Flabby Cabbie Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I believe one of the proposals for tonight's AGM is for 2 leagues of 12 and 11. That would mean relegating a team that were not in a relegation spot. Surely that cannot be possible. There must be an FA rule somewhere that prohibits that. Surely ??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Unless a team asks to go down for geographical or other reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Cannot see that happening as it has been proposed that Lanreath are promoted to Div One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 cant they find a team to promote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 13 and 10 or even 14 and 9 would seem more logical now that Pensilva have folded.With 3 Cup Competitions to be played this would make enough games.NOBODY wants to be playing after the first Saturday in May.It has to be assumed that there will be some wet weeks during the winter:so I would have thought that 20-24 league/cup games are plenty.Also if necessary home/away could be facilitated in the 1st round of the Div.1 cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentekkers Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 For me next season will be a shambles for Division 1. If the league starts with a division of 10 then 18 league games is a joke, I use to have more games at school. The league will just become another duchy league really and it will make that division a lot worse than the Prem. obviously this year is a nothing year with the changes next year, but I expect more clubs to drop ourt or fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 As an alternative,IF Division 1 has 9/10 teams,I suppose they could play each other 3 timed (24 or 27 games).I suspect div.1 clubs wouldn't mine this if it gives them plenty of games. Bentekkers,do you have a sensibly solution ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentekkers Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 With the league structure changing next year I guess this is a free hit. I know everyone will worry that what happened next year with the weather will happen again this year. From experience I know that at least one other club will drop out just before, or a few games into the season. My worry is that the East Cornwall league is in danger of having a huge gap between the top of Prem and the bottom of division 1. Players in Division 1 will either go and play duchy or try and play Prem and I honestly think the division 1 league will become a nothing league. For me, making it 1 league seems the obvious route in trying to make the league a competitive, respected league. Having divisions of 14/13/12 now maybe 10 teams is to me, a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rundle Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I wouldn't be surprised to see some jiggery-pokery attempted to keep St Blazey reserves in the top division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 That's the very last thing they want:they will hope to re-group with youngsters.Plus what will happen to the Duchy League if there is no one in the frame to replace Mr.Newcombe.Perhaps CCFA will order an amalgamation. 1 hour ago, bentekkers said: With the league structure changing next year I guess this is a free hit. I know everyone will worry that what happened next year with the weather will happen again this year. From experience I know that at least one other club will drop out just before, or a few games into the season. My worry is that the East Cornwall league is in danger of having a huge gap between the top of Prem and the bottom of division 1. Players in Division 1 will either go and play duchy or try and play Prem and I honestly think the division 1 league will become a nothing league. For me, making it 1 league seems the obvious route in trying to make the league a competitive, respected league. Having divisions of 14/13/12 now maybe 10 teams is to me, a joke. A very reasoned reply:BUT you still haven't said what YOU would do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentekkers Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 As I say as this year is basically a free hit I can’t see much changing. I do believe having 10 teams in the league is clearly ridiculous. I just don’t understand how the division has got into this state. Clubs clearly move on or fold all the time but teams seem to dip in and out of east cornwall. Next year one league 18/20 teams and that is a no brainer. This season they have to find a way where more than 18 games are being offered to teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coady-9 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 18 league games is shambolic half a season waste of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishfootball Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 If there are too many teams for ECPL to have 1 league then stop any promotions from the Duchy until the restructure and send the bottom club from Div 1 down. Seems stupid noone seems to go down very often from Div 1 to Duchy Prem. Actually thats unfair on the teams from Duchy that have earned the right to go up...... just relegate a couple of sides from Div 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfield Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 The leagues are in a right state arent they it needs a well thought out re structure! When it was one big league the bottom few teams were clinging to there senior status and continually voted back in. Now the leagues have been split and opened up its lost that senior feel.