cornishteddyboy Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Can you post your results, scorers and attendances on this thread please or text me on 07597907549 with any details. Thanks Cornwall Combination League 26th October 2013 Ludgvan (Gerens James 6, Mark Richards, Jamie Devine) 8-0 Porthleven Reserves Att - 55 Newquay Reserves (Nathan Old, Dean Vince, Cameron Bidgood) 3-0 Goonhavern Athletic Att - 61 Penryn Athletic Reserves (Ross Bowden, Paul Hart) 2-3 St Agnes (Dwayne Britton 2, Mike Burns) Att - 45 Perranwell (Matthew Lane) 1-1 St Ives Town (Ross Duncan) Att - 46 Redruth United (Ben Beesley, Ben Widdershoven, OG) 3-0 Falmouth Athletic Att - 48 St Day (Jordan Adlard, Gavin Boon, Terry Rowe) 3-1 Mullion (Alan Thomas) Att - 40 St Just (Chris Curnow) 1-3 Illogan RBL (Luke Abbot Smith 2, Sam Waters) Att - 60 Troon (Joe Day, Ben Holcombe) 2-2 Falmouth Town Reserves (Bryn Wheeler, Alex Ottoway) Att - 20 Wendron United (Luke Wort 3, Ryan Trathen, Chris Mulroy, Ben Allen) 6-0 Hayle Att - 35 POS TEAM PL W D L F A GD PTS 1 ST DAY 11 10 0 1 51 17 34 30 2 LUDGVAN 12 9 0 3 57 20 37 27 3 ILLOGAN RBL 10 9 0 1 25 10 15 27 4 FALMOUTH TOWN RESERVES 16 8 3 5 39 38 1 27 5 WENDRON UNITED 10 8 1 1 45 14 31 25 6 ST JUST 12 8 1 3 36 21 15 25 7 REDRUTH UNITED 12 7 1 4 33 20 13 22 8 ST IVES TOWN 11 6 3 2 30 18 12 21 9 PENRYN ATHLETIC RESERVES 16 6 2 8 33 33 0 20 10 ST AGNES 9 6 1 2 20 13 7 19 11 NEWQUAY RESERVES 16 5 4 7 31 36 -5 19 12 MULLION 12 5 2 5 20 19 1 17 13 HAYLE 14 4 4 6 19 34 -15 16 14 PERRANWELL 11 4 3 4 24 25 -1 15 15 FALMOUTH ATHLETIC 11 2 1 8 12 26 -14 10* 16 RNAS CULDROSE 11 2 2 7 15 38 -23 8 17 TROON 12 1 2 9 14 44 -30 5 18 PORTHLEVEN RESERVES 17 2 0 15 25 63 -38 3° 19 GOONHAVERN ATHLETIC 13 1 0 12 15 55 -40 3 * Plus 3 points °Minus 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheMenace Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Couple of good fixtures this weekend!!! Tie of the weekend I think will be St Just v Illogan. Two evenly matched teams in the physical department!! Should be a cracker. St Day v Mullion should be decent game with some good football being played. Mullion needing to bounce back after dropping a few points in the last couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jackson Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ludgvan 8 port 0 Gerens James 6 Mark Richards Jamie Devine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 St just 1 illogan 3 Illogan scorers Luke abbot smith 2 Sam waters 1 Great win in awful conditions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patch Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Fal town scorers were Brian wheeler and Alex ottoway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 wedron better side scotty our keeper was outstanding kieron and adam played well at the back but we were second best all over the park game finished just in time before the rain came down , did not enjoy some comments today and the ref let alot go and his exscuse for the language that it was not directed at him even when one player told him from about five yards away to go forth and fornicate very disapointed about that and glad when the final whistle was over wendron good team and played good football and deserved the win i enjoy banter but iam having serious thoughts about continueing to be involved in football as if you get no protection from the man in the middle whats the point in bothering giving your time up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savo Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Newquay scorers were Nathan old, Dean Vince and Cameron Bidgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Abbo Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Awesome result for illogan lads today. Great win against a strong st just. Credit to the spread st just put on. Tip top. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_d Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 St day scorers Jordan adlard, Gavin boon, terry Rowe mullions Alan Thomas game of two halfs at vogue park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield Marvel Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Aggie scorers Dwayne Britton (2) and Mike Burns. DB also missed a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Just heard Brynn Wheeler has quit as town combo boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Whys Brynn gone? Things going well and thought he was good pals with Denty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy howes Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 wedron better side scotty our keeper was outstanding kieron and adam played well at the back but we were second best all over the park game finished just in time before the rain came down , did not enjoy some comments today and the ref let alot go and his exscuse for the language that it was not directed at him even when one player told him from about five yards away to go forth and fornicate very disapointed about that and glad when the final whistle was over wendron good team and played good football and deserved the win i enjoy banter but iam having serious thoughts about continueing to be involved in football as if you get no protection from the man in the middle whats the point in bothering giving your time up[steve dont even think about quitting your one of the best linos out there and a top bloke head up and go again next week mate./quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy howes Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 stevieb dont even think about quitting your one of the best linos out there and a top bloke head up and go again next mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Stevieb if a player said that to me Im not going to send him but at least have a word maybe a yellow. I know foul language is a hot topic lately but we do need to be reasonable about this. Just because a word or phrase considered to be foul language is said does not mean that the ref should go straight for the cards but there are times when the ref has no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Stevieb if a player said that to me Im not going to send him but at least have a word maybe a yellow. I know foul language is a hot topic lately but we do need to be reasonable about this. Just because a word or phrase considered to be foul language