Xanie25 Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Can you please tell me if spectators are allowed to pre season friendlies or when we can officially attend league matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 It seems you can watch games between two "grassroots" teams from 1st August but not any games featuring NLS teams - even if they're playing a "grassroots" team. The earliest date (mentioned by Boris) for spectators to return to stadiums is 1st October but the FA have requested early September. No decision announce yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 I have noticed on the St Blazey website they are playing Plymouth Parkway on the 4th August im thinking of going down to watch this will spectators be allowed to attend this match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Not according to the latest FA regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry H Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 I understand combo and below are allowed spectators, St Piran and above are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, John Mead said: Not according to the latest FA regulations. With an average of 30 to 50 spectators spread around the ground, what is the problem? For heaven’s sake get on with life! Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Justice Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 There has never been a better time for clubs to take back control and say that players will not be paid as there is no revenue from gate money. I doubt clubs will get this chance again. sportsman10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Always use to be the case that club takings and crowds paying would go towards funding the players. Be interesting to know what clubs are in financial trouble by the end of this season if they promised more then they can afford to certain players. Especially if we get another lockdown at winter. I would have thought getting players to play for nothing for a season to help out would have been a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, BIG AL said: With an average of 30 to 50 spectators spread around the ground, what is the problem? For heaven’s sake get on with life! You ready for this Al. WELL SAID! Quiet Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 We have heard that Bodmin are very keen to know when the spectators are coming back !😂 TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, silly billy, mattelot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, sportsman10 said: Always use to be the case that club takings and crowds paying would go towards funding the players. Be interesting to know what clubs are in financial trouble by the end of this season if they promised more then they can afford to certain players. Especially if we get another lockdown at winter. I would have thought getting players to play for nothing for a season to help out would have been a great idea. Could be a tell tale burst of transfer activity when players realise there is a gap between what clubs can give them, and what was promised when they signed on. mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 hours ago, GKBH said: I understand combo and below are allowed spectators, St Piran and above are not. As Step 7 is no more and St Piran is now a Regional NLS Feeder League it comes under the grassroots regulations the same as the Combo/ECPL etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: You ready for this Al. WELL SAID! Thank you. It seems the fa at Wembley headquarters have no idea about football outside of their premier league and probably assume that all the non league clubs have attendances of thousands! Quiet Man and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 hours ago, We Two said: We have heard that Bodmin are very keen to know when the spectators are coming back !😂 Pick on the league's most successful Swpl club time again .. 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 hours ago, We Two said: We have heard that Bodmin are very keen to know when the spectators are coming back !😂 Which one ? 😁 silly billy, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas and We Two 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Both of them TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, We Two and mattelot 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Not allowed 50 spectators round a football pitch. But you’re allowed to go to a park or to a beach Where there are loads of others!! Brilliant TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, mattelot and Quiet Man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 I read the directives from the FA and sought clarification from a well known league secretary. It is the GROUND on which the match is played that determines if spectators are allowed. St Austell res v Foxhole No spectators cos St A firsts are at Step 6. No spectators for PSF at Steps 1-6. Foxhole v St Austell reserves Spectators are allowed as Foxhole play below Step 6. Groups of up to 6 spectators allowed. No limit on number of groups? Still a grey area, things may change, clubs may turn a blind eye, clubs may leave their gates open .... Ian Pethick and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyRaa Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 I shall be popping over to the ashes bar on Saturday, to coincide with their friendly against millbrook TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golong Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 The FA do not care about grass roots football, plain and simple! protect the premier league at all costs! $$$$$ Quiet Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Why can the Cornwall fa not get involved on this issue, after all they are there presumably to cater for local football? There again I suppose that would mean effort! Quiet Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yid Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Without the spectators being allowed into the matches who will cover the club