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Guest mikethfc

camborne school of mines p - p four lanes

referee was 'ill'. this really starting to p me off now because thats three games we havnt played because of having no ref. we have so many games to catch up and this is rediculous when the conditions are fine to play in.

we offered to play with another ref who wasnt affiliated to the league but was still fully qualified but affiliated to another league. they were having none of it. surely people just want to play on a saturday afternoon don't they? it's not like we were saying that one of our subs was going to ref it.

did any other teams in mining league 2 get your games underway today or did your ref not feel like coming outside in a pair of shorts either?!!

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.am I missing something from the first post ???

we had no referee but they would not play with a fully qualified ref who was affilliated to another league

since when were referees affilliated to leagues ???

They register with a ...COUNTY FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION .....NOT A LEAGUE ...and then they get appointed to matches in different leagues according to their status .

I await an explanation !!! :o:o :o

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well zebedee when i first registered as a official i was given the choice of leagues i could referee and decided to referee in the mining league and the sunday league so if i did a fal-hel league game i would still be a qualified referee but not registered with that league . perhaps thats what happened

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div 3

TITANS 3 - 1 CORNISH NEW BOYS

THE FIRST LOCAL DERBY BETWEEN THE LEAGUES TWO NEW CLUBS WITH ONLY GOAL DIFFRENCE SEPERATING THERE POSITIONS IN THE LEAGUE, BOTH TEAMS HAD EVERYTHING TO PLAY FOR AND THAT THEY DID , THE TITANS WENT 1-0 DOWN BUT CAME BACK AND WON A PEN, WHICH WAS PLACED IN TO THE BACK OF THE NET BY TOM.M THE TITANS TOOK THERE HIGH SPIRIT AND MADE IT 2-1 BEFORE HALF TIME, AFTER THE HALF TIME BRAKE BOTH TEAMS CAME OUT FIGHTING THEN THE TITANS WAS GIVEN ANOTHER PEN FOR A HAND BALL WHICH TOM.M PUT AWAY AGAIN FINAL SCORE 3 - 1 EVERYONE ENJOYED A DRINK IN THE BAR AFTER MAKING IT A GRATE GAME :drink:

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Guest Postie Pidge

Robartes 11 Holmans 1 HT (9.1)

Good performance from the lads.

Nick Mills 3, Rich Ward 3, Dan Ellis 2, Spencer Hassell 2 , James Wells 1

Well officiated by Soccer Follower in the drizzle

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welldone to the TITANS today on a good win against a good team in CORNISH NEW BOYS in a hard fought game. :clapper: we just about deserverd to win in a closely contested game between two evenly matched teams. i would like to thank the ref who was quite young. it cannot be easy to fereree in mens footy at such a young age with no playing experiance. :c:

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im no expert on the ref system but i think sammo's got it right. in the end of the day if a bloke is qualified to the job then let him do it and lets just get on with it?!

theres guna be some horrible rainy/foggy days when we are forced to cancel games so wasting a perfectly good saturday like yesterday is just stupid

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Robartes 11 Holmans 1 HT (9.1)

Good performance from the lads.

Nick Mills 3, Rich Ward 3, Dan Ellis 2, Spencer Hassell 2 , James Wells 1

Well officiated by Soccer Follower in the drizzle

Agree with you pidge soccer follower did an excellent job yesterday unfortunatly that didn't extend to us in the 1st half going in at halftime 9-1!!!!(not a very nice experience)

However credit to my lads that they showed some pride and a good attitude in the 2nd half and only conceeded two late goals to make it a deserved win for the home side.

we are really struggling for players at the moment which is why we have been on the end of 3 hammerings but are hoping to turn it around although the increased standard in the mining league and the fact we are a 3rd team and at the bottom of our selection process means its not looking too good to remain in the upper tier of the junior league next season

only if we can get a good settled squad together and try and battle out a few results with our fellow strugglers will it be possible to stem the freefall we are in at the moment

by the way big thanks to Robartes (not for the 11 goals lol) but for running our line for us as we only had a bare 11

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Thanks to Robartes Arms and Holman SC for playing the game in the correct manner and making my job so much easier.Thanks also to Darren and James of Robartes for acting as assistants on both lines(Holmans only had the bare number of players).

