Dave Deacon Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 THE WHIRLWIND SPORTS TRELAWNY LEAGUE PREMIER DIVISION Halsetown AFC 7-3 St Buryan Helston Athletic Thirds 5-1 Stithians Illogan RBL Reserves 0-0 Penryn Athletic Reserves Mawnan 4-2 Holman Sports Club St Day Reserves 3-7 Penwith Exiles Troon AFC 3-3 St Agnes Reserves DIVISION ONE Goonhavern Athletic 6-0 RNAS Culdrose Reserves Hayle Reserves 1-2 Mawnan Reserves Newlyn Non-Athletico 5-2 Lanner Probus 5-0 Constantine St Keverne 1-2 Threemilestone Wendron United 3rds 5-0 Newlyn Lions DIVISION TWO Falmouth DC 3-0 Mullion Reserves Frogpool & Cusgarne P-P Four Lanes Gwinear Church Town 6-1 St Day Thirds New Inn Titans FC 9-1 Redruth United Reserves West Cornwall Res 1-2 Illogan RBL Thirds DIVISION THREE Penzance Reserves P-P Troon AFC Reserves Praze 2-1 Perranwell Reserves St Just Reserves 1-6 St Erme Storm FC 3-13 St Agnes Thirds Wendron United 4ths 1-6 Rosudgeon Reserves DIVISION FOUR Chacewater 0-2 Lizard Argyle Reserves Constantine Reserves 2-2 New Inn Titans Reserves Falmouth United 1-3 Goonhavern Athletic Reserves Hayle Thirds P-P Threemilestone Reserves Madron 10-0 Stithians Reserves Marazion 1-4 Tregony FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Both Frogpool games are now off ....no refs . So only looking for another 8 refs ....or clubs to agree a stand in one ! Not what we need or want , games being called off whilst pitches are playable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, zebedee said: Both Frogpool games are now off ....no refs . So only looking for another 8 refs ....or clubs to agree a stand in one ! Not what we need or want , games being called off whilst pitches are playable ? Or maybe someone from the teams who are postponed volunteering to referee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy D Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, zebedee said: Both Frogpool games are now off ....no refs . So only looking for another 8 refs ....or clubs to agree a stand in one ! Not what we need or want , games being called off whilst pitches are playable ? Trying to get player participation up is only a worthwhile idea if they get referee participation up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzybruv Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Nobody has approached Fourlanes to discuss a ref or stand in ref? I’m sure we would be fine to get the game played if a stand in ref was suggested, but as it stands the game has been cancelled without any discussion. I always thought you couldn’t postpone a game if no ref was appointed until 12 noon on the day of the match in case a red became available? Has the rules changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 hours ago, ozzybruv said: Nobody has approached Fourlanes to discuss a ref or stand in ref? I’m sure we would be fine to get the game played if a stand in ref was suggested, but as it stands the game has been cancelled without any discussion. I always thought you couldn’t postpone a game if no ref was appointed until 12 noon on the day of the match in case a red became available? Has the rules changed? It is a league decision on whether to postpone the game before the usual mid-day deadline or not. As it is a vital game at the top of the league, I wanted an appointed official for the match. Both sides have played 6/7 games by the weekend we usually start our campaign so I think we are in a much better position than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungPercy Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 We were happy for a volunteer to ref our game vs St Buryan, aswell as early kick off, but you need both teams to agree. completely understand teams wanting official referees though. saves any hassle from either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referee's enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self-esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referees enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. Well said, Older. My thoughts entirely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangle Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referee's enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. Blimey Older, wish i'd written that. Ain't it funny how the players continually moan at ref's, but can't agree to play without one. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. The life of a referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guv'nor Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referee's enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. When you say (you people) who exactly are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, The Guv'nor said: When you say (you people) who exactly are you referring to? Unfortunately the majority of the football public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referee's enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. And that's exactly what it boils down to. I spoke to a number of referees yesterday to try and get them involved. Referees that were active last season but haven't done a game this season - and what you've said above is exactly what they said to me. They get stuck during the game and then they get stuck online. Instead, two are going to watch games and the other few have other plans. I reffed continuously over the last two seasons and thankfully, I never got hung out to dry on social media. However, I got quite a bit of grief from certain individuals last season when on their games that I actually lost the enjoyment and passion for it. That doesn't happen to often with me however, it got to the point where I wanted to have a rant at players both on the pitch and on social media... That's why I've stopped reffing! I would class myself as a good referee who knows the laws almost verbatim. I would enforce those laws to the best of my ability but that wasn't enough for some. Now I'm back enjoying playing with pretty much no grief at all There will definitely be a shock next season when the Temporary Dismissal system is introduced at step 6 and 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 A few referees have offered a early or a late ko only for one team to not agree to it. If teams ko at 5.30 it is still light enough to get the game finished and plenty of time for drinking after ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Anita said: A few referees have offered a early or a late ko only for one team to not agree to it. If teams ko at 5.30 it is still light enough to get the game finished and plenty of time for drinking after ? There missus's won't let them KO that time.... Lol Modern kids.... Petticoat power.... