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Keith B

Womens World Cup.

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Well - what did we think ? For me I think that Phil Neville's policy of rotating the team is flawed. Surely you don't change a winning team. Before Neville changed the team around, they were playing great football. He inherited a good footballing side from the previous manager and, then changed the team and the way they play. I've never seen so many passes go astray and, why move players around and into positions that they were clearly not comfortable with. That said, full marks to Fran Kirby for adjusting her game and getting stuck in to her new role. I thought she played her socks off in the 3rd place play off. 

I felt sorry for Karen Karney - I think she would have contributed more if she had been given more time on the field. Interesting though, reading an interview with her in the Daily Telegraph where she said her time was up - her brain still wanted to play, but her body had come to the end. Well done to her, a great career. She would make a good coach I'm sure.

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28 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

Loved it.

No cheating, no diving, no histrionics. 

The premiership should take note...bunch of wussers by comparison.

Mmm . . White dived (in my opinion, once or twice). Agree though, generally they just got on with it. Looked tired and dejected by the end. Too hot to play football really. Well done for getting to the semi final though, despite the manager's changes.

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3 hours ago, Keith B said:

Mmm . . White dived (in my opinion, once or twice). Agree though, generally they just got on with it. Looked tired and dejected by the end. Too hot to play football really. Well done for getting to the semi final though, despite the manager's changes.

Too hot, and the pitches a bit big for girls as well. 

They also do a hell of a lot chasing they don't need to do, they chase every lost cause ball when they could conserve a lot of energy for the important ones.

Learning curve I s'pose. 

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3 hours ago, Goldeneye said:

America were the best team by far - better control of the ball and their passing was far more accurate.

You're right sir, the USA were the  best side overall. I've never seen England give the ball away so much. Frustrating, they have played much better than this in the past.

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The USA could ( and should ) dominate the women's game for the forseeable future. Largest group of players, established pro game and a big and well funded college infrastructure feeding numbers into it.  

The rise of the WSL and European tournaments in football, womens NBA and the establishment of professional cricket  alongside the setting up of global 20 over tournaments, now show that professional women athletes can make a decent living in team sports (believe that the WSL salaries average over £50k per year, and that three players at French club Lyon earn over £500k per year). This will lure more elite athletes into these sports at an early age, raising standards even further. 

Womens football in this country now needs to build upon the interest generated, live matches on terrestrial TV ( and covered properly) are a must.

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22 minutes ago, Way Of The Park said:

The USA could ( and should ) dominate the women's game for the forseeable future. Largest group of players, established pro game and a big and well funded college infrastructure feeding numbers into it.  

The rise of the WSL and European tournaments in football, womens NBA and the establishment of professional cricket  alongside the setting up of global 20 over tournaments, now show that professional women athletes can make a decent living in team sports (believe that the WSL salaries average over £50k per year, and that three players at French club Lyon earn over £500k per year). This will lure more elite athletes into these sports at an early age, raising standards even further. 

Womens football in this country now needs to build upon the interest generated, live matches on terrestrial TV ( and covered properly) are a must.

I certainly hope that your last para comes to fruition WOTP.

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54 minutes ago, Keith B said:

'Blimey  Darren - where did that question come from  ?

From where they are talking about the quality of football and when they are talking about how the ladies game should be more equal with the men’s game

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8 minutes ago, St Darren said:

From where they are talking about the quality of football and when they are talking about how the ladies game should be more equal with the men’s game

I think you have taken it out of context there.

They were on about wages and coverage of the ladies game more than  the ability  to compete against men...they could not compete against men.

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3 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

I think you have taken it out of context there.

They were on about wages and coverage of the ladies game more than  the ability  to compete against men...they could not compete against men.

Correct older (usually are) (not always :)). Physical strength wise the ladies would be muscled off the ball most of the time. Mind you, some of the women would give you a good run for your money ! Joking aside no, the ladies could not compete against men.

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17 minutes ago, Keith B said:

Correct older (usually are) (not always :)). Physical strength wise the ladies would be muscled off the ball most of the time. Mind you, some of the women would give you a good run for your money ! Joking aside no, the ladies could not compete against men.

