best Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Why do certain clubs bring ringers in for midweek games? Surely this is out of order and not fair? Look forward to your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Bray Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Sadly most abide by the rules, and plain and simply want to win games. As long as they follow the rules set by the league with regards to reinstatement etc. what can you say? It's when clubs play players under wrong names that is wrong. One thing I would like to see change though is players playing for more than one club at the same time in the season. Players going to play for other clubs when their own reserves might have needed them - never liked that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo5 Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Especially things like FA Cup comps etc.. If a club does well for the few qualifying rounds then gets found out that a player they played has already played for another side they'd be disqualified. How would a chairman and board feel if that ever happened so I agree the rule should be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Please clarify a ringer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Managers who call in players from a higher league to try and win matches!! can name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Please clarify a ringer ? one who misrepresents his or her identity or ability in order to gain an advantage in a competition or any athlete entered in a team competition under false pretenses in order to gain a competitive advantage by strengthening the team MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Managers who call in players from a higher league to try and win matches!! can name a few Go on then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm not gonna say names and start upsetting people, I know 3 clubs do. And all Devon clubs. Just don't see the point and think it's unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo5 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 When you say all Devon Clubs would you like to print who from Bovey Tracey has been called in to help? I do the media and communications and know exactly everyone that plays for our club and I can confirm that no ringers play for us. I know from seeing the names from clubs we have played that a few have been called in from higher clubs for example, Tiverton Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm not gonna say names and start upsetting people, I know 3 clubs do. And all Devon clubs. Just don't see the point and think it's unfair Why is it unfair ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm not gonna say names and start upsetting people, I know 3 clubs do. And all Devon clubs. Just don't see the point and think it's unfair Why is it unfair ? Beaker, lets say you normally play for the first team, hard to believe that I know, but, it's an example your after...... You get dropped to the bench for a player from a higher league who's team are not playing that day...... You still think it unfair?? Best.... And NO Cornish clubs have ever done it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm not gonna say names and start upsetting people, I know 3 clubs do. And all Devon clubs. Just don't see the point and think it's unfair Why is it unfair ? Beaker, lets say you normally play for the first team, hard to believe that I know, but, it's an example your after...... You get dropped to the bench for a player from a higher league who's team are not playing that day...... You still think it unfair?? Best.... And NO Cornish clubs have ever done it?? Why would it be unbelievable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm not gonna say names and start upsetting people, I know 3 clubs do. And all Devon clubs. Just don't see the point and think it's unfair Why is it unfair ? Beaker, lets say you normally play for the first team, hard to believe that I know, but, it's an example your after...... You get dropped to the bench for a player from a higher league who's team are not playing that day...... You still think it unfair?? Best.... And NO Cornish clubs have ever done it?? Why would it be unbelievable? Why is what unbelievable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Playing for a first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOALS12 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Parkway are favourite for bringing ringers in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo5 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 You say that all Devon clubs do it? Again can I remind you of my role af Bovey, which includes taking team sheets from both clubs and taking note that tonights game Bovey using and bringing in NO ringers. Witheridge had Khaled Badavi on the bench tonight who came on, apparantly registered as a Taunton Town player in a higher league. Not complaining as Bovey won the game but had they lost, questions would be asked of future uses of these players in our Leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Playing for a first teamPlaying for a first team So, if you were that first team player that got dropped to the bench for someone who plays in a higher league, you would be happy and still think it was fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehorse Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 To boveytracey1 It sounds to me like your saying its only a problem if it works against you? "Had they lost, questions would be asked" It's either ok, or not ok.....it can't change depending on how it affects your club! Personally, I don't have an issue with it, if the player has signed a form for the club he is playing with then he's fine to play, whether that is on a regular basis or just when he is available. Many clubs at step 4 and above don't operate reserve teams and can have an informal arrangement with local clubs that can allow their players game time when they don't have a game or have been injured, it's essentially a player going out on loan. This is even more of an issue in other areas of the country as there are a higher number of step 4 and above clubs. For me, it's only an issue if the player is playing under an assumed name. If they are correctly named on the team sheet and registered to play then there is no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Sorry I meant to say I know ONLY 3 Devon clubs who bring ringers in. They bring players in from the league above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savo Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I agree with thehorse, if the player is signed up correctly and named correctly on the team sheet then there is no problem, having just come from Dorset and played in the easy midlands this arrangement is fairly common, to allow players game time following injury or a prolonged spell on the bench. People may deem it unfair but it is part and parcel of non league football, and as long as the rules aren't broken then what's the problem. As for players being dropped for a player from a higher league, well that is a club/manager team management problem and how best the use and keep their players happy, not a league or FA problem unless rules and regs have been broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Surely a Ringer is an illegal player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo5 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 No i agree with both of you that if a player from another league is allowed to sign for another league team and the name appears right on the form then no questions asked. It's just most Managers argue that it's unfair at the end of a game if their team had lost when the player from the other League wins the game for that team and doesn't play again for the season, only specifically for that game. Can we not make this a poll for forum users to agree Yes or No. Should players from another League be allowed to sign for another side in another League or should he play for a certain amount of games for the other side before he can play in the Peninsula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I've played 30 games this season, on Saturday I get dropped for a Tiverton town player because my manager wants to win the match! Your telling me that's ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I've played 30 games this season, on Saturday I get dropped for a Tiverton town player because my manager wants to win the match! Your telling me that's ok? Did your side win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can't keep up?! Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Introduce a limit to the number of 1st team players that can drop to the 2nd team, say 3?! Its difficult for teams playing in ECPL / Combo (which are not reserve teams) to progress when at the end of the season they play a reserve team with say half the 1st team squad playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo5 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I think its ok if first team players play for reserves because if you have a squad of say 18 and only 3 subs can be used then 4 aren't playing at all so could be used to get match fitness and game time. But drafting in someone from another side is ridiculous especially if he is or isn't being paid for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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