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy D Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Yeah, this forum has been up & running since I was at school, I'm now in my 30's. I don't think you can blame the forum on the lack of refs, as I think,due to Facebook & mobile phones, less people use the forum now than say 10-15 years ago. I just think participation in the game as a whole has dropped. But when a club is struggling for players they explore every avenue & put so much time & energy into finding players. Wheras do the people at the top have the time & energy to search for refs? We all know qualified refs who don't do anything on Saturdays. 2 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: There missus's won't let them KO that time.... Lol Modern kids.... Petticoat power.... Lol It's different if this is sorted on Monday Tuesday, but why does it always happen in Saturday morning or Friday night? People have plans outside of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, Roy D said: Yeah, this forum has been up & running since I was at school, I'm now in my 30's. I don't think you can blame the forum on the lack of refs, as I think,due to Facebook & mobile phones, less people use the forum now than say 10-15 years ago. I just think participation in the game as a whole has dropped. But when a club is struggling for players they explore every avenue & put so much time & energy into finding players. Wheras do the people at the top have the time & energy to search for refs? We all know qualified refs who don't do anything on Saturdays. It's different if this is sorted on Monday Tuesday, but why does it always happen in Saturday morning or Friday night? People have plans outside of football. Your comments made me think back - this forum started in 2007. Blimey hadn’t really thought it was that long ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy D Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Your comments made me think back - this forum started in 2007. Blimey hadn’t really thought it was that long ago! & Cornish soccer before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted September 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Roy D said: & Cornish soccer before that? There won’t be too many who remember that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Trelawny Div 3 Penzance Reserves v Troon Reserves Postponed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Roy D said: Yeah, this forum has been up & running since I was at school, I'm now in my 30's. I don't think you can blame the forum on the lack of refs, as I think,due to Facebook & mobile phones, less people use the forum now than say 10-15 years ago. I just think participation in the game as a whole has dropped. But when a club is struggling for players they explore every avenue & put so much time & energy into finding players. Wheras do the people at the top have the time & energy to search for refs? We all know qualified refs who don't do anything on Saturdays. It's different if this is sorted on Monday Tuesday, but why does it always happen in Saturday morning or Friday night? People have plans outside of football. They can't have, football is everything..... Innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 5 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The continual moaning and groaning at the referees, during the game, on social media, and on here, including television..... Is taking its toll now. Who the hell would want to be a referee these days? The poor sods can't do nowt right, an earful during the match, and then home to read they were rubbish as well. What do you people think the effect that can have on a persons confidence and self esteem? Contrary to belief, football is not life and death. Let the referee's enjoy the football experience as well, and we may get a few more having a crack at it. Well said Older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon2389 Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Penzance manager offered to ref and Troon turned it down. Shame really when we have good weather at the minute. Wonder what the reasoning is? We heard a lack of players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Does make me laugh when you hear why club's will not play with a volunteer.especially a must win game this early in the season, what happened to playing because you love it and not win at all cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh91 Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 This a post for results. Could you not start a new topic to debate referee availability?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erby ruin Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Div 4 Constantine res 2 New Inn res 2 good battle and draw a fair result special mention to the constantine player who stepped in to ref today .. did a cracking job New Inn Res scorers Dan Barrett Peter Norfolk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just reading on full-time Trelawny Div 4 Madron 10-0 Stithians Reserves Second win for Madron this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Trelawny prem Illogan res 0 Penryn res 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfield Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Marazion vs Tregony marazion went ahead in the first minute Tregony got going slowly but when they did they got in amongst it and gave marazion no time on the ball tregony led at half time and then extended that lead and finished the game 4-1 winners with goals coming from Jake foster, Craig sanders, Jason busby, and Benito Henley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneybarnett10 Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Wendron 4ths 1-6 Rosudgeon reserves. Well refereed by the stand in ref from wendron. He was honest and didn’t put a foot wrong, thanks for standing in and helping out today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golong Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Praze 2 - 1 perranwell (0-1) Ht Div3. game of two halves. Perran take the lead through a corner and limit the home side to few chances in first 45. 