👏🏼👍⚽️ Rappo, if you go to Edinburgh take a tour of Murryfield it's an awesome stadium,also Easter Road home of Hibs and Tyncastle home of Hearts are impressive. More impressive than the standard of Scottish football me thinks. RAPPO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Tucker Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 17/09/2020 at 16:01, Del Boy said: 100% disagree no need for the fwd to challenge for the ball as he wasn’t going to get anywhere near it and then cause the collision with the defender and the keeper. His actions could of lead to two potentially serious injuries. Lucky only one and from social media reports he is on the mend, good to hear. Watching the highlights reel, I’m sure if the shoe was the other foot Helston would be asking for red as they seem to appeal for every foul and want to ref the game on behalf of the ref. please note I was not at the game, and have not spoken to anyone involved in the game. I am posing this from watching a video, with 1 angle from 50/60 metres away! Definition of Serious foul play A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play Picture these two descriptions of watching the video. I’m sure any defending team with 2 players down would be insisting there was a push/shove. 1- defender and attacker running after the long ball. Gk comes to collect the ball and is in the air. Attacker shoves defender in the back making him collide with keeper whilst he is in the air 2- defender and attacker running after the long ball. GK comes to collect the ball and is in the air. Defender slows down/checks his pace to avoid GK. attacker being so close can’t slow down in time and contact is made with defender, causing him to collide with keeper whilst he is in the air. What would your decision be for both descriptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claret&blue Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Surely it is unfair to have a red card rescinded correct or otherwise due to video evidence at this level, as not all teams have footage of matches / incidents? mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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