teflon123 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Hearing that AFC St Austell are going to be parting with Manager Lee Hodges and Assistant Chris Todd after less than 3 weeks in the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Obviously money promised for players not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, sportsman10 said: Obviously money promised for players not there. What makes you suggest this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Why would you leave a job after 3 weeks in Pre season when getting your squad built is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballlover442 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Emergency meeting at the club tonight Lee Hodges and Chris Todd have left AFC St Austell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Everyone that has no idea, saying the players that are leaving is due to chasing the money etc... now the management team has gone before a ball has been kicked.. I think there are a few problems behind the scene that’s caused this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 51 minutes ago, sportsman10 said: Why would you leave a job after 3 weeks in Pre season when getting your squad built is critical. Their departure doesn’t necessarily have to be because lack of promised money. Perhaps they weren’t able to get any players? Did they try? Did they expect the club to deal with getting players? Lots of reasons other than any suggested lack of funds from the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Lee hodges wont want to go into a season without a team that can challenge for the title. Maybe he was lead to believe the players that have gone were staying. Zac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon123 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Don’t think that the new Management Team had a great knowledge of the local circuit and there seems to have been a mix up in communication between them and the club as to who was going to be doing what. The extraordinary amount of money that was believed to have being spent on Hodges and Todd was nothing short of ridiculous and club officials need to look at themselves. Speaking to a few players who have departed, nobody was spoken to by either the new Management or the club. Early indications are that the majority of last years successful reserves side will be stepping up with the managers included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky170267 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Their departure doesn’t necessarily have to be because lack of promised money. Perhaps they weren’t able to get any players? Did they try? Did they expect the club to deal with getting players? Lots of reasons other than any suggested lack of funds from the club! They were told that the majority of players will be staying Shambles !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin richards Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, rocky170267 said: They were told that the majority of players will be staying Shambles !! Since when has a manager been able to trust anything a player says. 🤣😂🤣 SPB and Dave Deacon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, rocky170267 said: They were told that the majority of players will be staying Shambles !! All the more reason for the managers to have been in early and direct contact with the players to make sure that was the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky170267 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: All the more reason for the managers to have been in early and direct contact with the players to make sure that was the case! The fact that Eddie and Goldsworthy were leaving was widely known throughout the club about three weeks before the season even ended ! The new management should have been in place before the season ended which would’ve been an ideal time to look at the talent on show !! 20 minutes ago, kevin richards said: Since when has a manager been able to trust anything a player says. 🤣😂🤣 The players were never asked, the board told the new management at interview stage that most of the players will be staying. Quite a few of them had already decided to leave way before the end of the season. Anyway hopefully they can get it all sorted out down there because as I’ve said before the fans deserve better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, rocky170267 said: The fact that Eddie and Goldsworthy were leaving was widely known throughout the club about three weeks before the season even ended ! Not entirely true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky170267 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Footballlover442 said: Emergency meeting at the club tonight Lee Hodges and Chris Todd have left AFC St Austell It’s probably a bit late now but I would suggest they ask all remaining players to attend 5 minutes ago, Blues10 said: Not entirely true Oh so I imagined being told that then Glen Patterson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, rocky170267 said: Oh so I imagined being told that then Ahh told by someone who was told by someone else who was told by someone else I assume? davegrose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, Blues10 said: Ahh told by someone who was told by someone else who was told by someone else I assume? When did you decide Blues 10? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 I think Lee whetts would do a good job there good local knowledge of cor ish football I can see him being back at st Austell in near future just the guy to give young talent a go and wont need a budget to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, cornishlegend said: I think Lee whetts would do a good job there good local knowledge of cor ish football I can see him being back at st Austell in near future just the guy to give young talent a go and wont need a budget to do it. No he uses Shaun Germans funds Bythesea123, Foul Throw 3 and Jimmer06 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish leg end Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, davegrose said: No he uses Shaun Germans funds Oh wasnt aware of that. Funds in duchy prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, cornishlegend said: Oh wasnt aware of that. Funds in duchy prem? 