2nd half praze start going more direct to their big striker who eventually sets up the equaliser through a free kick headed towards the unmarked defender to make it 1-1. A long ball over the top forces the visiting team keeper to rush off his line who fluffs the clearance leaving the praze striker to finish in a empty net, 2-1. Good luck to the season for both teams - should be there or thereabouts. Golong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brayer10 Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Prem Helston 5-1 Stithians Went 1-0 up good finish Tom Furse. Within 10 minutes helston were 2-1 up. In the 65th minute helston scored two goals in 4 minutes followed by another in the 80th worthy winners We battled hard but fitness showed in the end with a bare 11. Better team on the day won. Played some good football. Well reffed by Jon Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielburt8 Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 St day 3-7 Penwith exiles We kept the momentum going today with a solid win at st day, took us 15 minutes to start playing but didn’t look back after that think we went in at half time at 5.1 and coasted the second half with the final score being 7.3. St day had a couple of lively lads up top who will make life hard for a few defences in our league. Scorers Jordan Taylor 1x Danny Earl 2x Nathan Burt 2x Daniel Burt 2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Wendron United Thirds 5 Newlyn Lions 0 Wendron dominated the game for the majority of the 90 however Newlyn kept going until the end. Both teams got the ball down and played some brilliant football at times. If I'm honest, we could have been into the double figures had it not been for some superb goalkeeping and some quite poor finishing ? I must say a massive thank you on behalf of both teams (and the League) to Premier League assistant Referee Simon Long who gave up a rare Saturday at home due to the international break to help with the shortage in the Trelawny League. It's fantastic that despite being one of the country's top assistants, he still gives back to the grassroot community. Great to have a catch up with him today. He had a very good game and was well received by both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 45 minutes ago, golong said: Praze 2 - 1 perranwell (0-1) Ht Div3. game of two halves. Perran take the lead through a corner and limit the home side to few chances in first 45. 2nd half praze start going more direct to their big striker who eventually sets up the equaliser through a free kick headed towards the unmarked defender to make it 1-1. A long ball over the top forces the visiting team keeper to rush off his line who fluffs the clearance leaving the praze striker to finish in a empty net, 2-1. Good luck to the season for both teams - should be there or thereabouts. Golong Thought a draw would of been a fair result we couldn’t get going first half and perrenwell will always look strong with matt rose up top. Just glad we nicked it in the end after being so unlucky against Penzance in the week where we should of took all 3 points, there keeper had a blinder and there linesman got man of match. Never mind onwards and upwards hopefully get on a bit of a run now and keep ourselves in the mix of the top 4. Thanks to perrenwell for coming back to the pub great sport as always, and good look for the rest of the season ?⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portreathlegend Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Div 2 West Cornwall res - 1 (og Carl Palmer) Illogan 3rds - 2 ( Jordan Richards and Corri Braymar) Illogan defended well and kept West Cornwall well away from goal. Good game for Illogan to win and moving forwards to the next one.... Man of the match for Illogan- Mark Curnow.... as 16 years old this boys name is going to keep coming up.... quality boy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangle Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Division 1: Newlyn NA (3) 5 -vs- 2 (0) Lanner What a different week for NNA this week. For the first time in 53 years, the manager had a full 25 player squad to choose from. Basically, everyone who is signed on for the club this season, turned up. Marvellous. Also nice to arrive pitch-side with about half an hour to go until kick-off, and no sign of the opposition. No cones on the pitch, no club tracksuits, no sign of 3 trainers putting the opposition through their paces. Presumably, Lanner are like one of those old fashioned teams, you know, the ones that genuinely play with mates, play for enjoyment, play for each other, have fun, go out to win, but not at all costs. It is just football on a Saturday afternoon after all. So, the grass had been cut, I had re-pegged the nets as I did not think they were pegged up to scratch, and then started collecting the footballs form the hedges, brambles and so on that had resulted from the final "warm-up" routines, only to be told by a wonderfully communicative referee that he had re-peggeed the nets for us as they were a bit crap. ? So, kick-off, and to be fair, NNA we on it form the off. Some good football, lovely movement, confident possession and finally a goal. A rasper, AP flicking in a bullet header off the underside of the bar from a sharp cross. I think JL got the second, and a third added by TP, a scrappy affair, but they all count. HT: 3-0. Lanner came out fighting, although NNA were 3 up, it was comfortable without being convincing, and two set pieces later, there was one goal in it (their second