Pretty much one way traffic in the first half (9-1)but Pitty's team talk at half time seemed to work wonders together with a reorganisation as the second half was a much closer affair.

Look forward to officiating both teams again in the future.Good luck.

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camborne school of mines p - p four lanes

referee was 'ill'. this really starting to piss me off now because thats three games we havnt played because of having no ref. we have so many games to catch up and this is rediculous when the conditions are fine to play in.

we offered to play with another ref who wasnt affiliated to the league but was still fully qualified but affiliated to another league. they were having none of it. surely people just want to play on a saturday afternoon don't they? it's not like we were saying that one of our subs was going to ref it.

did any other teams in mining league 2 get your games underway today or did your ref not feel like coming outside in a pair of shorts either?!!

In our game in mining 3 (Gulval reserves V Wendron) there was a "no show" by the ref, so we chatted to the Wendron lads and all agreed that one of their "supporters" (Well a guy who came to watch a game of football and wanted the game to go ahead) could officiate. The game was played in VERY good spirit and I think it's fair to say that the guy who volunteered to ref, actually enjoyed himself. Wendron were a great bunch of lads who play for eachother really well and I'm sure that in seasons to come, a decent young team will mature into a pretty good unit if they can all stay together. Looking at them, the average age couldn't have been any higher than 19 and at times they played some really good football.

mikethfc, you are absolutely right fella, people SHOULD want to play on a saturday afternoon. I know that we at Gulval will do whatever it takes to ensure we get to play a game of footy and enjoy a good "bonding session" afterwards.

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All the results from this weekends games:-

One & All Sports

Mining Div 1.

Goonhavern 1, Gulval 1.

Illogan 1, Gwinear 0.

Redruth Utd 0, Halsetown 1.

Robartes 11, Holmans 1.

Threemilestone 3, St Ives Town 1. :thumbsup:

Troon v Storm -OFF- no ref.

Division 2.

S.O.M. v Four Lanes -OFF- no ref.

Halsetown 1, St Buryan 3.

Madron 7, Ludgvan 0.

Mousehole 16, Marazion 1. :o

N.P.R. 4, Newlyn N.A. 2.

Sennen 6, Mount Ambrose 0.

Trispen 6, Illogan 3.

Division 3.

Crown Inn Glory 0, Portreath 4.

Gulval 6, Wendron 2.

Pendeen 4, St Ives Mariners 3.

Redruth Utd 3, Newlyn N.A. 3.

St Buryan 1, Threemilestone 3. :thumbsup:

Storm 4, Chacewater 2.

Titans 3, C.N.B. 1.

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im never one to hold a grudge, but the referee for the titans v C.N.B was an absolute discrace! Before you say it, i know he was young, but he seems to have developed a hatred for the Cornish New Boys for no reason what so ever. He gave us nothing when we played TMS Res, and nothing in this match either.

Who knows what the result would of been if we had a decent referee, but it would of been close, as both ourselves, and titans were goin for glory straight from the kick off.

Just a warning to other teams. If this ref doesnt like you for some reason, you'll probably lose, to some awful decisions.

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im never one to hold a grudge, but the referee for the titans v C.N.B was an absolute discrace! Before you say it, i know he was young, but he seems to have developed a hatred for the Cornish New Boys for no reason what so ever. He gave us nothing when we played TMS Res, and nothing in this match either.

Who knows what the result would of been if we had a decent referee, but it would of been close, as both ourselves, and titans were goin for glory straight from the kick off.

Just a warning to other teams. If this ref doesnt like you for some reason, you'll probably lose, to some awful decisions.

hold on a second when you played us the ref did a good job he cant help the fact your players go diving into challenges in your own area.

id be biased against you aswell with that annoying women on the touch line giving evry1 on the pitch stick!!!!

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Just to echo Coopsie's remarks earlier in this thread about the guy who refereed the Gulval v Wendron game last Saturday. Well done mate. Not sure he enjoyed it that much, he was soaked through to the skin by the end.

