fenman Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 We are constantly being encouraged to be in awe of the premiership and told it is the greatest division in the world . BUT if you analyse it is it really that good . Many will shoot down my thoughts stating that in the cases mentioned the Premiership teams fielded weakened teams .. Manchester United struggled against Bristol City , Arsenal lost to Notts Forest Manchester City beat Wolves on penalties after extra time and then appeared to struggle against Bristol City in the League cup . Chelsea were fortunate against Norwich in the FA cup . As I said , granted that these teams played weakened teams but so did the championship teams . Also the alleged weakened Premiership teams had players that you would expect to be up to Premiership standard , why else have them .? These results , and others like Leicester and Fleetwood where Fleetwood hit the post in the dying seconds in the first game etc. etc. makes you wonder if they are that good . I accept that over a season the championship teams would struggle to maintain the pace in the top division as Huddersfield and Newcastle have proved . Is it because the prima donnas struggle to cope with direct football , or as Corporal Jones would say " they don't like it up em " . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 History has tended to prove fenman that if you get in their faces - and don't let them settle on the ball, they find it difficult. If you let them play, they can and will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Most exciting yes. Best standard? Nowhere near it. The technical ability in Spain and Italy is far superior in my opinion. However, we are the league with the most money therefore they will always try to say it’s the best as a selling point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Pat Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 I feel that money is spoiling it,not enough English managers or players which is stifling our game. It’s a joke when a club like Chelsea has over 30 players out on loan that in most cases never play for the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Postman Pat said: I feel that money is spoiling it,not enough English managers or players which is stifling our game. It’s a joke when a club like Chelsea has over 30 players out on loan that in most cases never play for the first team. Chelsea loaning out so many players is a business model that has become very successful, and is not breaking any rules. Teams pay large fees plus players wages to take these players on loan every year so it's a very smart way of increasing income. Also, if the players do well enough (granted this is rarely the case) they may be able to break into the first team on return. If they don't do well enough then Chelsea couldn't care less because they're still earning lots of money from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 The premiership is no longer about football, it's a business plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: The premiership is no longer about football, it's a business plain and simple. Thats true older but, there's a lot of skill on display too. Shame most of the best players (not all )are foreign nationals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Keith B said: Thats true older but, there's a lot of skill on display too. Shame most of the best players (not all )are foreign nationals though. Skill on negotiating contracts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 8 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: Skill on negotiating contracts as well. Oh - and I thought that was their agents - who get paid £ millions ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Pat Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 If you look at the transfer news on sky most players coming in are not British and that counts for all four divisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Postman Pat said: If you look at the transfer news on sky most players coming in are not British and that counts for all four divisions This makes me sick. It's all about now - with no thought for the future of the game in this country. We need to be concentrating on encouraging our own youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Most clubs live for today not tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Keith B said: This makes me sick. It's all about now - with no thought for the future of the game in this country. We need to be concentrating on encouraging our own youth. Just read Ray Parlour autobiography , where they had to look after the kit of the first team players , running errands , cleaning boots , toilets ECT while training in between, and picking up about thirty quid a week for the pleasure , today's pampered youngsters don't have to go though that and earn mega money even if they don't play in the first team . Is the hunger still there ? Edited January 27, 2018 by stevieb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 hours ago, stevieb said: Just read Ray Parlour autobiography , where they had to look after the kit of the first team players , running errands , cleaning boots , toilets ECT while training in between, and picking up about thirty quid a week for the pleasure , today's pampered youngsters don't have to go though that and earn mega money even if they don't play in the first team . Is the hunger still there ? They only need to play a couple of seasons to be millionaires !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 15 hours ago, stevieb said: Just read Ray Parlour autobiography , where they had to look after the kit of the first team players , running errands , cleaning boots , toilets ECT while training in between, and picking up about thirty quid a week for the pleasure , today's pampered youngsters don't have to go though that and earn mega money even if they don't play in the first team . Is the hunger still there ? They don't earn mega money stevie - they're given it. 11 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: They only need to play a couple of seasons to be millionaires !!!!! True older - and disgusting ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 11 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: They only need to play a couple of seasons to be millionaires !!!!! But they haven't earned that right , but then again who does . We are talking monopoly money , we all talk about x number of pounds per week for playing football as if it is fantasy football , the figures are mind boggling . Joey Barton a bread and butter footballer in his book says he was on 73,000 quid per week at QPR how many years would that take a loyal fan to earn his one week's pay . ? Frightening ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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