peggy78 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 From the County FA Website: Cornwall Football Association have taken a firm stance against those who choose to place offensive comments on a public forum and it is hoped this will send a clear message to anyone associated with football in Cornwall that such unpleasant comments placed on media sites will not be tolerated. Four individuals have each been suspended from any involvement in all football for two qualifying matches. The players, who the Cornwall FA have declined to name individually but stated all play for St Day FC, had been involved in writing a series of offensive posts on a public forum. "The subject of the posts were insulting towards other players and clubs, using extremely offensive terms” said Phil Bunt, CCFA Discipline Panel Member. Three of those charged by Cornwall FA in association with the offence of E3 Improper Conduct pleaded guilty by post and the fourth failed to respond and the case was heard without any explanation from him. All four were suspended from taking part in any football activity for a period of two qualifying matches and fined £25 each. Their suspensions will run from 6th January 2014. "We are determined to see this type of activity stamped out across the county," said Mr Bunt, "and we think that these bans should go a long way to emphasising how seriously we take such matters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I've slightly amended this thread title to enforce the importance that be aware the CCFA will act. I don't know if this deed was carried out on this forum or elsewhere - but please all contributors think twice before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitty Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I applaud the CCFA for taking a stance on this. I hope forum users use the common sense that if you wouldnt say it to someone in the football club after a game then dont hide behind a made up anonymous name and verbally assault someone on a public forum. Hopefully this will not neutralise what can be a very entertaining place at times but will bring the forum back to what I'm sure Dave and Rich fully intended it to be in the first place which was topical debate on local football and quick and up to the minute match reports/results with a bit of humour thrown in and not personal vendetas against refs, clubs, managers, players and who made the best food for which no one came back for!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 But what will the CCFA do about people like me ? I'm 55 and haven't kicked a ball in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Confiscate your laptop??? MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 To be fair it was for comments on Facebook which I believe were violent, aggressive and abusive. Nothing to do with the this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I was going to add that as far as Rich and I are aware - it was not something posted on our Forum. But to be fair - it's a warning to everyone. Especially to those 55 years old (we'll be keeping a very close eye on you!!!) Can't have the Forum being accused of bringing the game into disrepute can we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggy78 Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 But what will the CCFA do about people like me ? I'm 55 and haven't kicked a ball in years Probably like the rest of us... roll their eyes and carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Love the fact that CCFA must be employing someone, probably full time, on a reasonable salary, to look at the posts made by anyone and everyone involved at a Cornish Club... being paid for spying on FB, Twitter, CFF and other sites, nice work if you can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nemesis I think they rely on people to report things, especially on Facebook and Twitter, rather than employing someone to spy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 bhd, absolutely correct, they do not as a matter of course scan this or any other forum, if people report abuse etc to them and it falls within their remit they then take action as we have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 It's a shame though that the article refers to "public forum" and not more directed towards "social networking". To my mind Forums and Facebook are completely different! Is there anyway Facebook is policed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 You can report postings on Facebook if they are of an offensive nature, but it's all through an automated system. I am interested by this though (having done work as a MSN forum and chat room host/monitor), as to the privacy boundaries that actions like this could incur. In this instance, the original post on Facebook was made "Public", so no privacy restrictions But if I, for example, were to use my Facebook account to call Adam Mitchell (sorry mate), a cheating so and so for something his team did on the football pitch, and made it only readable by my friends, would/could the County FA do anything The same, I guess, would apply to tweets between two people on Twitter, though there the lines are even more blurred, as anyone can "drop in" on any conversation between two people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Mr Yeti I think they could but it would take someone to screenshot it and send it to the County. Referees up country have been suspended fir something similar to what you described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Mr Yeti I think they could but it would take someone to screenshot it and send it to the County. Referees up country have been suspended fir something similar to what you described. But I suspect that the screenshot would break privacy rules of Facebook and Twitter.. Although being a member on either site, puts you under their privacy rules, you still have your own privacy settings which the websites have to adhere too, unless otherwise requested by a member of law enforcement. So if you called a team/ref/player out on Facebook, but it was only viewable by your friends, and one of them decided to Screenshot it and send it to the FA.. I don't think they can do anything about it. Social Media... Curse and a Blessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Social media sites = shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggy78 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 You can report postings on Facebook if they are of an offensive nature, but it's all through an automated system. I am interested by this though (having done work as a MSN forum and chat room host/monitor), as to the privacy boundaries that actions like this could incur. In this instance, the original post on Facebook was made "Public", so no privacy restrictions But if I, for example, were to use my Facebook account to call Adam Mitchell (sorry mate), a cheating so and so for something