is said does not mean that the ref should go straight for the cards but there are times when the ref has no choice. perhaps i am old fashioned then as the fa tries to keep the respect campagne going is it worth the effort , thanks for the support Andy i always try my best but feel a bit aggrieved after this afternoon but maybe after a good nights sleep may feel better sunday not after tonights fishing trip only one bloody whiting to show for 4 hours fishing ,just not my day perhaps past my sell by date maybe time just to watch and not get involved in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagerags Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ross Duncan for st ives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marazion2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Should quit running the line steve. Go back to management. I did and had 70 minutes at left back today haha. Only joking Steve. Half the players or supporters don't even know the laws of the game and then give abuse when decisions are made against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Chris Curnow scored for St Just. Credit to Illogan for making better use of the wind: not their fault that the game was ruined by the sort of refereeing blooper generally only seen in Cornwall....well, Ray Tinkler's performance in Leeds v WBA almost half a century ago comes to mind for those who remember it...... No disrespect to Illogan's number 10. His only job is to play to whistle and put the ball in the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 You cannot give a yellow card for comments like that, If any player tells me to Foxtrot Oscar (phonetic alphabet) then the red card is following very shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 If its reasonable in the circumstances Mr Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Should quit running the line steve. Go back to management. I did and had 70 minutes at left back today haha. Only joking Steve. Half the players or supporters don't even know the laws of the game and then give abuse when decisions are made against them. paul that cheered me up thinking of you playing 70 mins i would not last 70 seconds , as for managing again no thanks we have done that paul and i dont miss it one bit i know you still enjoy it and i take my hat of to you and ruffy for keeping going still miss you at the club at least you could make me laugh and want to strangle you at the same time all the best mate and hope to catch up soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 mrlaw18, when is it reasonable for a player to tell a referee to **** off ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Mr. Manning all i'm saying is that the circumstances of when it is said is just as important as the words said. Its about distinguishing between frustration and intention when in both cases the same words are used and even how it is said. That is what I meant by being reasonable about this. There is a danger that referees may get too sensitive and go OTT with red cards every time a foul word is said. Man management in most cases here is, in my opinion, should be tried first maybe getting the captain involved before going for the cards however there will be times when the ref has no choice but to send the offender off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think gentlemen that we, more or less, agree, it's just getting the rest of them to agree with us. Players, Managers, lots of, less experienced, Referees, the leagues, F.A.'s all the way up to F.I.F.A. Should keep us going for a lifetime or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 mrlaw18, there are no circumstances when it is OK to tell the referee to **** off, end of story really, but if that is how you wish to officate then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 all I am saying just because the words are said does not automatically mean a red card is shown. us referees do make mistakes and in frustration players tell us to **** off and you send them off? If that's how you want to officiate then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 mrlaw18, I can and do understand players frustration, but if it`s said directly to me it results in a red card and yes we do make mistakes but provided it`s an honest mistake then no problem and should be no recrimination and should not give a player the excuse to use foul/abusive/offensive language to the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 As a lawyer I interpret laws all the time. One way of doing this is to apply the letter of the law. This demonstrates certainty of the law and shows respect to the law maker. In most situation this works but sometimes it leads to absurdity. When this occurs you then have to extend you reasoning to why it is law. I don't think the law makers of LOAF wanted players to be sent off every time a player said something offensive but for the referee to use their common sense to decide when and when it is not a red card situation. I'm sorry but if it is said out of frustration, because the mind is not thinking straight, then I am not going straight for my red card but instead managing the situation. It is then up to the player to listen or not. Situations may look the same but the circumstances leading up them makes them different and that is why consistency seems not to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 wow i am so impressed, perhaps all those years ago I was the wrong person to take up the whistle, all I ever have done is apply the LOAF as per all the coaching and assessors who have taught me. who by your post do not seem to have given me the correct teachings, blast all those years wasted. By the way I stopped (through age) just short of officiating at football league level, so on reflection perhaps I was officiating correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 No lawyers in England, they're solicitors, we are not annexed to America yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sidibe Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Solicitors/Barristers = Lawyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_Ellis Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Any real solicitor in England would call themself that and not a "lawyer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Solicitors/Barristers = Lawyers Not so, that language is best left in the colonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 As an anarchist who read Jurisprudence at Lincoln College, Oxford, the subject referred to in Marlowe's Dr Faustus as suited to "a mercenary drudge" who thinks of nothing but "external trash", I recognise lawmakers for their self-afflatus as they design systems that ensure the world's resources stay in the hands of the same self-interested crooks. Football provides a microcosm of the same nightmare. The concentration on minor breaches of linguistic etiquette reflects, in most cases, a ridiculous diversion from the real problems of the game. The best referees get off their high horse, recognise that spectators have come to watch the other 22 men, women or Magpies accompanying them on the park and, in the best games, are subtly visible occasionally. Unfortunately too many of them are tiny, self-created mannikins who, quite unjustifiably, adore their creator. Especially in Cornwall, where there has not been much to do in the winter, since the Civil War, but drink and procreate, one or two see Saturday afternoons with the whistle as compensation for their sexual and socio-political shortcomings. Where else can one idiot with a Napoleon complex cause so much human misery merely because he feels like it ? What is this, Shades of Grey ? And the FA parasites are rubbing their hands. Every card is cash in the bank. Hotel freebies in Jersey or Qatar with their wife every time we shout F*** Off ! Simples ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Abbo Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Solicitors/Barristers = Lawyers Well how boring is this.... Trust sidibe to be involved. Bore off recedos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It needn't be boring. The ruling class invent bureaucracies that make politics as boring as possible so only those who have a long concentration span participate. When you've gone to sleep, they take decisions over your head you would never have wanted. Don't follow leaders. They always lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko14 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Completely agree with MrLaw. A referee should be able to recognise when a player is merely speaking out of frustration/without intention. Knowlesy refereed our game on Saturday and made the game flow ten times more than most do, in terrible conditions I might add, just by speaking to players and allowing players to speak to him. Best refereeing performance i've seen for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Im a solicitor by the way. By the way a 'lawyer' is someone who works in the field of law and does not necessarily mean solicitor or barrister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Im a solicitor by the way. By the way a 'lawyer' is someone who works in the field of law and does not necessarily mean solicitor or barrister. at your rates you should be doing some work then!!!!! get off the comp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Man Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 just wondering if anyone could clear up for me the ruling for using spin on a long throw-in? i was at the perranwell vs st ives game at the weekend, where a perranwell player was able to launch the ball into the st ives box and put a lot of pressure on their keeper (and eventually scoring.) The st ives players and management were complaining to the referee about the use of spin on the ball. I've tried to research the rules but have found nothing to suggest that it would be illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 D-Man, there is nothing in the LOAF which refer`s to the ball spinning, It states the ball shall be thrown in with both hands and delivered from behind the head, in fact the ball will always spin to some degree due to the airflow over it`s surface, It sounds like people were trying to make Laws` up as they went along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marazion2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have seen a few referees give a foul throw for 'spinning' the ball. It is done by one hand being forward of the centre of the ball and one behind the centre. Depending which hand is forward means which way the ball spins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kempy Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have seen a few referees give a foul throw for 'spinning' the ball. It is done by one hand being forward of the centre of the ball and one behind the centre. Depending which hand is forward means which way the ball spins. If the ball spins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 i think mrlaw is infact a solicitor, afterall he defends a player that swears directly at a referee,which is infact punished by a red card. And in his line of work he defends the likes of a burglar who enters our private property steals what he likes, and when aprehended asks for 450 other cases to be taken into consideration and mrlaw says thats ok have a 100 hours comunity service. Is he really the right type of person for either of these jobs? In my opinion the first gets a red card, and the second gets 10years making both partys realize that it is time to resect other people and their belongings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Like I said, and its just my opinion, that we should be reasonable about this and take everything into consideration and think before showing the cards. As for my job I apply the law I don't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagerags Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If one hand is in front and one behind the centre of the ball it has to spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Sorry mrlaw18, I could not resist this comment so please forgive me, I thought it was Judges and Magistrates who apply the Law and it`s Solicitor`s who try to find ways around a Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlaw18 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 haha no worries Mr manning I'm use to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Mr Law, where is it you do your soliciting ? Are you getting much business in this awful weather ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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