cornishteddyboy Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I see today Mark Hughes has been sacked by Southampton. How many out there, think like me, why do clubs employ people like him? There seems to be a huge group of ex-players, ex-managers, who are employed for a few months, a year at most, then are sacked. The same clubs time and again seem be the culprits and none of these blokes are any good. Neil Warnock, Hughes, Sam Allardyce, the list goes on. They have one semi-good season and base a whole career on that whilst tainting every other clubs they run. Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Can't agree with Warnock being on your list! Took Notts County to the 1st division with 2 successive promotions. Got Huddersfield promoted. Got Plymouth promoted to division 2. Took Sheffield United to the semi-finals of the F. A. Cup and the League Cup. Won the Championship and Promotion to the Premiership with QPR. Got Cardiff promoted to the Premiership earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornishWall Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Goldeneye said: Can't agree with Warnock being on your list! Took Notts County to the 1st division with 2 successive promotions. Got Huddersfield promoted. Got Plymouth promoted to division 2. Took Sheffield United to the semi-finals of the F. A. Cup and the League Cup. Won the Championship and Promotion to the Premiership with QPR. Got Cardiff promoted to the Premiership earlier this year. Dont think Allardyce has a bad cv either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think it's purely down to names. Chairman would rather give the job to someone who has done it time and again, then risk someone that no one has heard of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 In a lot of cases the diehard fan could do the same job, as well, or better than some of them. How many times have we all choked at their team selection, or substitution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Don't focus on the names I gave but there seems to be a group of "managers" that do the rounds going from one club to another to another and achieve very little at great emotional and financial cost. And these clubs seem to be the same ones time and again that seem to get suckered into employing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Two Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, cornishteddyboy said: Don't focus on the names I gave but there seems to be a group of "managers" that do the rounds going from one club to another and achieve very little at great emotional and financial cost. And these clubs seem to be the same ones time and again that seem to get suckered into employing them. When, or if ever, there is a group of managers available that can guarantee instant success, then the merrygoround will stop. Of course no such people exist, but maybe their employers should have a little more patience. Those of us with a long memory, may remember a certain Alex Ferguson who was given 6 weeks to improve or look for another job. Popular opinion is that when Mark Robins scored a winning cup goal, it saved Fergusons career at Manchester United. How many tens of millions of pounds would that have cost United, and how many trophies. The Leicester manager did the unthinkable and won the premier league with his assembled team, and was rewarded with the sack, presumably because he couldn't repeat it the following season. Too many people want immediate success on a plate, it doesn't happen in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Abbo Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Think that might be the end of mark hughes in the premier league for a while... will have to work his way back up via the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Keith B said: True but then - no one had heard of Wenger when it was announced Arsenal had signed him. Gone are those days my good man, clubs won't risk a non established name these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggy78 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, gingerninja said: Gone are those days my good man, clubs won't risk a non established name these days Norwich - Daniel Farke, Derby - Frank Lampard Rangers - Steve Gerrard Southampton - Ralph Hasenhuttl Hull/Watford - Marco Silva Aston Villa - Remi Garde, Tim Sherwood Valencia - Gary Neville Varying degrees of success, admittedly. I'm sure there are more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerninja Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, peggy78 said: Norwich - Daniel Farke, Derby - Frank Lampard Rangers - Steve Gerrard Southampton - Ralph Hasenhuttl Hull/Watford - Marco Silva Aston Villa - Remi Garde, Tim Sherwood Valencia - Gary Neville Varying degrees of success, admittedly. I'm sure there are more. Farke was Klopp's youth manager, not so much an established name but was heard of, Lampard and Gerrard wouldn't have got their jobs had it not been for world class playing careers, Ralph Hasenhuttl has done a fantastic job at Leipzig and was always going to get a decent job, Silva was unknown to Hull, but hardly an unknown for Watford and Everton, Remi Garde was a top manager in France, and Sherwood already had a pretty decent time at Spurs under his belt. Gary Neville got the job purely because he's best mates with the owner 1 hour ago, Keith B said: But Arsenal did sir - and Southampton ? Arsenal did over 20 years ago, not now. Look above re Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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