The unknown Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Having been an avid supporter of the Cornwall Premier league for many years I have to say that the FA have a lot to answers for. The gulf between many teams competing in this new league is an apsolute joke!!!!! The old league with the Devon teams where more competitive with the odd big scores during the season. I was at the the game at Poltair with St Austell beating St Dennis 10 Nil. Are the FA trying to kill off grass routes football. Do the fans want to see these one sided games. Will the support whittle away if these games are so one sided. We lost 2 great teams Millbrook and Torpoint to Devon. If the FA read this they are Cornish teams ah but they can compete in the Cornwall senior cup. So getting on to the promotion this year for the winner of the league if Helston or Mousehole win, how the hell can the local boys travel during midweek fixtures with work commitments and it's the same for the Western teams coming down here. It will put a massive strain on financing this. Maybe in the next 5 years with 5 teams being promoted from Devon and Cornwall the Western league might be more achievable but will it be to late if the early teams promoted are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 But there are now 3 Devon teams in the western league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 And if the likes of Bodmin & St Austell had taken the promotions when available they wouldn’t have been at Step 6 to dish out these hammerings. Die Hard and Dewnens Henhwedhel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Grose Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, baldy said: And if the likes of Bodmin & St Austell had taken the promotions when available they wouldn’t have been at Step 6 to dish out these hammerings. Quite right.They'd now be bankrupt and finished !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The unknown Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 No St Austell couldn't afford promotion at the time. The fans were given a list of the distances in miles for the Western teams and Buckland was the closest at the time. 80% where in and around the Bristol area. Logistically this was not an option at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 There was also talk of a possible Step 5 with the eastern boundary around Taunton. I think the clubs voted against that as well. So, just what would be acceptable to these clubs, if anything? Anyway, choices regarding promotions are going to very limited in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Grose Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Subsidised travel by the FA ? TheolderIgetthebetterIwas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Prynne Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The unknown said: Having been an avid supporter of the Cornwall Premier league for many years I have to say that the FA have a lot to answers for. The gulf between many teams competing in this new league is an apsolute joke!!!!! The old league with the Devon teams where more competitive with the odd big scores during the season. I was at the the game at Poltair with St Austell beating St Dennis 10 Nil. Are the FA trying to kill off grass routes football. Do the fans want to see these one sided games. Will the support whittle away if these games are so one sided. We lost 2 great teams Millbrook and Torpoint to Devon. If the FA read this they are Cornish teams ah but they can compete in the Cornwall senior cup. So getting on to the promotion this year for the winner of the league if Helston or Mousehole win, how the hell can the local boys travel during midweek fixtures with work commitments and it's the same for the Western teams coming down here. It will put a massive strain on financing this. Maybe in the next 5 years with 5 teams being promoted from Devon and Cornwall the Western league might be more achievable but will it be to late if the early teams promoted are struggling. Needless to say tuesday night was one sided but only a couple weeks back Launceston beat St Austell then last week Launceston get beaten at home by St Dennis & then this result.St Pirans league should never of been a starter just had East Cornwall & Combo as feeder leagues with a play off system for promotion . unitedrhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloresow Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Monsoon said: Subsidised travel by the FA ? This is not as laughable as people appear to find it. Guernsey & Jersey have both entered as clubs into the English Pyramid via subsidy in recent years, as did their respective Rugby Football XVs before them. An organisation has been formed in the Isle of Man to do the same thing as the other islands, which was accepted into English Affiliation on Tuesday night. The new club is imaginatively to be named "FC Isle of Man". Guernsey, Jersey & the Isle of Man each compete in the County FA championships - Kernow does not; Adult males since 2009 & females since 2010. Each of those islands also compete in the Island Games Association's championship - Kernow obviously not, whilst Gibraltar has. Each of those islands now has a representative 'Football Club' in the English Pyramid - Kernow does not, whilst the FA refuses subsidies for real FCs. Parishes of Jersey & Ellan Vannin [the IoM] are both so-called 'international' sides who are members of ConIFA, whilst Kernow participates via Company No. 11637896 Cornish football is being left out and, frankly, to the detriment of Cornish foot-ballers. Edited October 10, 2019 by Paloresow link to made-up-FC : www.fcisleofman.im/blog/fc-isle-of-man-has-officially-been-affiliated-to-the-isle-of-man-fa/ Marcus Grose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilver Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Monsoon said: Quite right.They'd now be bankrupt and finished !! But back in the day when they used to win the league they were happy to chuck large wads of cash to players, then turn around and say they can’t afford to take promotion! bodmin still paying ringers now, what’s the point, they are never going to progress up the pyramid Dewnens Henhwedhel, Glen Patterson and silly billy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloresow Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 They're not 'ringers' - a Ringer is someone playing under a false identity, usually that of a registered participant. They're shift-workers, contracted in to do a specific task. The former is always an ineligible player and illegitimate, the latter only if the player's Contract Status is falsified. One assumes that "the point" is to win trophies, which is generally the point of kicking a pig's bladder around in an organised fashion. It is quite clear that an arms race has been underway in order to achieve this and bringing in shift-workers is simply one part of the logical/highly predictable conclusion of the story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilver Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Paloresow said: They're not 'ringers' - a Ringer is someone playing under a false identity, usually that of a registered participant. They're shift-workers, contracted in to do a specific task. The former is always an ineligible player and illegitimate, the latter only if the player's Contract Status is falsified. One assumes that "the point" is to win trophies, which is generally the point of kicking a pig's bladder around in an organised fashion. It is quite clear that an arms race has been underway in order to achieve this and bringing in shift-workers is simply one part of the logical/highly predictable conclusion of the story... Safe to say after last night, despite ‘shift workers’ being bought in, bodmin won’t be competing to win the league ‘trophy’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloresow Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Long way to go yet, 'trophies' don't get given out until the season ends. Might agree that it's very much looking likely to end up in Penwith or Kerrier at this point, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Monsoon said: Subsidised travel by the FA ? They tried that in rugby, but when the money ran out teams really struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloresow Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 If you mean Guernsey RFC, yes and no - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey_RFC#Men's_seasons A steady progress for GRFC, but them London leagues ain't a patch on the Cornish [have played in both]. And the Guernsey FC side has been a joke amongst the Isthmian League's 'natural' clubs for a while now. Glass ceiling of Division 8 for them : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey_F.C.#League_results Terrible attendances, island-based players who are way out of their depth and an expensive trip for away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Ive said from the start that the 3 divisions of Prem East and West was working just fine. The West division needed to be a 20 team division. 16 or 15 as it was, was not good. I would have liked some kind of play offs to determine another promotion spot to the prem. For example, both 2nd spots in east and west play off and winners play 3rd bottom of prem. Winner either stays up or theres a promotion. Keeps the leagues competitive longer. Time will tell but at the moment the top 5 or 6 are way ahead of the rest. But that might all change in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shots Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Postman Pat said: But there are now 3 Devon teams in the western league There are 4 Devon teams in WL, Buckland, Exmouth, Parkway, Tavistock. I believe that 2 from Premier East & 2 from Premier West are allowed to go up. So that could be 8 Devon & Cornwall sides next season. There might even be a Devon side relegated from SL. You might lose Devon sides through promotion, but there has never been a better opportunity for West Country sides who want to be promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Sorry I forgot exmouth, but you are right the FA are actually making things better but it will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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