cornishteddyboy Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Results for Saturday 4th January 2020 Hayle Reserves p-p Marazion Ruan Minor (Gavin Perraton 3, Jack Green, Chris Ensink, Sam McWilliams) 6-0 St Agnes Reserves Att - 40 St Day Reserves 1-0 (Matt Wysocki) Penryn Athletic Reserves Att - ??? Wendron United Thirds 0-2 Helston Athletic Thirds (Louis Bell, Olly Christmas) Att - 22 League Cup (2pm) Perranporth Reserves (Chris Wood 2, Paul Robertson 2) 4-6 Rosudgeon (Tom Rowe 2, Ben Fletcher, Jordan Burr, Joe McMullen, Jonty Wheatly) Att - 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just been told hayle vs marazion is off due to marazion not being able to raise a side. Fixture rearranged for a later date and hayle not given the points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, ChrisB said: Just been told hayle vs marazion is off due to marazion not being able to raise a side. Fixture rearranged for a later date and hayle not given the points? Not sure whether you're Hayle connected or not, but if you are I can understand you wanting the points for the title race, however wouldn't it be better as a player to have the game to play later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper#1 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think playing the game would be top of hayle players list seen as though there is so few games left. Apparently a new rule is in place that you can just cancel a game now and get it replayed. 47 players registered for Marazion but can’t get 11 together today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Not sure whether you're Hayle connected or not, but if you are I can understand you wanting the points for the title race, however wouldn't it be better as a player to have the game to play later? Well if they played there own players rather than leaving them on the bench in games they would have 11 on a Saturday and why should it be replayed ?? I only had 10/11 players today and wanted to play many times last season I played with 9/10/11 players poor excuse really but that’s football !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Keeper#1 said: Apparently a new rule is in place I didn’t think in today’s world of officialdom that it is possible to get “new” rules in place that quick! Surely must have been passed at last summer’s AGM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: I didn’t think in today’s world of officialdom that it is possible to get “new” rules in place that quick! Surely must have been passed at last summer’s AGM? Rules for one rules for other’s shambles of a league !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Players just can’t be bothered! Saw they were playing top of the league and chickened out! So only two months ago Marazion got the three points from a walkover against Perranporth, so what’s the difference today in that Hayle not awarded the points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Deacon said: Players just can’t be bothered! Saw they were playing top of the league and chickened out! Your words not mine lol but to be replayed is a farse I’m going to use that sicknesses bug one for sure in the future Dave think everyone will be jumping on that bandwagon 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Justin said: Your words not mine lol but to be replayed is a farse I’m going to use that sicknesses bug one for sure in the future Dave think everyone will be jumping on that bandwagon 😂 Yeah dangerous precedent I would have thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I'm pretty sure that the Combo league set all of their walkovers as postponed until it's discussed at their next committee meeting? SCOR and League rules state that teams giving less than seven days notice forfeit the game (they give the committee the power to do so) so I would imagine that Hayle will be awarded the points at a later date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Wouldn’t bank on it Dave !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza1999 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Don’t think any rule was passed that you can cancel a game think that’s rubbish if you can’t raise a side you get fined docked points and other team is awarded points always been that way so cant see league commitee going against that when it’s dealt with at the meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Spoke to John Roberts he said he spoke to the rest of the committee this morning and agreed to cancel the game and replay it that was his exact words to me !!! Dave Bartlam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper#1 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 My new rule comment was tongue in cheek. Dave Deacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Each postponement for a game not being played results in a charge of failing to fulfill a fixture. Clubs have a chance to respond to the charge and then the situation is discussed at a committee meeting before ANY decisions are made! It's a process which is mandatory in the FA Standard Code of Rules. TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 So how come John other leagues automatically award points for walkovers - eg Wadebridge Reserves today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: So how come John other leagues automatically award points for walkovers - eg Wadebridge Reserves today ? If a team can't raise a side, it's black and white what the charge and outcome is. There's then the case of having consistency. When the reasoning is simply that a team can not raise a side, the Trelawny League will charge the club, apply the points deduction (if it's their second+ offence), award the game to the opposition and issue a financial penalty. As with FA rule, the offending Club havs seven days to appeal that charge. If they do appeal and are successful, if it's been agreed that the sanctions issued against them need changing, that's what happens. This is a regular conversation on here I believe as the Combo League do things a little differently in the sense their walkovers have to go through the Committee first before any action is taken - which technically isn't incorrect. It's up to them and the other league's the process they take so long as it complies with ruling. It's hard to see their process as the rules on their Full Time and CTB's combo website are out of date. justin1 and TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: So how come John other leagues automatically award points for walkovers - eg Wadebridge Reserves today ? No points have yet been awarded for the Millbrook v Wadebridge game today Dave. As I'm confined to bed with the lurgy the charge letter hasn't even been sent yet. It should be showing as postponed on Full-Time and will be, as always, until the clubs responce is received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Steve Carpenter said: No points have yet been awarded for the Millbrook v Wadebridge game today Dave. As I'm confined to bed with the lurgy the charge letter hasn't even been sent yet. It should be showing as postponed on Full-Time and will be, as always, until the clubs responce is received. But whatever it won’t be a case of waiting until the next committee meeting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Carpenter Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: But whatever it won’t be a case of waiting until the next committee meeting! Not normally Dave no. Standard routine of letter out, 7 days to respond (the vast majority do within a day or two) then penalty applied. Any mitigation may delay the process but everything's normally done and dusted within two or three days and often quicker than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Steve Carpenter said: Not normally Dave no. Standard routine of letter out, 7 days to respond (the vast majority do within a day or two) then penalty applied. Any mitigation may delay the process but everything's normally done and dusted within two or three days and often quicker than that. In all disciplinary charges, the clubs have to be given the right to reply to it before any punishment is decided. In addition, all fines have to be listed as maximum amounts in the Fines Tariff. Advice from the FA is that each case must be treated on it's own merits, thus giving the committee the ability to assess any mitigating circumstances which may be present. The Combo Committee don't feel that decision should rest on just one person's shoulders, hence decisions are made at a committee meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 No match reports.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin1 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Went to watch pendeen vs Wadebridge in the cup today and got to admit the best team lost today pretty much like last week's visit to pendeen lol could and should of been over by half time for the deen 2nd half more even and Wadebridge missed a pen as wally fell over on his li e and saved it extra time was even both sides had a couple of chances and then won on pens all in all a decent game and unlucky pendeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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