Also, thanks to both sets of players for an eagerly contested game, with absolutley no silly business, including the "linesmen" who were fair throughout.

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coopsie are you playing for the reserves this sat.if so look forward to meeting you when the TITANS come to town :drink::thumbsup:

I hope to be with the reserves this week postman pat, but it's hard to say where I'll be recently. Hopefully my half decent showing last saturday (1 goal, 2 assists) will mean that I get to stay with our reserves?. Also, my son will want to watch his dad score again but I'm not too sure whether he's going christmas shopping?. If I am at home with the reserves, make yourself known to me and we'll have a pint after the match mate. Unless you beat us, then I'll sit in a corner being unsociable :c: :c:

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im never one to hold a grudge, but the referee for the titans v C.N.B was an absolute discrace! Before you say it, i know he was young, but he seems to have developed a hatred for the Cornish New Boys for no reason what so ever. He gave us nothing when we played TMS Res, and nothing in this match either.

Who knows what the result would of been if we had a decent referee, but it would of been close, as both ourselves, and titans were goin for glory straight from the kick off.

Just a warning to other teams. If this ref doesnt like you for some reason, you'll probably lose, to some awful decisions.

maybe the ref was young and did make some mistakes but i think he was consistant i dont think hes got a grudge against you or any team. everyones got to start some time ! its football you win some you lose some ! and maybe your sideline didnt help ! who knows only he knows the decisions he made and why ! look forward to the reply though it should be a good one :drink:

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Like Ant says guys (referring to Titans vs New Boys) its not sour grapes, Titans took the opportunities afforded to them on Saturday in what I thought was a very evenly matched game! But being 1-0 up with 5 minutes to go until half time, we were then on the end of a clear hand ball by Peter Barnes who then went on to score and a poor penalty award from a good challenge in the area, so going in 2-1 down was slightly frustrating. Especially as the same official gave two poor penalty decisions against us earlier in the season, we dont think he has a grudge but just does'nt look like he's played the game at all and we've been unfortunate to be on the end of some poor decisions. As a club we try to be as supportive as possible to all officials and have been lucky to have many good refs this season but just think this referee could do with a little more help in progressing!

I admit some of our fans are slightly excitable but we fully appreciate their support, and like you look forward to the return match which i'm sure will be a close one again, All the Best!

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Like Ant says guys (referring to Titans vs New Boys) its not sour grapes, Titans took the opportunities afforded to them on Saturday in what I thought was a very evenly matched game! But being 1-0 up with 5 minutes to go until half time, we were then on the end of a clear hand ball by Peter Barnes who then went on to score and a poor penalty award from a good challenge in the area, so going in 2-1 down was slightly frustrating. Especially as the same official gave two poor penalty decisions against us earlier in the season, we dont think he has a grudge but just does'nt look like he's played the game at all and we've been unfortunate to be on the end of some poor decisions. As a club we try to be as supportive as possible to all officials and have been lucky to have many good refs this season but just think this referee could do with a little more help in progressing!

I admit some of our fans are slightly excitable but we fully appreciate their support, and like you look forward to the return match which i'm sure will be a close one again, All the Best!

where were the 2 poor penalty desicions against you??

hope your not reffering to tms game?

cause they were stone cold pens mate

your slightly exitable???one of the ladys was a headcase!!!scared seven shades outa me!

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All im sayin is that if the ref aint man enough to make the big decisions, then he shouldnt be on the pitch! The first team to scare him, will win! If you scare him straight from the kick off, he'll be scared to give decisions against you!

Im not going to say that we should of won against TMS and Titans, cause as someone said earlier, its football, so anythin can happen. All im sayin is that it might of been a different result if there was a better referee.

And as for the supports we get, we get that kind of support week in, week out! Who cares if they shout and scream and scare the opposition! Isn't that what home support is all about?? All i can say on that, is that we are grateful for the support we get, and is probably half the reason why we are doin well in our first season.

