Best Refs in the west ?

[derek martyn]

:clapper: Refs come in for a fair share of stick at all levels of the game, but lets face it fellas its not an easy job. For the most part it is pretty much a thankless task.

In my own opinion the standard of refereeing at grass roots level localy can be very frustrating at times, but on the positive side their are also some very good refs around, and maybe we don't focus enough on, or give enough credit to these good refs.

So lets open the debate on two topics

1) What are the best qualities of a good referee. The qualities that will give them the best chance of earning the respect of players, managers and supporters.

2) Who are the top referees on the cornwall curcuit, Junior and Senior. Who are the standard bearers for the others to follow, and who are the rising stars.

Nearly lastly, on the subject of refs, i am aware that Ray Brown took a pool of young Cornish referees to gain some experience refereeing in a tournament abraod last year. As i understand it, Ray is doing the same again this year and is looking for help to fund the trip.

With a current national shortage of refs, i feel that this is a great initiative and should be encouraged by all of us with a keen interest in the local game. These are the local refs of the future.

Their has been much negative comment on the site recently, but wouldn't it be great if something positive and constuctive was done on this forum. Like somehow making a contribution to the young refs trip, any ideas ?

Lastly, here are my own personal thoughts on the qualities of a good ref:-

1) Is Fair and strong

2) Lets the game flow without unnecesary interuptions, yet controls the game.

3) Is Firm on dangerous play

4) Keeps up with play

5) Anylises his own performance, acknowledges his own mistakes, constantly trying to improve

6) good rapport with players yet firm when needed,

7) Smiles

8) Is approachable after the match

9) Holds no grudges

Best ref:- Colin Spence (Newquay)

[Rob Hosking]

charlie philpott= quality ref

[tms no9]

big porkie s h i t hot ref and a s h i t hot bloke off the field aswell

[Rob Hosking]

true , porkie is class

[r_and_l]

I dont know his name but the ref who came from the championship last season he is quality,lets the game flow enjoys himself you can talk to him but you know not to push it and he holds his hands up if he makes a mistake top ref and a top bloke of the pitch.

(see anita I can say nice things about refs )

[tms no9]

as in the old div 1 championship?

whats he doing down here :huh:

[Coopsie]

VERY dodgy topic this one. Think I'll be keeping my opinion to myself and then it's unlikely that anybody's nose will be put out of joint. The ref's that I consider "good" know who they are and get nothing but respect from me.

[bushy]

nigel nicholls

[Guest Postie Pidge]

as in the old div 1 championship?

whats he doing down here

He lives down here! I presume you mean Mike Hawken from Roche?

[tms no9]

coopsie who is the fat bold bloke down guval everytime we play?

he always does a really good job never have a complaint about him

[Coopsie]

coopsie who is the fat bold bloke down guval everytime we play?

he always does a really good job never have a complaint about him

Would I be right in assuming that you're talking about a ref tms no9?.

[r_and_l]

I think so postie he only started refing down here during last season top ref obviously considering his credentials i think he said he does it just for a bit of fun havent had him this season though is he still doing it

[Gary Cornish]

Derek

Ray Brown as head, Kevin Wilkinson & myself did take a group of 9 young referees from pretty much all over Cornwall to the Denmark Soccer Festival at Ishoj at the end of July 2007.

A very successful trip saw 12 referees covering 240 matches (20 mins each way 11-a-side) over 4 days, with teams from all over Europe, & as far away as USA & even Brazil taking part.

We received only one complaint! This was mainly due to language barriers, & was easily overcome. the Tournament Officials had nothing but praise (we won't mention the karaoke!) for all of us, & can't wait to have us back!

Another trip is happening in July 2008, with hopefully an even larger group of youngsters & any donations however large or small will be greatly appreciated. If anyone is interested in helping fund this, or to simply make a donation, then please contact Ray Brown or Kevin Wilkinson. They will also be able to give you better information than myself at present.

Many thanks for your very positive comments

Gary Cornish

[Guest Frodo]

ONE THAT DOESNT BOOK ANYONE ? FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN FEEDING THE FA.

[tms no9]

coopsie who is the fat bold bloke down guval everytime we play?

he always does a really good job never have a complaint about him

Would I be right in assuming that you're talking about a ref tms no9?.

yes mate who is it?

[Woodmanaldo]

There are a number of quality referee's around, and you're right in saying that they don't get enough praise in what is a difficult job at times:

Colin Spence is a quality referee as well as a top bloke.

I've had Paul Cackett quite a few times in the Duchy League and he is always firm and fair - yet to see him have a bad game!

[St Newlyn East AFC]

Good refs we've had at St Newlyn East in the past have been Dave Lobb and Gary Cornish. Both are always in control, make fair decisions and don't treat players like 'naughty school kids'. You can also have a bit of banter with them either on the pitch or managing from the side.

Agree with views about Colin Spence...quality ref.

[Guest Peppermint]

There are some very good referees in the County and it was nice to see Colin Spence's name mentioned by Derek Martin and others. It is always refreshing to see some referees with a smile on their face and appearing to be enjoying the game and can have some banter with players. Much better, in my opinion, than starting out trying to be confrontational.

[Coopsie]

coopsie who is the fat bold bloke down guval everytime we play?

he always does a really good job never have a complaint about him

Would I be right in assuming that you're talking about a ref tms no9?.

yes mate who is it?

I believe you may be talking about a certain Norman Wood tms no9.. He was also a heck of a player and I think that his thorough understanding of the passion and desire within a player allows him to have a greater understanding of certain situations, therefore he isn't as "whistle happy" as many officials and understands the difference between a blatant foul and a mistimed challenge.

Having known him since 1986 and being a friend of all his family, I figure that I know him better than most and I'll be only too glad to pass on your kind words tms no9.

I'm not too sure how much officiating he'll get to do this season though because after leaving his position as Penzance Combination manager, he is now running Madron 1st team in mining 2.

[tms no9]

coopsie who is the fat bold bloke down guval everytime we play?

he always does a really good job never have a complaint about him

Would I be right in assuming that you're talking about a ref tms no9?.

yes mate who is it?

I believe you may be talking about a certain Norman Wood tms no9.. He was also a heck of a player and I think that his thorough understanding of the passion and desire within a player allows him to have a greater understanding of certain situations, therefore he isn't as "whistle happy" as many officials and understands the difference between a blatant foul and a mistimed challenge.

Having known him since 1986 and being a friend of all his family, I figure that I know him better than most and I'll be only too glad to pass on your kind words tms no9.

I'm not too sure how much officiating he'll get to do this season though because after leaving his position as Penzance Combination manager, he is now running Madron 1st team in mining 2.

yeah mate that would be nice like i said i personally have played you away twice and have yet to spot a single mistake and like you said he lets the game roll instead of blowing every 5 seconds

[Coopsie]

Just a shame he's a Man Utd fan. Top fella though.

[Guest Peppermint]

Never mind Coopsie - at least Spurs beat the Blue lot from Manchester!!!!

[Soccer Follower]

I thought that Alan Davenport was the main man up at Madron Coopsie? Where has he gone or is he still with the club?

[Coopsie]

He's still secretary mate BUT he's not actually been manager of the 1st team for a couple of seasons now.

Peppermint, I'm still in shock at the result.

[Guest helstons14]

Chris soemthing (can't remember his sirname) from Constantine is always good, a few others but can never recall any names.

[r_and_l]

A ref noticed me in tha garage the other day but i didnt recognise him so he must be a quality ref :clapper:

[Guest Peppermint]

Helston14 - I think you may mean Chris Dengler.