coming from a direct free-kick, 20 yards out, top corner screamer). It was now a tight game, but gradually NNA found their confidence again, and CM walloped one in from 25 yards, and provided a great assist for JL to bag his second. I don't think Lanner can complain too much about the result, especially the first half display from Newlyn, and I must say that the game was wonderfully refereed, and both teams made that job a lot easier for him, without the continuous moaning of groaning that usually accompanies these matches! Good luck to Lanner for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkted Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Madron won 10 nil today and i reffed it, after consultation with with stithians secretary. The game was played in good spirits throughout and was a joy to be involved in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local league fan Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 Illogan res 0-0 penryn res game abandoned on 70 mins as Ref Anita couldn’t carry on due to injury. Think the result still stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 6 hours ago, mbkted said: Madron won 10 nil today and i reffed it, after consultation with with stithians secretary. The game was played in good spirits throughout and was a joy to be involved in I don't support either club or know you but thank you. I am thinking how long before this becomes the norm in the lowest divisions, qhen due to a lack of referees each game has to find a substitute referee to avoid a fixture pile-up at the end of the season? That or we have two kick-off times on Saturdays allowing some referees, if they want, to officiate at two games at say 10.30 and 2.30, or perhaps failing that, games to be fixtured and played on a Sunday morning/lunch-time. Another choice possible is that clubs who have floodlights play the bulk of their home games mid-week. We could have games fixtured for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights giving the floating supporter the chance to see more games and also make clubs a bit of extra income from t-hut, bar, etc to cover the cost of lights. Another idea is asking these clubs to play on a Friday evening if referees are willing. We need to grab the nettle now before it is too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkted Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think the main problem is the moaning and grumbling refs get thrown at them which is why more people aren't willing to step in and give it a go. Plus the fact that as madron manager I was under even more scrutiny as to whether or not I was favourable to my own team or not. Luckily the game was played excellently by both teams and i think i only mucked up a couple of decisions, premier league refs do it and they are paid, so all in it was a good day all round and 20 odd lads got a game of footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, mbkted said: I think the main problem is the moaning and grumbling refs get thrown at them which is why more people aren't willing to step in and give it a go. Plus the fact that as madron manager I was under even more scrutiny as to whether or not I was favourable to my own team or not. Are you the chap who took over towards the end of last season, the chap from Culdrose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Local league fan said: Illogan res 0-0 penryn res game abandoned on 70 mins as Ref Anita couldn’t carry on due to injury. Think the result still stands It will most probably be re-scheduled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkted Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: Are you the chap who took over towards the end of last season, the chap from Culdrose? Yes I am. Probably famous for all the wrong reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggy Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Dave Bartlam said: It will most probably be re-scheduled. It was less than five minutes left not twenty. Both managers spoke to Anita an agreed to finish the game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dk64 Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 St agnes res 3 troon 3 ..aggie with 6 ..16 years olds playing today battled to get a point ..first points in a very strong league ..so good to see the youngster coming through though ..yes it will be a baptism of fire sometimes ..but hopefully we will reap the rewards ..Alex Wilson 1..Oliver keveren 2 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, mbkted said: Yes I am. Probably famous for all the wrong reasons No, just that we were saying the other day in the stand at Pz that whoever was the manager at Madron has managed to build a stronger squad than last season and that you would not be push-overs as some think. Your results are starting to prove that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bartlam Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Muggy said: It was less than five minutes left not twenty. Both managers spoke to Anita an agreed to finish the game . Unfortunately, all abandonments have to go to committee for decision. Both clubs will be consulted and I'm sure if both say they want the result to stand, the committee will take that into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkted Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, cornishteddyboy said: No, just that we were saying the other day in the stand at Pz that whoever was the manager at Madron has managed to build a stronger squad than last season and that you would not be push-overs as some think. Your results are starting to prove that. Thank you. All my hard work isn't going un noticed. Think we will shock a few teams this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfield Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 08/09/2018 at 08:13, John Mead said: Well said, Older. My thoughts entirely! To be fair looking at the stats for Tralawny 4 one booking and 1 sending off in all the games shows that maybe it’s not all that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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