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All im sayin is that if the ref aint man enough to make the big decisions, then he shouldnt be on the pitch! The first team to scare him, will win! If you scare him straight from the kick off, he'll be scared to give decisions against you!

Im not going to say that we should of won against TMS and Titans, cause as someone said earlier, its football, so anythin can happen. All im sayin is that it might of been a different result if there was a better referee.

And as for the supports we get, we get that kind of support week in, week out! Who cares if they shout and scream and scare the opposition! Isn't that what home support is all about?? All i can say on that, is that we are grateful for the support we get, and is probably half the reason why we are doin well in our first season.

OK, it seems clear that neither of you are going to agree on this subject. So what if the ref was a little "weak", he was good enough to show up and give you 90 minutes of his time. What you have to remember is that you're playing Mining three football, we are the lowest level in the county and to be honest, you should just consider yourself lucky that you had a ref at all.

There are some poor officials out there and I'm sure that there are some that have convinced most of us that they have a grudge against our team. However, I can't state strongly enough that we represent the lowest level of footy in the county and therefore we can surely only expect officiating of a similar standard?.

You know that some weeks you'll see your team play the sort of football that leaves you thinking you could beat anybody in that form, well every now and again you'll get an official that seems to have noticed everything and got almost every decision spot on. Will you be as quick to go on a public forum and praise up the official as you were to slate one?.

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OK, it seems clear that neither of you are going to agree on this subject. So what if the ref was a little "weak", he was good enough to show up and give you 90 minutes of his time. What you have to remember is that you're playing Mining three football, we are the lowest level in the county and to be honest, you should just consider yourself lucky that you had a ref at all.

There are some poor officials out there and I'm sure that there are some that have convinced most of us that they have a grudge against our team. However, I can't state strongly enough that we represent the lowest level of footy in the county and therefore we can surely only expect officiating of a similar standard?.

You know that some weeks you'll see your team play the sort of football that leaves you thinking you could beat anybody in that form, well every now and again you'll get an official that seems to have noticed everything and got almost every decision spot on. Will you be as quick to go on a public forum and praise up the official as you were to slate one?.

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yes it would be the same ref but i have no cpmplaints i cought the ball on the line bronging back my rugby days hes not the best ref but we all start somewhere dont we ive started playing in mining 3 like he has reffing a low standard as we are not good enough yet but hopefully we will both steadily rise up the leagues :P

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we could be on this subject all day, at the end of the day young refs deserve praise for having the bottle to turn up to a mans match and take charge, it is clear teams will try and intimidate these refs but the ones who come out of this will be the much better refs. We learnt our lesson on this only few weeks bk

had an 18yr old ref us this season in match against homans who have bit of rivelry with us we tried to intimidate him all game and forgot to play football, ended up losing three one and out the cup

Moral of the story just enjoy and concentrate on playing your football, if you any of you want my autobiography pm me lol

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Re: poor referee(s).

I continue to be amazed by the shortsightedness of people who come onto this forum and slate a referee's performance.

Week after week, it takes a miracle to be able to field an independent referee for each of the games taking place on a Saturday, particularly the lower down the leagues.

The County Referees Association faces a constant battle to ensure that there is new blood coming into the officiating game, and we really need to give refs as much support as possible.

I, like many others, moan and grumble on occasions..............but I'd still prefer to have an official referee for games, rather than have to try to resource this myself.

And I wonder what this does for the confidence of whoever the referee was, in the game in question - what if he were reading this topic himself? How confident is he going to feel about his next game? And what thoughts does he have about a next allocation for refereeing C.N.B.?

By the sounds of it, the referee was young, inexperienced.................but at least he stood up and was counted and did the refereeing course, passed the exams and was willing to do the job.

We should be grateful.

On another point raised earlier in this topic - as far as I am aware, referees do not register for a particular league. They are registered with Cornwall County Referees Association and the association/referees appointments officer decides where to place a referee according to their refereeing level. If a referee chooses to restrict himself to a particular league/standard that is a choice for them. There is no 'affiliation' to a particular league. And I believe that the position with regard to referees is that 'if a suitably qualified referee is available', then both teams should agree to play a match.

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