💯 mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon123 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Liam Eddy and Mark Goldsworthy was a done deal months before irrelevant of what they say. Can’t blame them really, home club and abundance of money to go with it. Slateford and Brokenshire (both St Austell through and through apparently) going for the money pure and simple. Calver and Tinsley stepping up a league so cant blame them for that. A lot of parties are to blame for this situation and it’s been coming for a while, started a few seasons ago with poor managerial appointments and since Lafferty left, 4 or 5 managers have come and gone!!! All clubs however go through this cycle and will continue to happen for many many years to come. A big name isn’t needed, maybe someone with past club connections, someone with local knowledge and re-group and build from there. The usual suspects will be named like Lafferty, Hooper, Nancarrow, Chapman etc but someone like Martin Giles would be a good shout. Knows the club and probably has in-finished business down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 To be honest unless lee hodges has personally had phone calls with every player and got assurances they were committed to playing then maybe this what made his mind up. There not a lot of top quality players left to fill the void by the ones that gone Helston and parkway it obviously dawned on him that he doesn’t want to risk his managerial record on a basement battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballlover442 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, teflon123 said: Liam Eddy and Mark Goldsworthy was a done deal months before irrelevant of what they say. Can’t blame them really, home club and abundance of money to go with it. Slateford and Brokenshire (both St Austell through and through apparently) going for the money pure and simple. Calver and Tinsley stepping up a league so cant blame them for that. A lot of parties are to blame for this situation and it’s been coming for a while, started a few seasons ago with poor managerial appointments and since Lafferty left, 4 or 5 managers have come and gone!!! All clubs however go through this cycle and will continue to happen for many many years to come. A big name isn’t needed, maybe someone with past club connections, someone with local knowledge and re-group and build from there. The usual suspects will be named like Lafferty, Hooper, Nancarrow, Chapman etc but someone like Martin Giles would be a good shout. Knows the club and probably has in-finished business down there. Martin Giles in the dug out? Dear god no😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Bloody lash up ! Surely the 1st thing a incoming manager does is contact the existing players , the ones he wants to keep , and tries to sell his vision of what he and the club want . Players I spoke to reckon they have had no contact . Sounds like he wanted to take over a ready made team and get paid for it . Personally think his reputation has taken a knock over this fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Press Statement on Twitter from the club:- “Following lengthy discussions and by Mutual Consent the club have parted company with our Management Team of Lee Hodges and Chris Todd for the coming season. Lee and Chris were appointed to come in and work with and strengthen our squad with the aim of achieving promotion to the Western League. With the goalposts now moved it was felt to be in the best interests of both parties to move on. We would like to thank both Lee and Chris for their efforts and as a club we are sorry that more of the squad didn't buy into the project and long term goals of the club. As a club we are committed to building a sustainable future and will continue on that road. An announcement on the replacements will be made very soon.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 So they were promised to come and work with the current squad and the aim was to add a few with aim of promotion sound like an utter disaster. Either the chairman sold a lie or the players have led the club on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 From Chris Todd (again from Twitter):- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon123 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Bit of both I’d imagine. Again sounds like a lot of parties are in the wrong. Surely players though would be attracted to playing under a Manager who has played at the highest level and would Improve as players themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul pearce Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, teflon123 said: Bit of both I’d imagine. Again sounds like a lot of parties are in the wrong. Surely players though would be attracted to playing under a Manager who has played at the highest level and would Improve as players themselves. Suppose they got that and money at Helston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 What I don’t get is they took the job on the promise that every player would re sign. Well unless they had signed a contract that just ridiculous to assume that I’m this day and age . The chairman and players are to blame here Most managers come in and bring their own players in but sounds like hodges took the job purely to get the current team promoted.i don’t blame them for stepping away tough to build a completely new team and get anywhere near the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanks Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Embarrassing