(some of the standard of facilities should never been in there and yet some teams have really made a big effort to improve ) There’s been a massive geographical change in there as well with lots of Plymouth based sides when I first played there was loads of games st Dennis ,foxhole,nanpean,st Stephen,roach,probus then you would travel to grounds like wadebridge liskard launceston Callington torpoint Bodmin all great grounds . Over time there’s been a few teams folded few been successful and some teams and lots of players who don’t want to be a part of it .The east Cornwall league having plymstock, elburton villa ,parkway, plympton ,lakeside they come In for a year then are gone again. see how many players in there mid 20s playing in the duchy leagues who should be playing higher.Within the east Cornwall leagues you wouldn’t expect players to be getting paid but the travelling is is making it financially difficult for players to play in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanfare Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Plympton have never been in but agree that the China clay cluster provided lots of derbies and not forgetting Bugle as well. It's a shame they can't start again. I prefer the East Cornwall Premier League being that but times change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Fanfare said: Plympton have never been in but agree that the China clay cluster provided lots of derbies and not forgetting Bugle as well. It's a shame they can't start again. I prefer the East Cornwall Premier League being that but times change. Ah!,those were the days:never to return I'm afraid.20 years ago,the "Clay Country" was the hotbed of the ECPL(Bugle, Riviera Coasters,Foxhole et al ).The advent of the Peninsula League has put paid to all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I guess it certainly diluted a strong base. Looking below at the last 20 team season of 2005-06 about 6 went onto try SWPL football. Nothing wrong with ambition however. 3 are now in the Premier Division and no doubt will be pleased that they took the step up. Saltash United reserves Probus Godolphin Atlantic Foxhole Stars Dobwalls Sticker Wadebridge Town reserves Camelford Launceston reserves Liskeard Athletic reserves St Dennis Bodmin Town reserves Padstow United Torpoint Athletic reserves Callington Town reserves Biscovey St Stephen Nanpean Rovers Roche St Cleer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 It just amazes me, not just this posting but on others, how members on this forum having a pop at Leagues on how they are being run and what they would do to rectify the problem. Last winter was horrendous with bad weather, clubs folding and team not playing fixtures. Members have got their wish to have a cornwall league. Will it get better, time will tell. My point, if members think they can do a better job, then put your name forward for the vacant secretary positions at the Duchy and ECPL league. I am sure they will appreciate your knowledge and contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentekkers Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Nobody can argue that its a shambles to have a 10 team league. Clubs start in Duchy and have aspirations of going up and up to get to East Cornwall and then maybe in the future South Western. Each step you have to adhere to certain rules; Perimiter, lights etc... You do all that and then you are in a 13 and 10 team league. Saying step up and be and secretary or whatever is ridiculous. Everyone knows the league has been a ticking time bomb for a while. Teams dip in and out because they can and as for next year....god knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Yes it's not an easy job but somebody needs to do it otherwise the league(s) cannot continue. But there are plenty of members with big ideas, can they do this, do it that way etc etc. I am sure these leagues would welcome new committe members on board with fresh ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterfield Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, hedgerow said: Yes it's not an easy job but somebody needs to do it otherwise the league(s) cannot continue. But there are plenty of members with big ideas, can they do this, do it that way etc etc. I am sure these leagues would welcome new committe members on board with fresh ideas. 1 hour ago, hedgerow said: Yes it's not an easy job but somebody needs to do it otherwise the league(s) cannot continue. But there are plenty of members with big ideas, can they do this, do it that way etc etc. I am sure these leagues would welcome new committe members on board with fresh ideas. Theres plenty of good ideas on here! The time I do get I manage a village side thankless task. managers get criticised and when things aren’t in order you get slapped with big fines! Think the Ecpl committee get off lightly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECPL Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Division One will have 18 league games. Plus at least one league cup game plus at leas two games (home and away) in the Division One Cup plus at least one game in the supplementary cup plus a game in the country cup. A minimum of 23 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 That's why clubs have a good secretary so clubs don't get hit with massive fines. All round, whatever role you are involved in with a club, it is a thankless job. Personally, the FA and County FA's should look on how to make the role(s) easier for clubs, after all it is just a hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rundle Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I know there's very little else that could be done (perhaps the teams playing each other 3 times in the league?) but a minimum of 23 games split across about 39 matchdays (Saturdays and Bank Holidays) means the teams will intentionally be idle for more than a third of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 I,m afraid I don't share your optimism for a dry winter,Richard ! At least unwanted middle/end of a May scramble will(should) thankfully be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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