PistolPete Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi everyone First post, so please be kind. I'm a student at Hartbury College studying Football Studies and Coaching. My family are from Cornwall and I am home for the summer. Currently writing a thesis on non-league goalkeepers and focusing on those in the West Country. Longer term I am looking to turn this into a book. Im hoping to get to a number of pre season friendlies and the early league matches before returning to College. My thesis aims to cover a number of areas but want to also focus on some stats and some opinions. Stats wise I am interested in: oldest and youngest goalkeepers registered for SWPL for 2017/18 Tallest keeper Shortest keeper Most appearances Most clean sheets Any ex-pros keepers that played in SWPL Any keepers gone from SWPL to pro football Opinion wise I would be keen to get opinions on best ever SWPL keeper and current. Would then like to interview them for my thesis - so if anyone has contacts I would be grateful. Hope someone can help. Thanks all. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendronOfficial Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi Pistol There's a few ex pros and some that went on to become pros in the ex format of the league - but I'll leave that to the more qualified statos. As for current tall keepers, I'll throw our own Ben Mitchell into the hat. Rumour has it that he is the only human that can be seen from space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobjfh Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Pistol - there will be many on here who will be able to give you definitive stats, as several have spent many years collating facts and figures on player details. I would suggest that you look at spending some time with a few of those as a starter (Dave Deacon / Cornishteddyboy / etc etc) - they would separate the 'wheat from the chaff' for you. I would suggest several of the ex pro players like Rappo (striker) or Kev Miller (keeper) would be of use to you - Rappo is a regular contributor on the site (pm him) and has facts and figures on all of his 2003 goals so must have seen some keepers!! As for youngest keeper for next season, I would hazard a guess that Luke Gwilliam at Camelford (probably 17 by now) is youngest in SWPL Prem and Dan Stedman (16 yo) who I think is still at wendron in SWPL West - may have moved? Liskeard also, I believe have a young keeper? Also look to speak to Mousehole AFC (via Twitter of Facebook) - they have just launched a new initiative involving pro keeping coaching so will have loads of contact details. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, PistolPete said: Hi everyone First post, so please be kind. I'm a student at Hartbury College studying Football Studies and Coaching. My family are from Cornwall and I am home for the summer. Currently writing a thesis on non-league goalkeepers and focusing on those in the West Country. Longer term I am looking to turn this into a book. Im hoping to get to a number of pre season friendlies and the early league matches before returning to College. My thesis aims to cover a number of areas but want to also focus on some stats and some opinions. Stats wise I am interested in: oldest and youngest goalkeepers registered for SWPL for 2017/18 Tallest keeper Shortest keeper Most appearances Most clean sheets Any ex-pros keepers that played in SWPL Any keepers gone from SWPL to pro football Opinion wise I would be keen to get opinions on best ever SWPL keeper and current. Would then like to interview them for my thesis - so if anyone has contacts I would be grateful. Hope someone can help. Thanks all. Pete One easy one would be Nigel Martin going on to play in goal for England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockey jackson Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, ex-chairman said: One easy one would be Nigel Martin going on to play in goal for England! Think u will find he never played swpl football so would have to be Kev Miller as the best around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul pearce Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Nigel Martin never played south western league!!!!!????. U sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, mockey jackson said: Think u will find he never played swpl football so would have to be Kev Miller as the best around Agreed he never played SWPL only SWL 18 minutes ago, paul pearce said: Nigel Martin never played south western league!!!!!????. U sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul pearce Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Surely just a league in a dif name. Knew he played SWL, sorry 2 question M jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Beaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, WendronOfficial said: Hi Pistol There's a few ex pros and some that went on to become pros in the ex format of the league - but I'll leave that to the more qualified statos. As for current tall keepers, I'll throw our own Ben Mitchell into the hat. Rumour has it that he is the only human that can be seen from space. Of course he can - fluorescent pink (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxman Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Am I mistaken, or did Nigel Martyn play both for both Bugle and St Blazey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Taxman said: Am I mistaken, or did Nigel Martyn play both for both Bugle and St Blazey Heavy Transport, Bugle, St Blazey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Dave Philp ex Newquay ,Falmouth ,St Blazey ,went on to play for Plymouth Argyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, 100%cornish said: Dave Philp ex Newquay ,Falmouth ,St Blazey ,went on to play for Plymouth Argyle To answer Pistol Pete re best goalie, can anyone beat