I agree Keith. Also I would hate playing against women - I just wouldn't be able to go into a full blooded sliding tackle on a woman! Just not in my nature!

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2 hours ago, Goldeneye said:

I agree Keith. Also I would hate playing against women - I just wouldn't be able to go into a full blooded sliding tackle on a woman! Just not in my nature!

Haha, I played twice against ladies teams (5 a side) I  was warned twice for over exuberant tackling. Well. Wasn't going to lose to a ladies team!

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25 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

Haha, I played twice against ladies teams (5 a side) I  was warned twice for over exuberant tackling. Well. Wasn't going to lose to a ladies team!

Older it's a toss up as to which is more dangerous for the ladies - playing football against you or eating your sausage and chips! :yahoo::thumbsup:

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Unfortunately people are actually overlooking just how close England came to lifting the trophy. Indeed if it were not for a couple of dodgy VAR decisions it could have been them lifting the cup. You can argue all you want about team selection and team tactics but the VAR decisions did them in. A couple of millimetres denied England a goal against the USA. Right at the time they could have pushed on. Yes they missed a penalty but that can happen to anyone. Same against Sweden nobody on the Swedish team complained yet someone sitting in front of a monitor decided otherwise. And yes CLEAR AND CONCISE error was not obvious. Yet the front on camera angle they could have used, they didn't. So lets be grateful that they did the country proud.

 

VAR unfortunately is here to stay at the higher level. So if this is the case then do not use linesmen. What is the point if someone sat in front of a TV is going to make the decision anyway. It will become like American Football where the action takes up just 11%. Is this what we want.

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42 minutes ago, ECPL said:

Unfortunately people are actually overlooking just how close England came to lifting the trophy. Indeed if it were not for a couple of dodgy VAR decisions it could have been them lifting the cup. You can argue all you want about team selection and team tactics but the VAR decisions did them in. A couple of millimetres denied England a goal against the USA. Right at the time they could have pushed on. Yes they missed a penalty but that can happen to anyone. Same against Sweden nobody on the Swedish team complained yet someone sitting in front of a monitor decided otherwise. And yes CLEAR AND CONCISE error was not obvious. Yet the front on camera angle they could have used, they didn't. So lets be grateful that they did the country proud.

 

VAR unfortunately is here to stay at the higher level. So if this is the case then do not use linesmen. What is the point if someone sat in front of a TV is going to make the decision anyway. It will become like American Football where the action takes up just 11%. Is this what we want.

Answer to your question ECPL is no we don't want it. However, I expect that the Premier League may yet have the final say. Can you imagine the uproar in that league at having to be mucked about such as we've witnessed in the Womens World Cup !

I expect that the PL managers, players and the FA will have the final say. Too much money at the top of the game and, mega money has mega power . . and, if viewing numbers drop off . . . . !!! 

Let's just keep the goal line technology and forget VAR. Let our referees and line officials do their job. They are very good at it !

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13 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

I think you have taken it out of context there.

They were on about wages and coverage of the ladies game more than  the ability  to compete against men...they could not compete against men.

At some stage quality would overcome physical strength surely. Phil Neville said that Lucy Bronze plays a far higher standard than what he did. Or words to that effect!

 

as for equal pay. Unfortunately at the moment the ladies game doesn’t generate anywhere near what the men’s game does so how could a business justify that. 

However, the ladies game is growing and participation is growing which can knit be a good thing 

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10 hours ago, Tribute said:

Wasn’t it the clubs that voted for VAR in the premier league 🤷🏼‍♂️

I don't think they really knew what it was about. Now we've seen it in practice i'm sure they will be most reluctant to have it. It needs some adjustments to quicken the whole procedure.

9 hours ago, St Darren said:

At some stage quality would overcome physical strength surely. Phil Neville said that Lucy Bronze plays a far higher standard than what he did. Or words to that effect!

 

as for equal pay. Unfortunately at the moment the ladies game doesn’t generate anywhere near what the men’s game does so how could a business justify that. 

However, the ladies game is growing and participation is growing which can knit be a good thing 

During this world cup Darren, I saw Lucy Bronze get knocked about quite badly and was visibly shaken and, these were other women doing so. How much harder would they all get knocked by men !

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