Kernow to take part in Atlantic Heritage Cup (ConIFA World Cup Qualifier) in June

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Hosted by Yorkshire, featuring the hosts, Kernow, Ellan Vannin and Parishes of Jersey. Winners will get automatic qualification to the 2020 ConIFA World Football Cup in Somaliland, although other chances may come if plenty of friendlies are played a qualifying points rack up with every game played that's recognised by ConIFA.

[Bruegel the Elder]

Well, this bandwagon is certainly picking up some speed!

Methinks ‘twill take some considerable restructuring betwixt now and June if we’re going to be serious contenders.

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3 hours ago, Bruegel the Elder said:

Well, this bandwagon is certainly picking up some speed!

Methinks ‘twill take some considerable restructuring betwixt now and June if we’re going to be serious contenders.

If the games get more regular I'm gonna wonder if a Kernow National Team subforum may be in order.

[Ian Pethick]

This is great news, hopefully the people of Cornwall will get behind this. Playing the fixture in June should mean that there will be a greater availability of players, would be interesting to hear if Cornish born players in the Western League, Conference South and beyond have been reached out to.

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Couple of fixtures in May:

13/05: vs St Dennis AFC, @Priory Park, Bodmin. 19:30 KO

25/05: vs Barawa (2018 ConIFA World Cup hosts), @Treyew Road, Truro. 15:00 KO

31/05 - 02/06: Atlantic Heritage Cup vs Yorkshire, Ellan Vannin and Parishes of Jersey @Yorkshire. Venues and times TBA.

[Mick Throbsaw]

Any squads announced for these?

[Fanfare]

1 hour ago, Mick Throbsaw said:

Any squads announced for these?

Yes

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

1 hour ago, Fanfare said:

Yes

And?

[Dave Deacon]

On 28/04/2019 at 00:12, inflikted said:

25/05: vs Barawa (2018 ConIFA World Cup hosts), @Treyew Road, Truro. 15:00 KO

Presumably the showers are going to be sorted before this game takes place?

[Tommy Matthews]

Can I please ask who is insuring the players in the event of an injury? If you play for Cornwall the Cornwall FA are insured for players injuries. Presumably the CCFA aren’t involved so how does it work? 

If this has already been discussed I apologise in advance. 

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Squad for tomorrow's game against St Dennis. More readable version below with all the info I could find (therefore there's a bunch of info gaps and some of it may be wrong):

No.	Pos.	Player	Date of birth (age)	Caps	Goals	Club
	GK	Jason Chapman		1	0	AFC St Austell
	GK	Barrie Wyatt		1	0	Helston Athletic
	DF	Tom Chambers (captain)		1	0	AFC St Austell
	DF	Tom Whipp		1	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Ed Timmons		0	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Jake Ash		0	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Dylan Peel		0	0	Liskeard Athletic
	DF	Jack Podmore		0	0	Liskeard Athletic
	DF	James Ward		0	0	Falmouth Town
	MF	Olly Brokenshire		1	1	AFC St Austell
	MF	Tom Harris		1	0	Bodmin Town
	MF	Neil Slateford		1	0	AFC St Austell
	MF	Max Gilbert		1	0	Bodmin Town
	FW	Liam Eddy		1	1	AFC St Austell
	FW	James Lorenz		1	0	Liskeard Athletic
	FW	Mark Goldsworthy		1	0	AFC St Austell
	FW	Jordan Annear	20 August 1996 (age 22)	0	0	Plymouth Parkway

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On 08/05/2019 at 15:09, Dave Deacon said:

Presumably the showers are going to be sorted before this game takes place?