his team did on the football pitch, and made it only readable by my friends, would/could the County FA do anything The same, I guess, would apply to tweets between two people on Twitter, though there the lines are even more blurred, as anyone can "drop in" on any conversation between two people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rundle Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Mr Yeti I think they could but it would take someone to screenshot it and send it to the County. Referees up country have been suspended fir something similar to what you described. But I suspect that the screenshot would break privacy rules of Facebook and Twitter.. Although being a member on either site, puts you under their privacy rules, you still have your own privacy settings which the websites have to adhere too, unless otherwise requested by a member of law enforcement. So if you called a team/ref/player out on Facebook, but it was only viewable by your friends, and one of them decided to Screenshot it and send it to the FA.. I don't think they can do anything about it. That can't be right. If there is evidence, it can surely be used. Take it one step further, if the abuse was racist or something similar. Then the "friends" would surely be able to report it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm sure mr Yeti it can be used as this is how certain things, including this case, came to light in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Screen shots are easily doctored though, as I mentioned above, the case in question was public viewing (even I saw it and I've never been to St Day in my life). I suspect a screen shot would only be used to locate the original source of the abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marks Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Screen shots are easily doctored though, as I mentioned above, the case in question was public viewing (even I saw it and I've never been to St Day in my life). I suspect a screen shot would only be used to locate the original source of the abuse Dont worry yeti i won't post all the twitter remarks and facebook slaggings you've done to the ccfa about myself between you and mr keenan and to mr pitt over the past months, your secret slaggings off about me will not be mentioned. oooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Blewett Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Stiring it again marksey are we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There's a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Front page of the Indy for the naughty boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marks Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Only the truth as you will see no denial from yeti, the real little wind up merchant of the forum. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Blewett Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Sit back, relax and watch the banter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local_boy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Social media sites = shite. I think you mean CCFA instead of Social Media. They're so backwards with the way that they do things. I heard that they still send out carrier pigeons rather than emails, maybe they should try sorting out the way some Senior clubs are run then they wouldn't receive derogatory comments.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Only the truth as you will see no denial from yeti, the real little wind up merchant of the forum. Enough said. You'll need some better bait than that on your hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peggy78 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 local_ boy, thats strange as I get loads of e-mails from the CCFA plus all disciplinary reports are done by e-mail, in fact i do not have to put pen to paper for anything, perhaps you should update your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local_boy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 local_ boy, thats strange as I get loads of e-mails from the CCFA plus all disciplinary reports are done by e-mail, in fact i do not have to put pen to paper for anything, perhaps you should update your computer. you also do your match reports by email? as well as your signature? as you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 If you mean discilplinary reports, all done e-mail. I do not have to fill in any match reports. I also receive all my appointments by e-mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Social media sites = shite. I think you mean CCFA instead of Social Media. They're so backwards with the way that they do things. I heard that they still send out carrier pigeons rather than emails, maybe they should try sorting out the way some Senior clubs are run then they wouldn't receive derogatory comments.... If I had meant the ccfa - I would have posted so. Social media sites = shite - there you are, I said it again - clear enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Interesting that the CCFA declined to name the players in question, yet in the Sunday Independent; "The player's names have appeared on the association website as...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 News story without any names wouldn't be a very good newspaper article! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 If its in the papers - you can put it on here - no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 http://www.cornwallfa.com/~/media/countysites/cornwallfa/documents/governance/suspension-lists/cornwall-fa-suspension-list-updated-friday-3rd-january-2014.ashx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 What I was wondering is why the original statement wouldn't name them, then a day later they're named? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Perhaps the CCFA were being loyal to the players, while the newspaper has a job to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 But they were named by the CCFA a day later, before the paper picked it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh! Well perhaps the CCFA had a change of mind - the names would have been listed anyway. Were the names added to the original release or completely new article? The link on their home page to the article declines to mention the names. So where Yeti have you seen the other article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm paraphrasing what was written in the Independent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Ben, what has happened to your picture, and how come you have suddenly achieved guest status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Ben, what has happened to your picture, and how come you have suddenly achieved guest status? Ben requested to be deregistered as a member of the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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