Devils@Dusk and Billy Davies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Brings back memories of Brian Clough's 44 days at Leeds Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 I think they would of stayed but when Massey is ruining Cornish football paying a striker £4500 signing on fee (which a mates that knows his dad has told me) And stupid match fee. Plus what the rest are on you’re not going to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTforever Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Tribute said: Bloody lash up ! Surely the 1st thing a incoming manager does is contact the existing players , the ones he wants to keep , and tries to sell his vision of what he and the club want . Players I spoke to reckon they have had no contact . Sounds like he wanted to take over a ready made team and get paid for it . Personally think his reputation has taken a knock over this fiasco. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, sportsman10 said: The chairman and players are to blame here You’ve got to add Hodges and Todd to that as well surely for being so naive! 1 minute ago, Victor said: I think they would of stayed but when Massey is ruining Cornish football paying a striker £4500 signing on fee (which a mates that knows his dad has told me) And stupid match fee. Plus what the rest are on you’re not going to stay Got to give the guy credit however for turning it down last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave Deacon said: You’ve got to add Hodges and Todd to that as well surely for being so naive! Can’t blame the players if there offered stupid money in the later stages of there career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Ouch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haveyouheard Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 If they were decent managers they would of stayed and taken up the challenge to recruit and strengthen the team but looks like they can't be bothered to put in a little graft I guess Zac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm reading this and just laughing at it all. Quiting before starting, £4.5K signing on fees...what next for the backwater that is Cornish football -agents...lmao 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Haveyouheard said: If they were decent managers they would of stayed and taken up the challenge to recruit and strengthen the team but looks like they can't be bothered to put in a little graft I guess And sign who with the budget they have ? All the decent players in Cornwall have gone elsewhere , They have taken the job with the criteria of being promoted . Not build a new team or just stay in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Sounds like they wanted an easy ride and couldn't 'gamble' on having their egos hit. Extremely naive from the manager and assistant, which is shocking considering their experience. The unwillingness to even attempt signing some new players is of course a decision they have the right to make but it certainly doesn't gain them any respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 What the hell is happening at a fine club like St Austell it seems a right mess all the players have left now the management has gone ,they want to do all they can to get Phil Lafferty back there he will get the club back on track.They are on about putting the reserves into the 1st team these are just young lads and need to be brought on gradually . I wish St Austell all the best and can sort out this mess they are in . Keith B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, 100%cornish said: What the hell is happening at a fine club like St Austell it seems a right mess all the players have left now the management has gone ,they want to do all they can to get Phil Lafferty back there he will get the club back on track.They are on about putting the reserves into the 1st team these are just young lads and need to be brought on gradually . I wish St Austell all the best and can sort out this mess they are in . Best wishes indeed. What's Phil Lafferty doing now - is he back in management ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Via their Twitter account this morning:- "*** Club Announcement *** We can confirm that Chris Knight has agreed to take on the role of first team manager for the coming season. He will be asssited by Phil Dingle and James Powell . We thank them for their support and we look forward to the season ahead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballlover442 Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Nanks said: Chris knight appointed manger for the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haveyouheard Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Zac said: Sounds like they wanted an easy ride and couldn't 'gamble' on having their egos hit. Extremely naive from the manager and assistant, which is shocking considering their experience. The unwillingness to even attempt signing some new players is of course a decision they have the right to make but it certainly doesn't gain them any respect. Exactly the same point I mentioned, but I guess these days you don't need to have good management skills, just a high budget and try lure players with an extra 10er a game 😂 Way Of The Park and Brianmooreshead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: From Chris Todd (again from Twitter):- Seems to be a very unprofessional approach to accepting the management of a club without confirming the current status of the playing staff with the players themselves, and as regards to players signing contracts is that really the norm nowadays, is the Peninsula Premier league now deemed to be a professional league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 iand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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