That game's been moved, will be played in Bodmin instead. Also worth sharing this, it's the fixture list for the Atlantic Heritage Cup:

 

[Ian Pethick]

15 hours ago, inflikted said:

Squad for tomorrow's game against St Dennis. More readable version below with all the info I could find (therefore there's a bunch of info gaps and some of it may be wrong):

No.	Pos.	Player	Date of birth (age)	Caps	Goals	Club
	GK	Jason Chapman		1	0	AFC St Austell
	GK	Barrie Wyatt		1	0	Helston Athletic
	DF	Tom Chambers (captain)		1	0	AFC St Austell
	DF	Tom Whipp		1	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Ed Timmons		0	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Jake Ash		0	0	Bodmin Town
	DF	Dylan Peel		0	0	Liskeard Athletic
	DF	Jack Podmore		0	0	Liskeard Athletic
	DF	James Ward		0	0	Falmouth Town
	MF	Olly Brokenshire		1	1	AFC St Austell
	MF	Tom Harris		1	0	Bodmin Town
	MF	Neil Slateford		1	0	AFC St Austell
	MF	Max Gilbert		1	0	Bodmin Town
	FW	Liam Eddy		1	1	AFC St Austell
	FW	James Lorenz		1	0	Liskeard Athletic
	FW	Mark Goldsworthy		1	0	AFC St Austell
	FW	Jordan Annear	20 August 1996 (age 22)	0	0	Plymouth Parkway

Got a very Bodmin/St Austell look to the squad. And, with the exception of Jordan Annear, nobody from outside the Peninsula League. Were players from the Western League,Southern League or Conference South approached?

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

Of course not...old mates club.

[B Manning]

Who are the officials ?.

 

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Not sure who's reffing tonight but it will be live streamed:

This guy is the manager of Kernow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Wright_(footballer,_born_1968)

2 hours ago, Way Of The Park said:

Got a very Bodmin/St Austell look to the squad. And, with the exception of Jordan Annear, nobody from outside the Peninsula League. Were players from the Western League,Southern League or Conference South approached?

May just be the players that were available as the season just ended. I think I heard they were looking at higher level players for the Atlantic Heritage Cup though, as it's a World Cup qualifier. Jersey are trying to get Peter Vincenti of Macclesfield to accept a callup and Yorkshire had players from FC United in their latest squad so Kernow had better be looking for a higher standard.

[Mick Throbsaw]

Seems again like a poor side.  Made up of players from 5th and 9th best in the SWPL this season and a handful from the SWPL West Division.  Without knowing the ins and outs of birth locations for all the players in Cornwall and whether or not they have been asked, but surely Falmouth and Saltash players should be involved in this along with any from Tavistock that are eligible given they have been the better sides this year?  Arguably the worst bodmin side for years still manages to provide 5 players! Again, I stress this without knowing who has been asked and who is eligible, however, it seems very much a mates of mates team rather than the best that Kernow has to offer!  Bit of a mockery really. Be interested to see the list of eligible players in SWPL and above......

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Well I just checked for news from Jersey and their preliminary squad is out. No Vincenti which is good news for the other teams:

Caps and goals correct as of 21 October 2018 after the game against  Yorkshire.

No.	Pos.	Player	Date of birth (age)	Caps	Goals	Club
	GK	Euan van der Vliet	11 August 1996 (age 22)	1	0	St. Paul's
	GK	Daniel Birrell		0	0	Jersey Wanderers
	DF	Harry Curtis		1	0	St. Paul's
	DF	Jack Cannon	17 February 1987 (age 32)	1	0	St. Paul's
	DF	Luke Campbell	4 May 1989 (age 30)	1	0	St. Peter
	DF	Michael Weir	18 February 1991 (age 28)	1	0	St. Paul's
	MF	Jack Boyle (captain)	9 July 1990 (age 28)	1	1	St. Paul's
	MF	Luke Watson		1	0	St. Paul's
	MF	Zeljko Martinovic		1	0	St. Paul's
	MF	Jay Giles		0	0	St. Paul's
	MF	Tom Harris		0	0	St. Clement
	FW	Adam Trotter		1	0	St. Paul's
	FW	Karl Hinds		1	0	Trinity
	FW	Kieran Lester		0	0	St. Paul's
	FW	Jake Prince		0	0	St. Paul's
	FW	Sol Solomon		0	0	St. Peter

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Kernow will be playing in their new home kit for the first time

Starting XI is as follows:

And as was said earlier, you can watch coverage here: https://mycujoo.tv/video/kernow-fa

[Whistle Blower]

Two keepers listed in the squad, and the one who starts wasn't even on the list.