expenses. The FA? Even if clubs do not pay players there are regular over heads such as referees to pay, affiliation fees, insurances and utility bills as well as ground maintenance. Surely the season cannot start until the clubs can generate income? A common sense approach is needed from the bottom up and not the other way around. Foul Throw 3, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas, Ian Pethick and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 27/07/2020 at 21:57, baldy said: I read the directives from the FA and sought clarification from a well known league secretary. It is the GROUND on which the match is played that determines if spectators are allowed. St Austell res v Foxhole No spectators cos St A firsts are at Step 6. No spectators for PSF at Steps 1-6. Foxhole v St Austell reserves Spectators are allowed as Foxhole play below Step 6. Groups of up to 6 spectators allowed. No limit on number of groups? Still a grey area, things may change, clubs may turn a blind eye, clubs may leave their gates open .... So, if two groups of six stand in close proximity to each other,and start to merge together (debating a referee decision, or celebrating a goal for example) would the host club be expected to separate them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, Way Of The Park said: So, if two groups of six stand in close proximity to each other,and start to merge together (debating a referee decision, or celebrating a goal for example) would the host club be expected to separate them? My understanding is - yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Yesterday, I saw on the BBC Sport app that the National League are starting on October 3rd, subject to FA approval and presumably the government. I was waiting for some reaction from somewhere but there has been none. If correct, then Steps 1-6 would start then with presumably restricted number of supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave bunt Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Just been told by ECPL secretary that Foxhole Stars can't have spectators for friendlies either home or away, this surely needs clearing up as Foxhole play on a recreation field, how can we stop people using it? No spectators means no income, with expenses like referee fees & kit wash to pay for our cash reserve won't last very long. baldy and Ian Pethick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 I know that this is easy to say but clubs need to think outside the box, there are ways and means of fundraising. For example Helston have had Chairman’s bingo on the pitch. My club Redruth United have a monthly 50 / 50 draw and right through lockdown have been raising over £100 every month. It’s not a lot but it all helps. Local companies will find it harder to support our clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Clubs Clubs be warned if relying upon premises licence to gain a ‘crowd’ at football match. Check licensed areas. Check club rules especially if members club to ensure full compliance. Investigations are in hand by authorities. Surely a few pounds behind the bar is not worth risk if loosing licence, especially at these critical times Ignoring health and welfare matters at your peril Ian Pethick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Sending out 2 different sets of Covid-19 regulations for NLS & Grassroots football just causes confusion. I've read both FA publications at least 4 times, referring also to Gov "rules" where appropriate, and I still cannot say, with any confidence, that I know what's meant to be happening! Quiet Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 If you can go to the pub, gym or leisure centres etc... It's ludicrous that you can't go and watch a local friendly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 27/07/2020 at 20:22, leedsunited said: Pick on the league's most successful Swpl club time again .. 🤭 Didn't realise he was on about Falmouth Town Leeds ?????? Just saying of course...UTT mattelot and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB1 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 I'm pretty sure that all dates for leagues restarting etc (SWPL down to Combo/Duchy) are explicitly under the assumption that spectators will be allowed to watch competitive matches. If this isn't cleared by the start of the leagues, then they will not start! The FA have said grassroots/non league football cannot survive or go ahead without spectators, so all pressure is now on the government to approve the plans the FA submitted. I understand there may well be an update/announcement on 17th August, 2 days after all clubs risk assessments have to be submitted, including the management of spectators. So there is potentially the indication it will be approved before the season starts. Regarding friendlies, the common sense advice I have heard is to not advertise that spectators can come along, not charge an admission, maybe a sign at the unlocked gate saying “enter at your own risk and stay behind the barriers, in groups of a max of 6 and 2 meters between any such groups (By charging an admission though you suddenly are responsible for them!). Marcus Grose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Dont charge admission just go around and ask for donations we in Cornwall are a generous lot and we just want to be unleased back on the grounds so we can watch 22 players kick the crap out of each other TheolderIgetthebetterIwas and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 21 hours ago, Jeff Chambers said: Didn't realise he was on about Falmouth Town Leeds ?????? Just saying of course...UTT Nice one Jeff! 