Nigel's 23 caps for full England team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 13 hours ago, paul pearce said: Nigel Martin never played south western league!!!!!????. U sure Nigel Martyn played South Western League football for Bugle mid eighties. I know for fact that in a SWL Cup S/F He was in goal for Bugle and their opponents Falmouth Town had to play youth team Kevin Miller deputising for regular custodian John Dent. This is recognised as the first time these two Cornish giants met competitively on Cornish soil. Nigel Martyn had left St. Blazey for Bristol Rovers before Kevin turned out for Newquay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governor Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 What about Steve Nute SW league, SWPL and Argyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzFan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Also Gary Penhaligon who started at Argyle and went on to Newquay. Not sure which other clubs he played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretscout Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 More recently Kyle Moore (sure i have seen somewhere he was ex Torquay?) then you have cory harvey and Ollie Chenoweth i know they were on the books at argyle but not sure how far they got. Shortest has to be Ryan Rickard at Saltash. Most clubs will be Jason Peters. Biggest mouth will be Barrie Wyatt. Worst will be Josh Gilbert if you ask 100% cornish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivory Toast Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Former Arglye keeper Romain Larrieu turned out for Camelford unless Im greatley mistaken a couple of seasons ago. Unsure what hes up to now tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandlilywhite Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, secretscout said: More recently Kyle Moore (sure i have seen somewhere he was ex Torquay?) then you have cory harvey and Ollie Chenoweth i know they were on the books at argyle but not sure how far they got. Shortest has to be Ryan Rickard at Saltash. Most clubs will be Jason Peters. Biggest mouth will be Barrie Wyatt. Worst will be Josh Gilbert if you ask 100% cornish! Chappers tallest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretscout Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I watched Saltash V Launceston at the tail end of the season a whoever they had in goal then was a pretty tall chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bray Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 One of the best County Youth 'keepers from the past 20 years or so. Gary Turner / St.Blazey FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, David Bray said: One of the best County Youth 'keepers from the past 20 years or so. Gary Turner / St.Blazey FC. He was good and I think had chance of trials for Liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockey jackson Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Tallest could have been tom blackler ex Blazey keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bray Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 18 hours ago, ex-chairman said: He was good and I think had chance of trials for Liverpool? Yes he did, he had a few days up at their training ground. This came of a Liverpool scout watching him play for Cornwall Youth against Liverpool Youth in the FA County Youth Cup Semi Final at Kirby Sports Stadium. ( Feb.1995.). Nothing came of the trial and Gary continued to play locally. I can't think of a better 'keeper over the years than Gary. Nigel Martyn never played for Cornwall Youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-chairman Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, David Bray said: Yes he did, he had a few days up at their training ground. This came of a Liverpool scout watching him play for Cornwall Youth against Liverpool Youth in the FA County Youth Cup Semi Final at Kirby Sports Stadium. ( Feb.1995.). Nothing came of the trial and Gary continued to play locally. I can't think of a better 'keeper over the years than Gary. Nigel Martyn never played for Cornwall Youth. Did you overlook Nigel or thought you had better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, David Bray said: Yes he did, he had a few days up at their training ground. This came of a Liverpool scout watching him play for Cornwall Youth against Liverpool Youth in the FA County Youth Cup Semi Final at Kirby Sports Stadium. ( Feb.1995.). Nothing came of the trial and Gary continued to play locally. I can't think of a better 'keeper over the years than Gary. Nigel Martyn never played for Cornwall Youth. I think claiming injury whilst at Liverpool , being sent home to rest and playing out field for Polkerris the next weekend didn't impress Liverpool much either ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bray Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 hours ago, ex-chairman said: Did you overlook Nigel or thought you had better? Before my time with the CCFA. He apparently did'nt get picked because he was'nt playing Senior Football at the time. 2 hours ago, Tribute said: I think claiming injury whilst at Liverpool , being sent home to rest and playing out field for Polkerris the next weekend didn't impress Liverpool much either ? 'did'nt impress Liverpool at the time' that's a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, David Bray said: Before my time with the CCFA. He apparently did'nt get picked because he was'nt playing Senior Football at the time. 