Cornish anthem didn't play, no team lineups or officials read out.

Is this really the best Kernow can muster? Guess I won't bother with the trip to Yorkshire.

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Currently 1-0, a goal in the 4th minute by Goldsworthy.

4 minutes ago, Whistle Blower said:

Two keepers listed in the squad, and the one who starts wasn't even on the list.

Cornish anthem didn't play, no team lineups or officials read out.

Is this really the best Kernow can muster? Guess I won't bother with the trip to Yorkshire.

I do think they need to get some advice from someone who knows how to run CONIFA football events. Maybe someone from the Yorks IFA, Manx IFA or even Panjab or Barawa (maybe even Surrey, who aren't even affiliated to CONIFA as they don't meet the requirements). Those guys have a lot more experience with arranging this and can offer some advice to the Kernow FA.

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HT Kernow 1-0 St Dennis

'4 Goldsworthy

There was a first half substitution but I'm not sure who it was who came on as I have no clue as to squad numbers.

It's worth mentioning that Sardinia withdrew from the 2019 European Championship in Artsakh, and Kernow were originally down as the reserve team. But because the Atlantic Heritage Cup is happening as the Euros start, I think it's unlikely that Kernow will take that place.

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FT: Kernow 5-0 St Dennis

'4 Goldsworthy
'70 Lorenz
'80 Annear
'88 Annear
'90 Goldsworthy

Comprehensive win in the end.

[Whistle Blower]

Very underwhelming night. Convincing win in the end but there was no urgency or real drive.

If Darren Wright is the manager, who was the Darren Gilbert lookalike making the substitutions.

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18 minutes ago, Whistle Blower said:

Very underwhelming night. Convincing win in the end but there was no urgency or real drive.

If Darren Wright is the manager, who was the Darren Gilbert lookalike making the substitutions.

I dunno, officially it's Wright but Gilbert is also part of the coaching staff.

EDIT: OK in the friendlies, it's been said by the KFA that Gilbert and Phil Lafferty are co-managers, with Wright and Andrew Graham as coaches.

[Whistle Blower]

Who were the match officials tonight?

[LeeRicks9]

Comprehensive win I’d say is to strong. We played ok and had our chances just lack of quality in front of goal. Fitness made the difference in the end last 15 mins, but we now learn going into a new league so only good things I guess. Nice to play against good players to see your level. We will learn though 🙂 💙

Braggy picked the match officials I guess 😂. Lovely chaps but not good enough I’m afraid. That’s not a slate but sometimes it feels like pull in who we can 🤷🏼‍♂️

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I'm afraid I have no idea. I'm expecting Raymond Mashamba to be an official at the AHC though due to his CONIFA links (having been a ref at the 2018 World Cup) and he was a linesman in Yorkshire's 6-2 win over Somaliland. He originally came over from Zimbabwe as one of their emerging refs but claimed asylum after being outed as a homosexual in a Zimbabwean newspaper and having his life threatened. By all accounts he's a good ref too. First in the world to issue a green card.

Regarding how I think the AHC will go, it's a tough one to call. Yorkshire have looked very good lately and are hosting. But they have already lost to Parishes of Jersey who have a pretty strong domestic league - however their players may be fatigued from playing a tournament this month, then the AHC, then the Inter Games Tournament which is a replacement for the Island Games. Ellan Vannin have a similar problem but aren't playing in the May tournament. They are former World Football Cup finalists so can't be under-estimated. If they can get Seamus Sharkey from Glenavon involved, as well as Nashville SC midfielder Liam Doyle involved then they'll have a pro presence which will aid them a lot. If Kernow can get players from higher up the pyramid involved then they could be a dark horse otherwise they are the weakest of the 4 sides.