😁 Jeff Chambers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Boy Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Does the spectator rule apply to pre season friendlies? As they don’t come under league/FA rules or do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 The only guidance from the FA is that friendly matches involving NLS Clubs should be held behind closed doors. It doesn't clarify if it applies to an NLS Club against a Grassroots Club or just between two NLS Clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 The government have postponed the latest lockdown easing and it seems the brakes are going back on. I’m thinking this is going to be bad news as surely the brakes will go on supporters being allowed back too and football will be delayed. A lot of uncertainty a head. Stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Mark Jones said: The government have postponed the latest lockdown easing and it seems the brakes are going back on. I’m thinking this is going to be bad news as surely the brakes will go on supporters being allowed back too and football will be delayed. A lot of uncertainty a head. Stay safe. Agree with you Mark, don't think there will be spectators allowed in football grounds in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 29/07/2020 at 22:31, Jeff Chambers said: Didn't realise he was on about Falmouth Town Leeds ?????? Just saying of course...UTT 21 hours ago, mattelot said: Nice one Jeff! 😁 Couple of fools ... 🤣 Read my post .. most successful SWPL ( south west peninsula league ) I wasn't claiming of all time, I clearly stated SWPL .... Tut .. tut ... Nice try though 😂 TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, leedsunited said: Couple of fools ... 🤣 Read my post .. most successful SWPL ( south west peninsula league ) I wasn't claiming of all time, I clearly stated SWPL .... Tut .. tut ... Nice try though 😂 Thank you Leeds. As long as you know the score regarding the history of Cornish football thats fine. lmao x mattelot and silly billy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, leedsunited said: Couple of fools ... 🤣 Read my post .. most successful SWPL ( south west peninsula league ) I wasn't claiming of all time, I clearly stated SWPL .... Tut .. tut ... Nice try though 😂 Well said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Same old crap goin as usual the subject was When will supporters be allowed back into grounds and its changed to tit for tat squabble no point in playing preseason matches if spectators are not allowed in just as well the 1st team play there 2nd teams its going to cost a fortune to Newquay to play Nuneaton at the end of August whats the point if no one can watch them and Plymouth Parkway wouldnt be playing StBlazey for nothing that would be a great game to watch because St BLAZEY have got a really good side this year .Ok thats enougth of that its back to the LEEDS UNITED AND BIG AL SHOW your favourite double act and Entertainers mattelot, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas and silly billy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I cannot find anything in the FA Grassroots "advice" which specifically prevents spectators from attending pre-season matches. IF it's the ground the game is played on which dictates whether spectators are permitted - as mentioned in a previous post - then it would be ok for two Step 6 teams to play against each other, with spectators, by borrowing a "Grassroots" ground and also charge admission! I'm not sure that's what the FA had in mind when stating NLS Clubs must play games in August behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 As @John Mead points out there are a number of scenarios where clarification is needed. I've been chasing this with the FA for two weeks and have yet to get a response. Somebody at some time is going to have to make a decision or two. I just hope it's soon so we all have clarity and can deal with whatever those answers may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Morse Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I'm hopefully off to watch cricket after dinner. As long as I don't touch the ball, and stand 6 feet away from anybody else, it appears I'm perfectly entitled to go. So what's different about watching a football match in a similarly open space? mattelot and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 11 hours ago, 100%cornish said: Same old crap goin as usual the subject was When will supporters be allowed back into grounds and its changed to tit for tat squabble no point in playing preseason matches if spectators are not allowed in just as well the 1st team play there 2nd teams its going to cost a fortune to Newquay to play Nuneaton at the end of August whats the point if no one can watch them and Plymouth Parkway wouldnt be playing StBlazey for nothing that would be a great game to watch because St BLAZEY have got a really good side this year .Ok thats enougth of that its back to the LEEDS UNITED AND BIG AL SHOW your favourite double act and Entertainers Fully agree. Parkway still meant to be playing argyle it’s that 1 game that bring in a ton of money. Pointless pre season if no one can attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Why not just let spectators in as long as they where masks think we would wear full protective clothing if we where allowed in to watch a match i am still thinking of driving to St Blazey Tues night to see them play Parkway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, 100%cornish said: Why not just let spectators in as long as they where masks think we would wear full protective clothing if we where allowed in to watch a match i am still thinking of driving to St Blazey Tues night to see them play Parkway Who going to refuse you entry ? Can bet there be loads from Plymouth driving down to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samd Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, 100%cornish said: Why not just let spectators in as long as they where masks think we would wear full protective clothing if we where allowed in to watch a match i am still thinking of driving to St Blazey Tues night to see them play Parkway I believe this game may well have been reversed to Parkway now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Grassroots football grounds are allowed spectators. mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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