'did'nt impress Liverpool at the time' that's a bit harsh. His ability obviously impressed . It was coming home injured then a few days later playing for Polkerris that didn't impress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryPWH Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Gary 'Teflon ' Turner was a fantastic keeper, without doubt in my mind he should have played in the football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, HarryPWH said: Gary 'Teflon ' Turner was a fantastic keeper, without doubt in my mind he should have played in the football league. Fantastic keeper, when you talk about great keepers Teflon is up there. Teflon, Big Kev, Nigel Martyn, John Dent, Philpy, all head & shoulders above other keepers that have come through the last 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Chippy Chapman ....total class keeper, as good as I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Trevor Prophet. Top class goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footienut Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Gary Penhaligon is up there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishfootball Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Seen a lad playing in goal and outfield over the years. Cant remember his name, maybe bonzy or something like that but had to be 6ft 6 or up towards that height. Played for a team up torpoint way, longest arms I've ever seen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORTH DEVON DWELLER Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 On 20/06/2017 at 20:48, paul pearce said: Surely just a league in a dif name. Knew he played SWL, sorry 2 question M jackson The South West Peninsula League was a brand new league back in 2007 when the South Western League and Devon County League amalgamated into one and is not a different name for the South Western League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Seen lots of good goalies NeWQUAY use to have a goalie called Paul Collet he was really good Liskeard had Tony Richardson .Phil Hewlett Saltash think the goalies where a lot better in the 70s and 80S No one has come anywhere near as close as Big Kevin Miller and dont think they will he was just class and made goalkeeping look so easy .Tom Annear is good in goal when hes called upon by Falmouth but is a better player nearly forgot his dad Dennis was a real good goalie especially for Newquay when they had a hell of a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppit Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What about Paul Hicks ? Played for Wadebridge Bodmin and Barnstaple as well as Cornwall. Must have played in the SW league for 20 years or more, also had trials for a couple of pro sides if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Anyone can get trials Hoppit, but Gary 'Teflon' Turner, Philpy, John Dent, Big Kev all in my opinion a class above the rest in recent times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppit Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Sorry didn't realise it was a competion. Never heard of Turner,Dent was too short, Miller was a pro so he has to be the best,. Anyone can request a trial but not many are invited so what you say is only partly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Believe Dent played pro also? Turner was quality, ask anyone who saw the guy play. I been around local football 35 years, trust me Gary Turner was top class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 John Dent was on the books at Plymouth Argyle in the early 1970s. Steve Nute was on the books at Exeter City and played for them in the Western League. Dave Walter and Matthew Bates at Holsworthy went onto bigger things. The latter was well over 6'3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I had a feeling John made a first team appearance in one of the cup competitions back in the late 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzFan Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 John Dent would be a contender for oldest GK when he had to go in goal for Penzance a few seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Thanks for all your help guys. Some really interesting stuff here. Thank you and will really help me. Watched my first pre season games yesterday involving SWPL teams. Saw St Blazey v Millbridge. Then Argyle v Saltash. Two good keepers in the first game. St Blazey had a very young lad - looked very confident though. Millbridge keeper made a few good saves. Saltash keeper didn't have much to do. Not very vocal and quite short. Not sure if he was their regular. Looking to get to a few more games this week. Thanks again for your help everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 T\\he Saltash goalie was Ryan Rickard he is there regular goalie and he maybe short but hes a hell of a good goalie as proven yesterday when called into action and did some good saves hes 1 ot the best goalies in the league and his record showed that last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Yeah certainly played against hundreds of keepers over the years Bob!!! Some great and some not so great! I liked them better!! Good luck with your project Pete ? Hi Dave, Nigel did actually play for the county youth team but he was believe it or not second choice to a lad called Trevor Prophet who Silly Billy mentioned on here who was very good at the time as well. Remember them having a couple of halves each in a couple of the friendlies we played against the East Cornwall X1 and Combo X1 before the serious south west counties games started. Used to only have 3 subs so didn't see Nige much after that except for a few games for Bugle then he was gone!!! The rest is history as they say!! I often wonder if Trev is down the pub telling the story of how he kept Nige out the County Youth side all those years ago!! About 18 months later Nige was playing for Bristol Rovers 1st team and Trev was playing for a team called Heavy Transport or something in the Duchy League!!! Funny old game eh!! ?⚽️? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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