[Ian Pethick]

On ‎13‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 16:21, Mick Throbsaw said:

Seems again like a poor side.  Made up of players from 5th and 9th best in the SWPL this season and a handful from the SWPL West Division.  Without knowing the ins and outs of birth locations for all the players in Cornwall and whether or not they have been asked, but surely Falmouth and Saltash players should be involved in this along with any from Tavistock that are eligible given they have been the better sides this year?  Arguably the worst bodmin side for years still manages to provide 5 players! Again, I stress this without knowing who has been asked and who is eligible, however, it seems very much a mates of mates team rather than the best that Kernow has to offer!  Bit of a mockery really. Be interested to see the list of eligible players in SWPL and above......

Off the top of my head (Conference South/Western League)

Billy Palfrey (Truro)

Ryan Lane (Parkway)

Jamie Lowry (Parkway)

Ryan Dickson (Torquay)

Nick Hurst (ex Truro, now unattached I believe)

 

There is also a selection from the Premier League, Scottish Premier and Football League;

 

Max Smallcombe (Exeter)

Jack Stephens (Southampton)

Craig Alcock (Yeovil)

Isaac Vassell (Birmingham)

Christian Walton (Brighton)

Cody Cooke (St Mirren)

Scott Bennett (Newport)

No idea if these guys have been approached, or what the long term strategy is regarding selection. Would be disappointing though if the vision is to keep it as a Cornish based team.

 

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4 hours ago, Way Of The Park said:

Off the top of my head (Conference South/Western League)

Billy Palfrey (Truro)

Ryan Lane (Parkway)

Jamie Lowry (Parkway)

Ryan Dickson (Torquay)

Nick Hurst (ex Truro, now unattached I believe)

 

There is also a selection from the Premier League, Scottish Premier and Football League;

 

Max Smallcombe (Exeter)

Jack Stephens (Southampton)

Craig Alcock (Yeovil)

Isaac Vassell (Birmingham)

Christian Walton (Brighton)

Cody Cooke (St Mirren)

Scott Bennett (Newport)

No idea if these guys have been approached, or what the long term strategy is regarding selection. Would be disappointing though if the vision is to keep it as a Cornish based team.

 

Getting the pros would require a lot more sponsorship so they could afford them. The highest Yorkshire have managed is National League North but they've needed over a year of gathering support for that.

[GRTourist]

Jordan Copp - Truro City (born in Saltash)

As far as I can remember there were a couple of full time pros in the World Cup, including some from the MLS, so there are clearly no rules against it, but in terms of insuring them and persuading clubs to release them, I can't see Kernow managing to secure any.

Truro City / Taunton Town will probably be the most high profile clubs that the side could be built from.

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3 hours ago, GRTourist said:

Jordan Copp - Truro City (born in Saltash)

As far as I can remember there were a couple of full time pros in the World Cup, including some from the MLS, so there are clearly no rules against it, but in terms of insuring them and persuading clubs to release them, I can't see Kernow managing to secure any.

Truro City / Taunton Town will probably be the most high profile clubs that the side could be built from.

Yeah Barawa had Crawley's Aryan Tajbakhsh. Abkhazia had several pros from the Russian second tier (and one defender who played against Real Madrid in the Champions League). Turkey had Billy Mehmet, and Cascadia had James Riley (former MLS player) and Calum Ferguson (at the time playing for Elgin City but now in the new professional Canadian Premier League).

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Pretty poor show from the KFA and Manx IFA to pull out less than 2 weeks before the tournament is meant to kick off, after people already bought tickets and stadiums booked at great expense to the Yorkshire International FA.

[Dave Deacon]

Disappointing as the Winners of the tournament to get automatic qualification to the 2020 ConIFA World Football Cup in Somaliland.

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There is a suggestion that, as designated reserve team, they may have been offered Sardinia's spot in Artsakh for this summer's Euros. But that's not been confirmed by anyone. Personally I think that's the only justifiable reason for pulling out of the AHC.

[Whistle Blower]

So Kernow have pulled out? Glad I didn't go ahead and book for the trip.

I guess people were right all along that this would never work.

Nearly seven days on, who were the match officials against St Dennis?

[Mick Throbsaw]

Why have Kernow pulled out? 

[Dave Deacon]

Financial and another team pulling out

[Mick Throbsaw]

Financial?  So this team has been formed and there isn't a strategy or structure in place financially to enable it to compete.  Just as laughable as the players selected.